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poiter

Posts: 577

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

Does this go on top of a strobe stand? I looked at the photos and it seems like you would attach it to a strobe stand.

http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-Phot … s=boom+arm

Feb 02 16 08:42 am Link

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NewBoldPhoto

Posts: 5216

PORT MURRAY, New Jersey, US

poiter wrote:
Does this go on top of a strobe stand? I looked at the photos and it seems like you would attach it to a strobe stand.

http://www.amazon.com/CowboyStudio-Phot … s=boom+arm

Yes, it mounts on a light stand. I would recommend a c-stand and some sandbags.

Feb 02 16 08:50 am Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8095

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I hope you aren't mounting anything important on that thing. The build quality of that is extremely low.

Feb 02 16 09:20 am Link

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tcphoto

Posts: 1031

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Yes, it's illustrated in the third image. No, I would not mount anything you value on it. Buy cheap and you'll have to buy something better the next time. There are people that buy cheap and simply replace it when it breaks and it adds up to the price of the quality version. Then there are those that make the investment and they don't have to worry about if/when it might break.

Feb 02 16 09:30 am Link

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David M Russell

Posts: 1301

New York, New York, US

Feb 02 16 09:47 am Link

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Shades Of Brown

Posts: 187

Glenn Dale, Maryland, US

David M Russell wrote:
Better:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3 … m_Arm.html

I have that one.. It is better... But just dont drop it...

Feb 02 16 10:30 am Link

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David M Russell

Posts: 1301

New York, New York, US

Shades Of Brown wrote:
I have that one.. It is better... But just dont drop it...

It costs a lot more to get one that you're comfortable beating on.

Feb 02 16 10:34 am Link

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poiter

Posts: 577

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

I was thinking of just mounting a speedlight on it, so nothing heavy smile

Feb 02 16 11:26 am Link

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David M Russell

Posts: 1301

New York, New York, US

poiter wrote:
I was thinking of just mounting a speedlight on it, so nothing heavy smile

I used a Bogen Mini Boom for that for a long time. I would have recommended that, but ultimately I wasn't happy with the clamp that comes with it. Impact stuff is usually a very good value, and that clamp looks better than what comes with the Bogen.

Believe me when I tell you, you'll want/need something longer and more robust than what you think you need.

-D

Feb 02 16 12:05 pm Link

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DanninTO

Posts: 106

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Kind of pricey but I trust it with all my lights and modifiers.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1 … embly.html

Feb 02 16 12:16 pm Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8095

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

poiter wrote:
I was thinking of just mounting a speedlight on it, so nothing heavy smile

The problem is that the clamp system that is used on the boom you're looking at is not only a very poor design, but made of extremely low quality materials. Even if you're just putting a speedlight on it, it probably won't last past three shoots. For just a bit more money you can get better quality items that will last you for years and will be a lot more reliable. There are some cool items that come from Cowboy Studios, but that's not one of them.

Also, as was previously mentioned, make sure you have that mounted on to either a C-Stand or a VERY strong light stand with a wide base.

This is the boom I've been using for about two years now and it works great. I use it for product shots, for a rimlight for headshots, and tons of other uses and it has held up great. It's more money than you're looking to spend (150 bucks) but it's well worth the money and it doesn't require a separate stand:

http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-420NSB- … rotto+boom

Feb 02 16 12:38 pm Link

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Tim Foster

Posts: 1816

Orlando, Florida, US

Yes. I wouldn't put more than a pound or two on it, though. If you really want to fly a light over your talent than something like this on a combo or C-Stand will be much safer and pleasurable to use:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control … ;A=details

Feb 02 16 12:47 pm Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

I have a love - hate relationship with booms.

I love that you can point a light downward -- you can produce some nice lighting with a boom.

I hate the kind of boom arm you've chosen -- I hate all the boom arms that mount to the top of a light stand.  Here's why:
...  They are top heavy.
...  They are challenging to balance.
...  They are easy to tip over.
...  The light stand takes up a lot of floor space.
...  The light stand usually gets in the way.

If you have the wherewithal, I might recommend a wall mounted boom arm, like this one.  They are surprisingly versatile, they take up no floor space at all, and they are very stable & secure.  Here's an 18+ image using a light on a wall mounted boom arm (and a softbox) as the primary light.

Feb 02 16 01:06 pm Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8095

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
If you have the wherewithal, I might recommend a wall mounted boom arm, like this one.  They are surprisingly versatile, they take up no floor space at all, and they are very stable & secure.  Here's an 18+ image using a light on a wall mounted boom arm (and a softbox) as the primary light.

It also has an EXTREMELY limited use.

It's not portable
It's not adjustable for height
It's not adjustable easily for angle

Sure, if you have a studio and only have one purpose for that, then it's fine, but with that setup, it's a one trick pony.

Feb 02 16 03:06 pm Link

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Tim Foster

Posts: 1816

Orlando, Florida, US

Shot By Adam wrote:

It also has an EXTREMELY limited use.

It's not portable
It's not adjustable for height
It's not adjustable easily for angle

Sure, if you have a studio and only have one purpose for that, then it's fine, but with that setup, it's a one trick pony.

Not entirely true:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5 … Black.html

Feb 02 16 03:53 pm Link

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JONATHAN RICHARD

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New York, New York, US

Feb 02 16 04:55 pm Link

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Zack Zoll

Posts: 6895

Glens Falls, New York, US

A good rule of thumb with a boom stand is that the arm needs to support 3-5 times the amount of weight you'll actually use with it - sometimes even more.

Let's say you have 3 pounds, flash and modifier. That's pretty realistic, if conservative. With the arm extended all the way, you have much more than three pounds of force pulling that arm down. More importantly, that force is all way off center axis, so unless you have a stand that is sturdy enough for an awful lot of sandbagging, you'll need a counterweight.

Next thing you know, your three pound light is exerting 10-15 pounds of force on your boom arm.

Realistically, than means that a boom rated for 6-7 pounds will only support a speedlite at full extension if you're using an extremely lightweight modifier, such as a Lumiquest box. Even then, you may only get a few months out of it before it starts to sag.

Feb 02 16 05:31 pm Link

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David M Russell

Posts: 1301

New York, New York, US

JONATHAN RICHARD wrote:
Best:  in the mini booms
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3 … m_3_8.html


https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/1232871360000_3599.jpg

A mainstay of my location kit.

Feb 02 16 05:48 pm Link

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JGC Photography

Posts: 301

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

I have this one on a Cstand.
Works great!
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3 … _Boom.html

Feb 08 16 02:00 am Link