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Amanda Jackson Photo

Posts: 619

Portland, Oregon, US

Is it possible to use a beauty dish with a speedlight properly?  The problem I'm having is that the adapter that attaches to the speedring on the dish does not allow the speedlight to get close enough to allow the light to diffuse properly.  It spills out the side and also casts a shadow of the dish onto my subject.  Is this just a poorly functioning adapter or is this common? 
I can still use the dish properly with my strobe, but I'm looking for something more portable and I was hoping this could work out.

Sep 24 16 10:13 pm Link

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Randy Poe

Posts: 1638

Green Cove Springs, Florida, US

I dont know what mount your dish is but I have used these a bunch and I love the s type mounts way better than the hot shoe type mounts that are always falling apart and never adjust easy. These not only hold tighter they free up the bottom of your speedlight to face a direction that makes them easier to adjust if needed or perhaps see and infrared trigger if that's your thing. They are also good for gels or brolly's or just using on a stand. I haven't broken one yet.

https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Bracket-S … wens+Mount

It might be that your dish isn't a Bownens.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M6 … &psc=1

Sep 25 16 12:13 am Link

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TheScarletLetterSeries

Posts: 3533

Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, US

Speedlites really are not effective with beauty dishes (not meant to be!). Bare bulb (studio light) is best for distribution/light spread in a beauty dish.  Add a Stofen Omnibounce to your Speedlite to mimic bare bulb in the dish.

Sep 25 16 08:42 am Link

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Mark Salo

Posts: 11723

Olney, Maryland, US

I use this with the front difuser and the grid:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N … av-Search=

I don't remember if I have the 20' or 30'.  I use the The Bruce Dorn Magic Slipper to mount my speedlight:
https://mpex.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=magic+slipper

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120824/13/5037ddedef0ef_m.jpg

Sep 25 16 09:00 am Link

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Stay Young Photography

Posts: 724

Cocoa, Florida, US

I've used a Beauty dish with a speedlight and it has worked pretty well for me. I don't have any examples in my port but will soon.

This Beauty Dish:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0048 … &psc=1

This Bracket:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019Q … &psc=1

This Flash:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PG … &psc=1

Sep 26 16 09:16 am Link

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goofus

Posts: 808

Santa Barbara, California, US

when did 'flashes' start being called 'speedlights' ?

wasn't 'speedlight' a nikon name for their brand flashes?

Sep 28 16 12:04 pm Link

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FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 6597

Uniontown, Pennsylvania, US

Sep 28 16 12:14 pm Link

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HV images

Posts: 634

Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom

goofus  wrote:
when did 'flashes' start being called 'speedlights' ?

wasn't 'speedlight' a nikon name for their brand flashes?

Interesting take, I just assumed the OP was a Nikon user!

I use Nikon, I use the term speedlight to refer to my flashes. Canon uses the term speedlite to refer to their flashes, it would be quite normal for people to use the terminology/branding used by their equipment manufacturers IMO.

To the OP, use an omni-bounce type diffuser on the end of the flash.

Sep 28 16 01:36 pm Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

goofus  wrote:
when did 'flashes' start being called 'speedlights' ?

wasn't 'speedlight' a nikon name for their brand flashes?

I've heard some people call strobes "flashes".  ¯(ツ)/¯

Sep 28 16 02:35 pm Link

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LightDreams

Posts: 4430

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

goofus  wrote:
when did 'flashes' start being called 'speedlights' ?

Google's default definition for the term "speedlight":

"The term on-camera flash, or speedlight, simply refers to a type of strobe light (flash) that can connect directly to your camera. While it is generally referred to as “on-camera,” this does not require the flash to be physically mounted on your camera. On-camera flashes can, and often are, used off-camera."

Sort of like what happened to the terms "aspirin" and "xerox", etc, which were originally specific brand names.

Plus the ability to mount it in a hotshoe (if desired) that they alluded to, is a reasonably useful guideline for separating "speedlights" and "studio strobes".  Certainly better than some earlier / rather dated definitions that based it on whether it plugged into the wall or not (Profoto speedlight anyone?!!).  I'd also note that Google's default definition of a "flash", based on the concept of a "brief burst of light", encompasses both speedlights and studio strobes.

I'm not going to swear up and down that Google's absolutely right, but it's as useful a breakdown as any I've seen.

Sep 28 16 04:52 pm Link

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JHLePhotography

Posts: 57

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Utilizing a Speedlight with a Beauty Dish can be effective, however you would need to place the Modifier very close to your subject for optimal results along with using a wide aperture to compensate for lack of Strobe power.

Oct 03 16 07:51 am Link

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SOP photo

Posts: 31

Hannibal, Missouri, US

If you can find one Lumopro makes a 22 inch dish and a two speedlight adaptor.

http://flashhavoc.com/lumopro-mulit-mou … h-bracket/

Oct 04 16 01:41 pm Link