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Photographer

PhotoACR

Posts: 352

Los Angeles, California, US

Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote:

L o n d o n   F o g wrote:
I do not allow boyfriends/hubbies/brothers/fathers etc....
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Now, we're different on that, I say, as long as they strip it off and get in the frame, it's all good.

Just no clothed males performing some sort of parasitic resource guarding.



BTW - have you ever tried answering "okay, couples shoots work" when you get one of these "escort" requests? It's fun, and often flushes out the attitudes about women that underpin the "manly protector" routines.

I just look at a photo session as a collaboration effort and not a social event, so, only people involved with the shoot should be present.

Dec 23 16 05:58 pm Link

Photographer

MarkGerrardPhotography

Posts: 209

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

I've done plenty shoots with escorts present.  Only once has it been a problem and I think it was more the model who was the problem.

Did a shoot last week, the model asked beforehand if it was OK to bring someone since we hadn't worked together before.   Who am I to say no?
He was in view most of the time but didn't interfere and helped the model with outfit changes because her hands were so cold they wouldn't work.  It was 28 degrees at the time!

Dec 25 16 10:38 pm Link

Photographer

Shot By Adam

Posts: 8093

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

MarkGerrardPhotography wrote:
I've done plenty shoots with escorts present.  Only once has it been a problem and I think it was more the model who was the problem.

100% of the people who have a zero tolerance policy against escorts once shared this same philosophy as you do. Give it time, soon you'll wise up to why you shouldn't as well. Unfortunately, that lesson is usually a very expensive one and often times, it takes more than one of them before you change your policy.

Did a shoot last week, the model asked beforehand if it was OK to bring someone since we hadn't worked together before.   Who am I to say no?

Oh, I dunno, the responsible person in charge?

Dec 25 16 11:35 pm Link

Photographer

Justin

Posts: 22389

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

L o n d o n   F o g wrote:
As mentioned, I have my own reasons, but I want to hear yours? Be thruthful?

I don't shoot as well when someone's watching me.

Dec 26 16 07:06 am Link

Photographer

Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

The only TRUTH is that there is no right or wrong answer.  Everyone is different.  We all have our own comfort levels.  Not every person a model might ask to bring is a bad person.   Likewise for the models, not every photographer who says "no" to escorts (guests) is doing so for inappropriate reasons. 

Communication is how this all works!

Dec 26 16 11:48 am Link

Photographer

DeanLautermilch

Posts: 321

Sebring, Florida, US

I've always had a good time with the escorts and found them to be very helpful. But that is because I do newbies who are always nervous and need someone there for them. I know I am one of the few that wants an escort.

And I give the models all images taken. Since i am not doing it for money I don't care.

http://lautermilchmodels.com/about/

Dec 29 16 05:13 pm Link

Photographer

Nathan Guadalupe

Posts: 319

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

L o n d o n   F o g wrote:
...behind why they are not welcome on shoots!

I know this has been discussed to death, and I have my own reasons why I will not permit escorts on my shoots, but I wanted to find out what others have to say - as in the real reasons why you won't allow an escort/chaperone. I'm especially curious to know why boyfriend's/SO/hubby's etc are made to feel about as welcome as a turd in a swimming pool!

As mentioned, I have my own reasons, but I want to hear yours? Be thruthful?

Let's go...

Aside from an escort behaving like the elephant in the room, I find that a model insisting on bringing one to a shoot signifies a lack of trust. I say vet who you want to work with, but to each their own.

Dec 29 16 08:56 pm Link

Photographer

PhotoACR

Posts: 352

Los Angeles, California, US

I have never had a working model age 18 and over accept a booking request to bring an escort.

Dec 29 16 09:41 pm Link

Model

Liv Sage

Posts: 431

Seattle, Washington, US

I don't shoot a lot, but I once photographed a model who brought her boyfriend with her unannounced to a shoot. To shoot with me. I am a tiny lady of 5'0" and all of 90 pounds. He turned out to be completely alright, but we were in a public place - if she'd shown up to my home with him, I probably would have been very irritated.

I would never bring a boyfriend or male partner of any sort to a shoot because, honestly, he'd probably get on my nerves. I once had a photographer request that I bring a male friend to help with lights and carrying equipment, and it was just a strange shoot. Suggestions that weren't needed or helpful, constant staring and making me uncomfortable...he did carry things though.

As a photographer, I don't want male escorts because then I feel very outnumbered. Not to mention, they usually seem to make the women nervous or they are a distraction.
As a model, I don't bring a male escort because they're distracting and it's not necessary. And, it's not particularly professional. If an escort is absolutely necessary for some reason, I could always bring a female friend and provide references for her to the photographer. Usually I've only ever had an "escort" (more like friend I'm giving gas money to drive me) when they're driving me to a shoot and back - and then they don't sit in on the shoot.

Jan 02 17 10:01 pm Link

Artist/Painter

Two Pears Studio

Posts: 3632

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I have had four women bring escorts with them, three of them caused problems of varying degrees and the fourth left after a short while and was great.

I have no issues with someone bringing an escort, so long as they have something to do and are careful with my studio.

Any hesitancy I have is based on my crazy experiences with problem escorts.

Jan 04 17 07:29 pm Link

Photographer

Analogpics

Posts: 9

Durham, North Carolina, US

never had an issue with an escort, so I'd only ban one I previously knew to be a pain in the ass.

Jan 04 17 08:15 pm Link