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Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

For photographers.

The premise is that you either triggered the shutter at the exact split second to make a compelling image or you did not.
In the end, all the preparation is for exactly and entirely that instant.

Be forewarned going in, this a Yes or No answer. Your image either moves me or it doesn't.
I may make a comment if I think you posted a great shot or if I see something that would help you improve. I will be moving right along so perhaps I will reply to your reply if you choose to make one and perhaps I won't.

I'll take the first 15 posters, one image each. Choose your best!

Dec 30 18 12:43 pm Link

Photographer

FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 6597

Uniontown, Pennsylvania, US

I'm game.

Shot during Skeeter season...

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/180626/15/5b32c2df23c42.jpg

I forget the exact settings but with the old 50D through an 85mm f/1.8,  bounced Speedlite Camera left.

Model:  Marlyn

Marlyn had experience Modeling and was quite animated,  something I'm not used to, a pleasant surprise.

Yes, I had a broom,  it was in the Car.

Dec 30 18 02:56 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Dec 30 18 03:03 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
I'm game.

Shot during Skeeter season...

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/180626/15/5b32c2df23c42.jpg

I forget the exact settings but with the old 50D through an 85mm f/1.8,  bounced Speedlite Camera left.

Model:  Marlyn

Marlyn had experience Modeling and was quite animated,  something I'm not used to, a pleasant surprise.

Yes, I had a broom,  it was in the Car.

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Yes, you captured an honest and lovely moment of your model's presence.
Your broom comment tells me you are capable of objective critique of your own work and intent on improving so I'll say no more.
Cheers!

Dec 30 18 03:51 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Here's one  . . .  18+

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/27886275

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Yes! She is giving a great expression to the camera. Those moments can be fleeting, well done.
I find the speculars directly between her ankles to be distracting, if they were gone this image would be most excellent.

Dec 30 18 03:54 pm Link

Photographer

Photo Art by LJ

Posts: 224

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

I felt like 'that moment' hit here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cIAGCA … OAL4I/view

(and actually lots of times in the shoot with this model)

Dec 30 18 10:02 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

LONDON Photo Art wrote:
I felt like 'that moment' hit here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cIAGCA … OAL4I/view

(and actually lots of times in the shoot with this model)

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Yes. A unique shot for a couple of reasons. One, your model appears to be just slightly wall-eyed in this image. It is barely enough to notice, which makes it intriguing and makes her beauty unique. With the outfit she is wearing and her arm positions, she has a bit of an "alien" look (in the outer space sense), adding another bit of exotic flavor. This is right on the edge, the above mentioned could have gone against the image but they work out nicely, well done.

Dec 30 18 11:08 pm Link

Photographer

TDSImages

Posts: 1018

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

This?

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/181115/07/5bed8faf1577e.jpg

Dec 31 18 06:36 am Link

Photographer

Jorge Kreimer

Posts: 3716

San Cristóbal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31632466 18+

A split second earlier or later, and it would have been a different thing.

Dec 31 18 08:06 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

TDSImages wrote:
This?

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/181115/07/5bed8faf1577e.jpg

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Yes. That hair is not going to defy gravity for long!

Dec 31 18 09:04 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Jorge Kreimer wrote:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31632466 18+

A split second earlier or later, and it would have been a different thing.

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Yes. The over-exposed face works in this context but please clean up those stray nose hairs!!! They really pop out at me since they are pure white over a dark gray nostril area. I am not sure if blowing out the frames of the glasses is an improvement or not so I'll let that pass. Cheers!

Dec 31 18 09:15 am Link

Photographer

Garry k

Posts: 30130

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Here's one  . . .  18+

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/27886275

I was going to play

until I saw this

Damn smile

Dec 31 18 11:22 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Garry k wrote:

I was going to play

until I saw this

Damn smile

Jump in anyway, few can match KM's ability, track record, creativity, etc.
We are lucky to have him here with us on MM, it was an honor to be able to critique his work.
Don't be shy, I am keeping it real but specific. There is that one instant and "snap". Did you get it?

Dec 31 18 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

sospix

Posts: 23778

Orlando, Florida, US

How'd I do on this one  .  .  .

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140325/09/5331a9f17c164.jpg

.  .  .  sometimes the wind by the ocean can be a bit tricky  .  .  .

SOS

Jan 03 19 08:24 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

sospix wrote:
How'd I do on this one  .  .  .

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140325/09/5331a9f17c164.jpg

.  .  .  sometimes the wind by the ocean can be a bit tricky  .  .  .

SOS

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Yes, you got it. We get gusty breezes up here too. Timing the wind is totally legit if we want the blown hair look, you'd need a hell of a fan in the context of your crop!!!! I'm guessing this is a commercial shot and text goes in the sky block on the right?

I have to admit, at first I thought she was holding a large walking stick of some sort. Too late now but angling the surfboard would have made it an instant recognition prop. Cheers!

Jan 03 19 09:15 am Link

Photographer

Jarrett Porst

Posts: 131

Los Angeles, California, US

Time doesn't exist, because she's frozen,,,,

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/42762871

Jan 03 19 10:47 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Jarrett Porst wrote:
Time doesn't exist, because she's frozen,,,,

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/42762871

7
Yes!!! Very nice indeed and shot with a DSLR so you have to get the timing down and "pre-shoot" for peak action. That pesky mirror flipping up and such.
Well done.

Jan 03 19 11:04 am Link

Photographer

sospix

Posts: 23778

Orlando, Florida, US

Shadow Dancer wrote:

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Yes, you got it. We get gusty breezes up here too. Timing the wind is totally legit if we want the blown hair look, you'd need a hell of a fan in the context of your crop!!!! I'm guessing this is a commercial shot and text goes in the sky block on the right?

I have to admit, at first I thought she was holding a large walking stick of some sort. Too late now but angling the surfboard would have made it an instant recognition prop. Cheers!

Thanks for the look Mr. SD  .  .  .  I usually shoot in 3's (probably a holdover from shooting film back in the Stone Age), it's always interesting to see the subtle changes in each image when it comes to wind blown hair, there's almost always a clear "best choice"  .  .  .  nice catch, it is indeed a commercial image, hence the air on the right of the frame to hold the brand logo and required copy  .  .  .  really try to minimize the surfboards in most cases, the brand this is for doesn't really promote surfboards (although they're now moving into that market as well, so that will most likely change), more apparel oriented  .  .  .  thanks again for the look and the critique, much continued success!

SOS

Jan 03 19 04:51 pm Link

Photographer

Risen Phoenix Photo

Posts: 3779

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Please check out this one. Definitely split second.

+18 image

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/37123063

Jan 03 19 04:56 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
Please check out this one. Definitely split second.

+18 image

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/37123063

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Yes, you've captured what I call "peak action".  Lovely model, beautiful lighting and an excellent form/jump.
The devil is in the details. Depending on what is possible and/or available one might either back up a bit or use a slightly wider lens or setting on a zoom lens.  That could have kept the right toe from reaching the edge of the frame. I learned the hard way to leave more space back in my film days.

In addition to that, the image could also be improved with just a bit of clean up. There is a white spot just above the right foot and several white spots on the floor that could be easily removed. As a matter of personal taste I would also want to burn down the bright top edge of the molding where the wall meets the floor.

Overall, very well done but you can improve what you have now and avoid the tight in camera crop in the future.

Jan 03 19 05:39 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/180529/18/5b0e0570a57ca.jpg

I'll give it a go Michael smile

Jan 03 19 07:08 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Rik Williams wrote:
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/180529/18/5b0e0570a57ca.jpg

I'll give it a go Michael smile

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Yes, you got the shot. In my opinion, I would like to see the lighter areas below the model's face burned down a bit, they attract attention but are not the focus of the shot. Compositionally, they should remain. The lighting is beautiful and the model's expression is good.

That said, I am a bit conflicted, I like the image but I don't see it as fundamentally "timing critical" since you aren't capturing a fleeting moment in the same sense as catching the peak of a jump or wind blowing, etc. It seems to me that you could make several exposures and choose the best and while that is true of some of the other images I've critiqued above that is my impression of this particular image.

I could be wrong, please feel free to correct me if the actual capture was more difficult than it seems. The image below was shot during a live performance of the Nutcracker, it was "get it or forget it." There was no possibility of a redo. It took some time and practice to get the nuances of firing just before peak action so I could capture a shot like this.

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/180909/21/5b95ef47e9586_m.jpg

Jan 04 19 11:13 am Link

Photographer

Fashion Figure Fantasy

Posts: 158

Lexington, Kentucky, US

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091027/12/4ae74fe57e098_m.jpg



see what you think...

Jan 04 19 01:45 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Fashion Figure Fantasy wrote:
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091027/12/4ae74fe57e098_m.jpg



see what you think...

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Yes, a nice jump. Action frozen in a split second.
I'm not a fan of logos that dominate one's attention though.

Jan 04 19 03:29 pm Link

Photographer

Fashion Figure Fantasy

Posts: 158

Lexington, Kentucky, US

thanks!
we had soooooooo much fun running around town that day.

Jan 04 19 08:51 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

5 critiques left, then I will call it good.
Has been fun so far!!

Jan 04 19 09:48 pm Link

Photographer

Rik Williams

Posts: 4005

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Shadow Dancer wrote:

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Yes, you got the shot. In my opinion, I would like to see the lighter areas below the model's face burned down a bit, they attract attention but are not the focus of the shot. Compositionally, they should remain. The lighting is beautiful and the model's expression is good.

That said, I am a bit conflicted, I like the image but I don't see it as fundamentally "timing critical" since you aren't capturing a fleeting moment in the same sense as catching the peak of a jump or wind blowing, etc. It seems to me that you could make several exposures and choose the best and while that is true of some of the other images I've critiqued above that is my impression of this particular image.

I could be wrong, please feel free to correct me if the actual capture was more difficult than it seems. The image below was shot during a live performance of the Nutcracker, it was "get it or forget it." There was no possibility of a redo. It took some time and practice to get the nuances of firing just before peak action so I could capture a shot like this.

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/180909/21/5b95ef47e9586_m.jpg

Absolutely Michael, I see where you're coming from, thats a great shot of a dancer at the height of action.
I guess the timing of my own was more about an a connect between the subject and viewer on a slightly more intimate level. I had hoped to catch the model in a moment emotionally rather than an act in itself, perhaps I missed it.
Cheers mate.

Jan 07 19 09:25 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Rik Williams wrote:

Absolutely Michael, I see where you're coming from, thats a great shot of a dancer at the height of action.
I guess the timing of my own was more about an a connect between the subject and viewer on a slightly more intimate level. I had hoped to catch the model in a moment emotionally rather than an act in itself, perhaps I missed it.
Cheers mate.

No, I think you got it. I like the image. I just wonder if it was split second timing or multiple exposures and then choose the best? Certainly I've done that, we all have. Keep up the great work!

Jan 07 19 05:22 pm Link

Photographer

dangiophotog

Posts: 1

Charlottesville, Virginia, US

Jan 11 19 09:46 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

dangiophotog wrote:
Thoughts?

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/44200131

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/180602/10/5b12d28665711_m.jpg

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Yes, you got the shot. My thoughts on the capture are similar to the ones I shared with Rik above. This would be a relatively easy shot to keep shooting until you have the image you want. That is not a bad thing, it does work. I have done it many times myself, even back in the film days although you really never knew if you nailed it or not until the film was developed.

As to the image itself, compositionally you've created an bright arrow pointing right up to the bottom edge and almost exactly in the center of that same edge. This is the first thing I saw and it draws my eye away from your intended subject. A higher neckline on the garment would fix this and you could even shoot this with the model's back turned towards the viewer with good effect. As it stands, it is not working for me. Try again, you can totally nail this!
Cheers!

Jan 11 19 11:55 pm Link

Photographer

Ironeye

Posts: 7

Norwich, England, United Kingdom

Jan 13 19 03:34 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Ironeye wrote:
I'll give it a go

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/44929370

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/181220/00/5c1b57047171d_m.jpg

12

No. While you captured an image, I don't see where it fits with the theme of the OP. This is a static pose and not a difficult or uncomfortable one like Ken Marcus showed above.
Also, take a closer look at the details, there are small white spots here and there, most noticeable being the one on the outer rim of the left nostril. The blown out highlight on the lower lip and the bright eyelashes distract from the model's connection with the camera. While I like that shadows prevent us from viewing the model's sinuses, they are also inhibiting the expression of the eyes.

Jan 13 19 09:00 am Link

Photographer

Ironeye

Posts: 7

Norwich, England, United Kingdom

Shadow Dancer wrote:

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/181220/00/5c1b57047171d_m.jpg

12

No. While you captured an image, I don't see where it fits with the theme of the OP. This is a static pose and not a difficult or uncomfortable one like Ken Marcus showed above.
Also, take a closer look at the details, there are small white spots here and there, most noticeable being the one on the outer rim of the left nostril. The blown out highlight on the lower lip and the bright eyelashes distract from the model's connection with the camera. While I like that shadows prevent us from viewing the model's sinuses, they are also inhibiting the expression of the eyes.

Good for you for not holding back smile

Jan 13 19 03:18 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Ironeye wrote:

Good for you for not holding back smile

Thanks, I hope you found my comments helpful.

Jan 14 19 10:44 am Link

Photographer

Ironeye

Posts: 7

Norwich, England, United Kingdom

Shadow Dancer wrote:

Thanks, I hope you found my comments helpful.

Anything that makes you take a second look is worth it.

Jan 14 19 01:34 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

Ironeye wrote:

Anything that makes you take a second look is worth it.

Exactly, thank you for understanding the true purpose of critique.
It's impossible to be totally objective, all I can offer is my personal subjective view.
If that is not the same as yours then there are new things to consider.
Cheers!

Jan 14 19 02:01 pm Link

Photographer

David Kirk

Posts: 4852

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

how about this one?

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140119/05/52dbd46b879fd_m.jpg

Jan 16 19 08:11 am Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

David Kirk wrote:
how about this one?

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140119/05/52dbd46b879fd_m.jpg

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No, there is nothing split second about this. It may have happened in a split second but it also could have taken 15 minutes (just a random number I tossed in).

The dark outfit and higher contrast shadow lighting creates an indistiguishable shape, we cannot tell what is shadow and what is the shape of the model on her right side. I would like to see a little more light in the eyes, the catchlights are there but the eyes don't "pop", partly due to the highlights on the forehead and under the eyes on the upper cheekbones, those are distracting me away from her gaze.

I'll do 2 more critiques and then I am done. Please read the OP before submitting! Thanks to all who have submitted thus far.

Jan 16 19 09:25 am Link

Photographer

David Kirk

Posts: 4852

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Shadow Dancer wrote:

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No, there is nothing split second about this. It may have happened in a split second but it also could have taken 15 minutes (just a random number I tossed in).

The dark outfit and higher contrast shadow lighting creates an indistiguishable shape, we cannot tell what is shadow and what is the shape of the model on her right side. I would like to see a little more light in the eyes, the catchlights are there but the eyes don't "pop", partly due to the highlights on the forehead and under the eyes on the upper cheekbones, those are distracting me away from her gaze.

I'll do 2 more critiques and then I am done. Please read the OP before submitting! Thanks to all who have submitted thus far.

Thanks for your insights...much appreciated!

Jan 16 19 07:25 pm Link

Photographer

Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9781

Bellingham, Washington, US

David Kirk wrote:

Thanks for your insights...much appreciated!

You're welcome, thanks for sharing your work, it's very nice!

Jan 17 19 09:52 am Link