rfordphotos wrote:
And the temper tantrums begin--- little Donnie is upset-

Trump’s post-election purge has begun

Late Friday afternoon, the White House fired Bonnie Glick, the Senate-confirmed deputy administrator of the U.S. Agency for International Development, without any justification offered, making her the first senior Trump political appointee to be purged following the election. The move further cripples the $31 billion agency in the middle of a global pandemic and potentially during a presidential transition as well.
[...]
Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper, CIA Director Gina Haspel and several other senior officials could be shown the door unceremoniously in the coming days and weeks, multiple sources said.
[...]
----  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions … ion-purge/

And so begins potentially the most dangerous period in American history - lame duck trump's scorched earth revenge and score settling rampage.

Focuspuller wrote:
Utter rubbish. Joe Biden is as middle of the road as it gets - NO to Green New Deal. NO to "defund the police." NO to "Medicare for al"l.

Biden may have had the top spot on the ticket, but it is Harris who the Democrats were running for President.  Biden may well beat Harrison's record for shortest Presidency.  They have to do it quick because when the American people see what they intend to do, the mid-term elections in 2022 could go bad for them,  You think Pelosi was gearing up the idea of using the 25th Amendment to remove a President who is mentally unfit for office on Trump?  She is lining that up for VP Harris to use on President Biden.  Biden will be gone and the far left will be in power.  Say Hi to Green New Deal, Defunding Police, Medicare for All and Fossil Fuels.

Focuspuller wrote:
What does middle of the road even MEAN to you? Who are you trying to kid, voting for TRUMP? You would NEVER have voted Democrat.

I voted for some local Democrats in this election.  I am not bound to any party.  I vote for (or against) the person based on how I believe they line up with my beliefs.

Focuspuller wrote:
And what exactly is YOUR leader doing right now? Encouraging his sheeple to reject a possible Biden presidency as ILLEGITIMATE!. What a great American you voted for because Biden was "bat shit crazy left." Shame on trump and shame on you.

Why must you say "shame" on me for who I voted for.  Do you hate me because I didn't support Biden/Harris?  Why must anyone say "shame" to anyone else for how they vote or what they believe is the right course for the country?  Is your opinion the only valid one and all others are evil? 

You call them his "sheepie" as an insult.  Perhaps they are just people who disagree with you.  Perhaps they are just people who don't trust the government, the deep state, or the swamp.  Do you totally trust the government in all things?

ethasleftthebuilding wrote:
Why must you say "shame" on me for who I voted for.  Do you hate me because I didn't support Biden/Harris?  Why must anyone say "shame" to anyone else for how they vote or what they believe is the right course for the country?  Is your opinion the only valid one and all others are evil? 

You call them his "sheepie" as an insult.  Perhaps they are just people who disagree with you.  Perhaps they are just people who don't trust the government, the deep state, or the swamp.  Do you totally trust the government in all things?

I would agree with you if we were talking about a Romney, a McCain, a Bush, a Reagan, ALL of whom I opposed but never considered an existential threat to the country, the world, and the planet. DONALD J TRUMP is without QUESTION, a fraud, a liar, a closet fascist, a racist, and enthralled with tinpot dictators and autocrats. He is  a damaged psyche, unfit and unqualified and was only elected due to a quirk in our electoral system, having lost the popular vote by a combined vote approaching 8 million. And so does he govern with humility? NO. He governs like he OWNS the Government, and the entire government exists to SERVE HIM.

The DEEP STATE? THE SWAMP?  It is YOUR guy replacing professional, non partisan, dedicated Americans with incompetent toadies whose only qualification is loyalty to "my leader." THAT is what I call a SWAMP.

And boo hoo about the MAGAT "grievances" You know how we don't redress grievances in this country? WE DONT TEAR IT DOWN IN A FIT OF PIQUE by injecting CANCER in the body politic.

So YES. Shame on them and shame on you INDEED.

ethasleftthebuilding wrote:
Biden may have had the top spot on the ticket, but it is Harris who the Democrats were running for President.  Biden may well beat Harrison's record for shortest Presidency.  They have to do it quick because when the American people see what they intend to do, the mid-term elections in 2022 could go bad for them,  You think Pelosi was gearing up the idea of using the 25th Amendment to remove a President who is mentally unfit for office on Trump?  She is lining that up for VP Harris to use on President Biden.  Biden will be gone and the far left will be in power.  Say Hi to Green New Deal, Defunding Police, Medicare for All and Fossil Fuels.

I hadn't read your entire post for some reason when I replied above. Now that I have, I realized I treated you with WAY too much respect. The above paragraph is bat shit crazy, projected right out of the pie hole of the whack job vomitariat. So I misspoke. I didnt fully comprehend what you are. Anyone who posts this kind of CRAP cannot experience shame. Your fever dream says more about you than anything you might pinch out about Biden and Democrats.

"I vote for (or against) the person based on how I believe they line up with my beliefs."

Trump lines up with your beliefs? Got it. Shame on you? Not worth it.

ethasleftthebuilding wrote:
Biden may have had the top spot on the ticket, but it is Harris who the Democrats were running for President.  Biden may well beat Harrison's record for shortest Presidency.  They have to do it quick because when the American people see what they intend to do, the mid-term elections in 2022 could go bad for them,  You think Pelosi was gearing up the idea of using the 25th Amendment to remove a President who is mentally unfit for office on Trump?  She is lining that up for VP Harris to use on President Biden.  Biden will be gone and the far left will be in power.  Say Hi to Green New Deal, Defunding Police, Medicare for All and Fossil Fuels.

This^^^^^^
And just like Obama, anyone who opposes Harris based on policy will automatically be labeled a racist with misogynist tacked on.

JustHenry wrote:

This^^^^^^
And just like Obama, anyone who opposes Harris based on policy will automatically be labeled a racist with misogynist tacked on.

True, if you believe right wing commentators.  False, if you have a sense of reality and look at people as individuals instead of the most basic generalizations that you can boil them down to.  And what do you care how people characterize you if they are wrong? 

In most conversations I had with people that were anti-Obama during his Presidency, the reasons that I got from them as to why they didn't like him where either the Tucker Carlson type points of twisted logic, generalizations and lies (Socialism, yada, yada, yada) or just an expression of vitriol hatred.  Very little firm or thought out expressions of policy specifics.  They liked to blame Obama care but in order to support that, they had to ignore the spiraling escalating cost of health insurance prior to Obama care.   In those days, I provided my employees with health care benefits and they were putting me out of business.  I was working 60-80 weeks to provide health care for my family and my employees.  I had to let attrition eliminate all my employees except one, who is married to a school teacher, and he gets his health care off the public dime.  And my wife had to increase her hours to qualify from her employer.

This that expressed a vitriol hatred would sooner or later make a statement indicating where the hatred came from. 

While I will concede that some people did not hate Obama because he was black, many did.  And the pattern continued with trump.  Yesterday I asked a friend why she liked trump, to an extent, and she said because it was because he speaks his mind (yes, if speaking incoherently, repetitively and childishly is a good thing) and because, she said, that he was doing things that had to be done.  She couldn't articulate anything about what had to be done, or why it had to be done without an effort to please anyone outside of his base, which admittedly, proves to be much larger than expected.  She did admit that trump is an ass in many respects. 

What I was hearing from conservatives about Harris was two fold:  They didn't want to vote for Biden because if Biden didn't live through his presidency then Harris would be president and she was too far left.  For which, I pointed out that they knew what trump is and that he would be undoubtedly less restrained in a second term and that they are voting for a "what if" scenario that may not ever occur regarding Biden's life span.  In the meantime, both Harris and Biden are much better people. 

The second point they made was the Harris is too far left.  They didn't consider that Harris, like Obama, if she became President due to the demise of Biden, that she would be constrained by a hostile Republican Congress, because, even if the Senate had flipped, the filibuster still exists and the Senate couldn't have flipped enough to give Democrats a filibuster proof majority.  But even the ones that I know to be consciously not racist, still regurgitated Hannity, Ingram, Carlson type garbage.  Most Presidents move toward center to govern so they can build coalitions.  trump, obviously, did not, and it cost him re-election.

Hunter  GWPB wrote:
In most conversations I had with people that were anti-Obama during his Presidency, the reasons that I got from them as to why they didn't like him where either the Tucker Carlson type points of twisted logic, generalizations and lies (Socialism, yada, yada, yada)

While I will concede that some people did not hate Obama because he was black, many did. 

What I was hearing from conservatives about Harris was two fold:  They didn't want to vote for Biden because if Biden didn't live through his presidency then Harris would be president and she was too far left.  For which, I pointed out that they knew what trump is and that he would be undoubtedly less restrained in a second term and that they are voting for a "what if" scenario that may not ever occur regarding Biden's life span.  In the meantime, both Harris and Biden are much better people. 

The second point they made was the Harris is too far left.  They didn't consider that Harris, like Obama, if she became President due to the demise of Biden, that she would be constrained by a hostile Republican Congress, because, even if the Senate had flipped, the filibuster still exists and the Senate couldn't have flipped enough to give Democrats a filibuster proof majority.  But even the ones that I know to be consciously not racist, still regurgitated Hannity, Ingram, Carlson type garbage.  Most Presidents move toward center to govern so they can build coalitions.  trump, obviously, did not, and it cost him re-election.

I didn't like or want Obama because I didn't believe that America needed to be "fundamentally transformed".

Obama was biracial, not black.  A fact he could have used to unify the races rather than throw the black race card at every opportunity. As a biracial he could have articulated identifying and understanding both perspectives.  He chose to identify as black.

As for presuming the Harris/Biden ticket is too liberal, all one has to do is read the platform posted on the official website. All one has to do is listen to the words that come out of Biden's mouth, like promising to put Beto "HELL YES WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS" O'Rourke in charge of the "gun problem" or "I'm going to raise your taxes".

My objection to the democrat party is based on what I hear them say and what I read on their official sites.  I don't rely on anyone else to form my opinions.

Thank fully the Republicans in Congress, or at least most of them, remember that they were elected to represent their constituents, the majority of which hold conservative views.  So when I see a Republican congressman opposing the democrat agenda and I don't view it as obstruction, I view it as representing the people who put them in office.  When the tables are turned your side views democrats the same way.

JustHenry wrote:
Obama was biracial, not black.  A fact he could have used to unify the races rather than throw the black race card at every opportunity. As a biracial he could have articulated identifying and understanding both perspectives.  He chose to identify as black.

Your’re showing your soul on this comment. And trust me, it’s ugly in there.

IMAGINERIES wrote:
This is becoming ridicule...Is the media milking the situation?...With the help of the White House tenant?....

I don’t know if I should comment or not.
Let me start by begging the question “Are we going to have a president by New Year?”
• ridiculous
• we already have a president.
• correct question is will 🇺🇸 have a president-elect by _____
• why? What prompts the question?

JustHenry wrote:
This^^^^^^
And just like Obama, anyone who opposes Harris based on policy will automatically be labeled a racist with misogynist tacked on.

Maybe you and ethasleftthebuilding can get a package deal on a therapist for your delusions. Maybe even adjoining suites in the sanitarium.

After a wild election night on November 7, 2000, during which TV networks first called the key state of Florida for Gore, then for Bush, followed by a concession by Gore that was soon rescinded, the results for who would be the nation’s 43rd president were simply too close to call.

In the 36 days that followed, Americans learned Gore had won the popular vote by 543,895 votes. But it’s winning the Electoral College that counts. As accusations of fraud and voter suppression, calls for recounts and the filing of lawsuits ensued, the terms “hanging chads,” “dimpled chads” and “pregnant chads” became part of the lexicon.

Andrew E. Busch, professor of government at Claremont McKenna College and co-author of The Perfect Tie: The True Story of the 2000 Presidential Election, says as votes were counted and Bush’s lead grew, TV networks retracted their premature call of Gore, instead giving the state to Bush.

“When the lead shrank to about 2,000 votes in the early hours of the morning, TV reversed again, rescinded the call for Bush, and declared Florida as yet undetermined,” he says. “The initial problem was failure of the exit polls, for which they later overcompensated.”

Bush assembled a top notch team of attorneys, and, through a variety of different legal maneuvers involving counts and recounts, he had eventually solidified his victory.

Three attorneys from that team? Well, they just happen to be Chief Supreme Court Justice John Roberts, and his two newest colleagues, Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett.  ROTFLMAO

Two of the current sitting Justices, Clarence Thomas and Stephen Breyer, were also on the highest court at that time, and, predictably, had different opinions on the matter, with Breyer taking Gore’s side and Thomas taking Bush’s side.

For good measure, Justice Neil Gorsuch also has ties to that era, as W. had nominated him to serve on the Tenth Circuit in 2006.

What does all this mean? It means we have several judges who are no stranger to being involved in complex legal battles over ballot shenanigans. 

Perhaps this is the tie that bound Trump’s nominations, knowing that there was a high likelihood of widespread voter fraud in his reelection campaign, and he wanted to get the best judges in there to combat it. Combine this with the 215 other judges that Trump has appointed during his Presidency so far, and you have to start feeling good about the federal court involvement in this sham election.

source: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1 … -election/

barepixels wrote:
...
Perhaps this is the tie that bound Trump’s nominations, knowing that there was a high likelihood of widespread voter fraud in his reelection campaign, and he wanted to get the best judges in there to combat it. Combine this with the 215 other judges that Trump has appointed during his Presidency so far, and you have to start feeling good about the federal court involvement in this sham election.

As I've mentioned before, the court system is pretty good at filtering out the bullshit from the facts, before cases can get moved up to the Supreme Court.

Here's the status of the cases Trump has filed over the election, and the very poor success rate so far:

"(Time)  Here Are All the Lawsuits the Trump Campaign Has Filed Since Election Day—And Why Most Are Unlikely to Go Anywhere"

https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/

---

Of course, any that are NOT complete B.S and actually DO affect the results, absolutely should be taken seriously.   Especially should there be any that actually change the bottom line results (extremely unlikely, but we'll see).

Should a "critical" case (of serious consequence) make it to a full Supreme Court hearing, may I suggest that an experienced, well respected, high profile lawyer make the Supreme Court argument.  Like, say, Rudy Giuliani?

barepixels wrote:
I just made this meme  lolol

"I LIKE BEER! Huh? Wha? My decision? OOOHH, yeah whatever Coke Can Clarence  said."

JustHenry wrote:
I didn't like or want Obama because I didn't believe that America needed to be "fundamentally transformed".

Obama was biracial, not black.  A fact he could have used to unify the races rather than throw the black race card at every opportunity. As a biracial he could have articulated identifying and understanding both perspectives.  He chose to identify as black. 

If you don't believe that America doesn't need to be fundamentally transformed that means you don't have to vote for him.  But you say, you don't like HIM, not that you don't like his policies. 

As for presuming the Harris/Biden ticket is too liberal, all one has to do is read the platform posted on the official website. All one has to do is listen to the words that come out of Biden's mouth, like promising to put Beto "HELL YES WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS" O'Rourke in charge of the "gun problem" or "I'm going to raise your taxes".

My objection to the democrat party is based on what I hear them say and what I read on their official sites.  I don't rely on anyone else to form my opinions.

Thank fully the Republicans in Congress, or at least most of them, remember that they were elected to represent their constituents, the majority of which hold conservative views.  So when I see a Republican congressman opposing the democrat agenda and I don't view it as obstruction, I view it as representing the people who put them in office.  When the tables are turned your side views democrats the same way.

"Obama was biracial, not black."  Is that how all racist view it?  I have had a couple of people say crap like, "He is Jamaican."  Or African.  Because, somehow that is different from being black in America.  Before you think, in your mind, of a racial slur or generalization when you see a black or brown or red or yellow skinned person- do you stop and ask the person, "Hey wait, I need to know:  Where you born in this country?  Are you biracial?"  No?  Jeez, so you call everyone of that race a ... in your mind regardless of them being bi-racial, until you know other wise, and then you treat that person like a white person?  Or do you have a different level of emotion for bi-racial people?  I mean, I get it.  I have never seen a black person followed around the store when they were biracial.  I never once heard someone call Obama a ....  Or a biracial ....

How do you identify?  Do you identify as just plain old white?  Or do you use some European or north Asian country or region?  Please tell me what it is you identify with.   You have given me the right to ignore whatever you chose to identify with.  (As a reminder: "He chose to identify as black.")  Because, now I am sure it isn't your choice to make regarding how you want to identify yourself.  I am sure I can come up with a derogatory slang term for the region.  I mean, I think I remember hearing Obama say things like, "As a black man, ...."  But you get to ignore how he identifies himself, which is most likely very closely related to how white people (honkies? crackers?) treated him. 

Curious.  Were Sally Hemmings children from Thomas Jefferson, bi-racial?  Were they half slave, half free?  What ever happened to the accepted qualification to be white: Not one drop of black blood.  But cool, somehow we magically went from even the most remote ancestor being black made you black, to being half black means you aren't permitted to identify as black, despite the color of your skin.

"rather than throw the black race card at every opportunity."  There's a gem.  If you look at the side bar, you can see exactly how many times I have posted over the years I have been here.  Now, tel me how many times I have written responses and didn't post them at all.  If you can't tell how many times I have opted not to post here, how can you possibly tell how many times that Obama didn't use the race card?  I know, you think Obama should have been just like every other white president.  He is HALF WHITE after all.  How dare he embrace his black skin?

A problem is that you live in South Carolina.  But you aren't really aware what it is like in other places, are you?  You are "baffled" by early voting, after all.  I mean, South Carolina is cool enough.  The people are decent.  At least to me, but I am white and damn good looking. That opens a lot doors.  You think that every one in South Carolina has the same life advantages as me?  "I care about everybody. If you're a young African American, an immigrant, you can go anywhere in this state, you just need to be conservative, not liberal."  Per Lindsey Graham.  That is from your Senator.  And you think that other people might not share your belief that America doesn't need to be fundamentally transformed?  Oh, and by the way, I read what the Republicans say as well as what the Democrats say.

"My objection to the democrat<sic> party is based on what I hear them say and what I read on their official sites.  I don't rely on anyone else to form my opinions.'  Bullshit, dude.  Bullshit.  The paragraph before you wrote this laughable comment, you showed us that this is bullshit.  One of the preceding "quotes" is a paraphrase which you quote from other sources and both are outright manipulations.  If you relied on what Biden or anyone else says, then quote them.  And cite them (Yeah, I know, you are too good to provides your citations.  You think everyone can find exactly what you read in the ocean of google.)

"the Republicans in Congress, or at least most of them, remember that they were elected to represent their constituents, the majority of which hold conservative views."   There are some keys in there that you seem to miss.  Their constituents isn't just the majority of their constituents.  It isn't some of them.  It isn't just the ones that share their views.  And if you want Republicans to represent THEIR constituents, then why are Republicans howling so loud about Ocasio-Cortez and other far left progressives?  They are in Congress representing THEIR constituents, too.   But republicans have to make them into boogie men for doing the exact same thing that republicans think is righteous if Republicans do it.

Though it is off topic, if you don't think we have a gun problem, then from my perspective, as a gun owner and, who as a youth was an avid shooter and hunter; you are out of your mind!  I don't care if every person in this country has a bakers dozen of legally owned guns.  But when criminals are easily armed to the teeth; when cops shoot people with cell phones because they see everyone as being armed; or madmen shoot up high schoolers or first graders, and the armed men associated with Republican zealots need to show up with high power semi-automatics weapons, in violation of state laws, to 'scope out' the place in center city Philadelphia where votes are being counted- we have a gun problem!   Just because Biden wants to put a left side zealot in charge of talking about the problem, doesn't mean anyone is going to lose their guns.  Look at all of the white supremacists, anti government, anti-society, anti-minority zealots on the other side of the equation!

You blame Obama because he didn't unite the races as a biracial man, but you are pro-trump when he had no interest in uniting the races.  Nice.

barepixels wrote:
I made another meme. teehee

Love the shot were Thomas' wife is glaring at him as he lies about Anita Hill AND SHE KNOWS IT!  Teehee!

IMAGINERIES wrote:
Are we going to have a president by New Year?

NO . . . not until January 20th, 2021

Focuspuller wrote:

ethasleftthebuilding wrote:
Biden may have had the top spot on the ticket, but it is Harris who the Democrats were running for President.  Biden may well beat Harrison's record for shortest Presidency.  They have to do it quick because when the American people see what they intend to do, the mid-term elections in 2022 could go bad for them,  You think Pelosi was gearing up the idea of using the 25th Amendment to remove a President who is mentally unfit for office on Trump?  She is lining that up for VP Harris to use on President Biden.  Biden will be gone and the far left will be in power.  Say Hi to Green New Deal, Defunding Police, Medicare for All and Fossil Fuels.

Focuspuller wrote:
I hadn't read your entire post for some reason when I replied above. Now that I have, I realized I treated you with WAY too much respect. The above paragraph is bat shit crazy, projected right out of the pie hole of the whack job vomitariat. So I misspoke. I didnt fully comprehend what you are. Anyone who posts this kind of CRAP cannot experience shame. Your fever dream says more about you than anything you might pinch out about Biden and Democrats.

"I vote for (or against) the person based on how I believe they line up with my beliefs."

Trump lines up with your beliefs? Got it. Shame on you? Not worth it.

Trump lines up more with my beliefs than Biden.  No one candidate will ever live up 100% with any one voter.  Sometimes we pick who we think is best and other times we pick the lesser of two worst. 

Ohh, and about the "bat shit crazy" theory I floated and your response...well, it will be right here when we find out what really happens.  You and I can revisit it at that time.

barepixels wrote:
Three Supreme Court Justices Were On The Bush Legal Team From The 2000 Election



Had Twitter or Facebook been around in 2000, #HangingChads would have been trending for a month. Many of us remember the legal battles that ensued over Florida’s then-25 electoral votes.

The History Channel reminds us:


Bush assembled a top notch team of attorneys, and, through a variety of different legal maneuvers involving counts and recounts, he had eventually solidified his victory.

Three attorneys from that team? Well, they just happen to be Chief Supreme Court Justice John Roberts, and his two newest colleagues, Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett.  ROTFLMAO

Two of the current sitting Justices, Clarence Thomas and Stephen Breyer, were also on the highest court at that time, and, predictably, had different opinions on the matter, with Breyer taking Gore’s side and Thomas taking Bush’s side.

For good measure, Justice Neil Gorsuch also has ties to that era, as W. had nominated him to serve on the Tenth Circuit in 2006.

What does all this mean? It means we have several judges who are no stranger to being involved in complex legal battles over ballot shenanigans. 

Perhaps this is the tie that bound Trump’s nominations, knowing that there was a high likelihood of widespread voter fraud in his reelection campaign, and he wanted to get the best judges in there to combat it. Combine this with the 215 other judges that Trump has appointed during his Presidency so far, and you have to start feeling good about the federal court involvement in this sham election.

source: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1 … -election/

Had Gore won his home state of Tennessee, the state that sent Gore to the Senate, the state Bill Clinton carried in 1992 and 1996, Florida could have gone to Bush and Gore would have been President.

FFantastique wrote:
I don’t know if I should comment or not.
Let me start by begging the question “Are we going to have a president by New Year?”
• ridiculous
• we already have a president.
• correct question is will 🇺🇸 have a president-elect by _____
• why? What prompts the question?

I like the succinct and plainly stated nature of your reply! A good way to disagree without being disagreeable or ugly about it.

JustHenry wrote:
It appears from the vote count that roughly 50% of voters support Trump and the Republican party.

While the degree of roughness is important here, this statement is an important thing for your opposition to remember. They/we may not always be able to comprehend how anyone could feel/think as Trump's followers do, but we DO have to find ways of living together if we are ever again to make a COMMUNITY of citizens out of the USA.

The Covid pandemic, oddly enough, may move us more towards that possibility, once people begin to more universally accept its reality, and to know that it touches on all of our lives in profound ways.

Having a common enemy is the best way to draw together any populace. And, since the only way out of the pandemic is for this society to develop a more highly refined sense of empathy, community and responsibility, we may just find ourselves being able to make some moves towards solving some of our presently intractable political and interpersonal problems as well.

HOPE requires ACTION if it is to succeed in becoming reality. It's up to all of us, each and every one.

IMAGINERIES wrote:
Are we going to have a president by New Year?.

maybe a Dictator

ethasleftthebuilding wrote:
We will have a new President on January 20th and then another new President within a few months, if not sooner.

Biden is an old school Democrat, he knows making deals is the way to further a political career.  Very few in Washington have been in government as long as he has.  As soon as he takes the oath office, he will have to start paying off those he made deals with.  The far left is going to be first in line, they are already making demands now. 

Biden is an old school Democrat, he knows he has to maintain at least an appearance of being just a bit left of center in order to have any hope of keeping the House in 2022 and being re-elected in 2024.  He is going to try to work the middle, as he has done his whole career.  So the first folks who are going to be disappointed by Biden are the far left crazies.

The problem for Biden is the far left is perfectly willing to eat their own.  He will be removed quickly so VP Harris can move up.  She will be much more inclined to march hard left. 

I know, some here will call this crazy...but as my ole Daddy used to say "hide and watch".

Yep, I was in the basement of Cosmic Pizza in Washington D.C. the other night eating the adrenal glands of young children along with Hillary and Bill Gates, and that’s exactly what we were all saying.

PHP-Photography wrote:

Wonder whom to blame for that...

the governors that changed the laws within 90 days of an election and sent out ballots to people who didn't ask for them. Of course it was the first time the dead voted by mail, usually they just vote in person...sort of. There are records of the dead voting going back many years

ethasleftthebuilding wrote:
Biden is an old school Democrat, he knows he has to maintain at least an appearance of being just a bit left of center in order to have any hope of keeping the House in 2022 and being re-elected in 2024.  He is going to try to work the middle, as he has done his whole career.  So the first folks who are going to be disappointed by Biden are the far left crazies.

.

What do you think the odds are that IF he takes the oath that he will still be in office in six months? A year?
Nancy is a big fan of the 25th Amendment . Wonder if he is hiring food tasters?

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Some of you folks are INSANE.  To think Kamala Harris will turn hard left is bonkers.   Biden is a life long center right Democrat.  Yes, Obama is bi-racial and yes he identifies as Black but frankly White America sees him as Black.  What could he have done to so called bring the races together?   Give me some ideas.   Lets be candid the only way many conservative White people would have liked Obama is if he attacked other Black people.   What terrified the world and many people about Trump beyond his self serving dishonesty, is that he is nutty.    He's a grifter but he's no dummy.   He knows he lost but he will use his supporters to make money. 

My best guess is he will use the time he has left to work out a deal.  Give me a pardon (He will try for state crimes too) or I spill all the tea.   This is why Republican nation security experts are afraid of what we will do.   https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcev … aa5b005375

All one has to do it look back a Kamala Harris' career to see she will turn whatever direction will benefit Kamala Harris.  One example, she calls Joe Biden a racist in the primaries and then defends him when she is selected at his running mate.  Did she really believe he was a racist and then just ignored it in order to be VP or was she lying during the primaries?  The list goes on and on the more you look back over her career.

Obama's greatest failure was he did not use the bully pulpit of the Presidency to bring about positive change while he had the nation's ear.  There were a whole lot of white people who voted for Obama the first time and even more to re-elect him, one cannot just say that white people were against him from the start.  His problem with so many people was his negativity toward the country.  He ran on a positive message of hope and change when he really was anger and despair.  He had a unique opportunity to bring the country together and move past so many problems of the past, but he chose to be negative.

Trump is Trump.  He has not changed from his younger days.  When he was elected, the people knew exactly what they were getting because he has been vocal without a filter or a care of who he offends all his public life.  It is funny how all the hollywood elites and wealthy liberals loved him until he ran for President. 

Once Trump is out of office, they need to let him go away and never bring him up again.  All the investigations and threats of charges need to be dropped.  Two reasons (1) they need to get back to working for the country (2) if they ever charge him with anything and he gets his day in court, he will tell all on everybody, and don't be fooled to think he had not been collecting evidence on all those who have tried to get him for the last four years.  It will be nasty and a lot of heads will roll.  But, on second thought, maybe that is what the country needs to clean out the corruption in DC.

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All one has to do it look back a Kamala Harris' career to see she will turn whatever direction will benefit Kamala Harris.  One example, she calls Joe Biden a racist in the primaries and then defends him when she is selected at his running mate.  Did she really believe he was a racist and then just ignored it in order to be VP or was she lying during the primaries?  The list goes on and on the more you look back over her career.

Obama's greatest failure was he did not use the bully pulpit of the Presidency to bring about positive change while he had the nation's ear.  There were a whole lot of white people who voted for Obama the first time and even more to re-elect him, one cannot just say that white people were against him from the start.  His problem with so many people was his negativity toward the country.  He ran on a positive message of hope and change when he really was anger and despair.  He had a unique opportunity to bring the country together and move past so many problems of the past, but he chose to be negative.

Trump is Trump.  He has not changed from his younger days.  When he was elected, the people knew exactly what they were getting because he has been vocal without a filter or a care of who he offends all his public life.  It is funny how all the hollywood elites and wealthy liberals loved him until he ran for President. 

Once Trump is out of office, they need to let him go away and never bring him up again.  All the investigations and threats of charges need to be dropped.  Two reasons (1) they need to get back to working for the country (2) if they ever charge him with anything and he gets his day in court, he will tell all on everybody, and don't be fooled to think he had not been collecting evidence on all those who have tried to get him for the last four years.  It will be nasty and a lot of heads will roll.  But, on second thought, maybe that is what the country needs to clean out the corruption in DC.

Once again you believe what you hear without confirming facts and you look like a fool.

"Harris criticized Biden on certain topics related to race during a debate in June 2019, but she prefaced those remarks with “I do not believe you are a racist.”   https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9244041620

If you can't get your basics correct, then all the assumptions you have made are void.

You also believe the lie about Obama.  Obama, unlike trump, was an American president.  You want to blame him for not accomplishing things because Republicans and people like you stood in his path and prevented those accomplishments.  Those accomplishments he did achieve were then subject to an onslaught by trump, Republicans, and you, having attempted to eliminate them despite the benefits and regardless of who was or will be hurt.  Those most often hurt are the American people, but it has not been limited to them.

You say the problem with Obama was his negativity towards the country, but everyday you tout the glory of the guy that ran twice, completely on the negativity of America.  trump has never stopped being negative and never will.  You are such a hypocrite.

trump does not deserve a get out of jail free card.  If he broke laws, he deserves to face the people for breaking the laws.  You sit there and complain about the lack of law and order in the streets but you want to promote dishonesty and corruption from the highest office in the land.  We are a country of laws, or we aren't.  Make up your mind.

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BTW, still waiting to see the wonderful health care replacement bill for the ACA .  But trump had time to spend ANOTHER DAY on the golf course Saturday.