Forums > Photography Talk > From the horses mouth re: NYPD and photograpahy:

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Accidental Plateau

Posts: 7715

Brooklyn, New York, US

https://davidkonig.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/NYPD_photography_rules.jpg

This is a copy of the actual operations order.

Print out and laminate !

Mar 18 12 02:47 pm Link

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liddellphoto

Posts: 1801

London, England, United Kingdom

Mar 18 12 02:53 pm Link

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Andrew Koenig

Posts: 363

Gillette, New Jersey, US

For more information about MTA rules, look here: http://www.mta.info/nyct/rules/rules.htm

Mar 18 12 03:00 pm Link

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PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 4606

Jacksonville, Florida, US

I was inside the main bus terminal MTA, shooting an art sculpture, and was told by NYPD officer I had to stop and not shoot anymore inside or in the immediate outside area, I understood his reasoning as this was only a year after 911 attacks.

Mar 18 12 03:06 pm Link

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MichaelClements

Posts: 1739

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Wow I wasnt expecting to read that. I remember in the UK in the early 2000s they tried to sneak a bill through that would make photography in a public place an offense. Minds you they are well known for being sneaky bastards for dwindling public rights a la riot act.

Mar 18 12 03:15 pm Link

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Green Line Photo

Posts: 75

New York, New York, US

None of this is new, but it's worth reposting from time to time.

Mar 21 12 06:42 pm Link

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Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22232

Stamford, Connecticut, US

PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
I was inside the main bus terminal MTA, shooting an art sculpture, and was told by NYPD officer I had to stop and not shoot anymore inside or in the immediate outside area, I understood his reasoning as this was only a year after 911 attacks.

I was doing a fine art series of night photography of the city of Stamford and wanted to shoot in, on and around the train station (part of MetroNorth).  All they wanted was proof of insurance naming them for the duration of the shoot and they issued me a free permit for the times I requested. 

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251452_10150275145407179_149040577178_7485438_2414414_n.jpg

Mar 22 12 08:21 am Link

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Vintagevista

Posts: 11804

Sun City, California, US

That's all well and good - until some bad tempered cop slaps cuffs on you and tells you that your First Amendment Rights can be terminated at their discretion -

and that for every rule - they can make an exception - or use another statute as their cover.

You might win in the end - but, they still screwed you over - which was their intent in the first place.

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Ch … 05086.html

"The officer who handcuffed them is recorded on camera warning members of the media that their First Amendment rights could be terminated."

"Your First Amendment rights can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever," the officer said.

When asked how they were creating a scene, the officer said, "Your presence is creating a scene."

Mar 22 12 08:28 am Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

Vintagevista wrote:
That's all well and good - until some bad tempered cop slaps cuffs on you and tells you that your First Amendment Rights can be terminated at their discretion -

X10.  I find that less confrontation the better.  The law is not always on my side in pubic when arguing with the police. I let them to have their way and move on.  If the location is so important, I come back in half hour.

Mar 22 12 08:45 am Link