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Brian Diaz wrote: there are a FEW exceptions to this, but it is VERY few. so yah, pretty much this rule. Jun 07 10 06:07 am Link cara crass styling wrote: I'm 5'5" and have done fashion work. I was selected for an 8-page fashion spread for a magazine where they were incorporating a vintage look with fetish accessories. I fit the bill perfectly. The fashion designer loved my curves so much that he's used me in many of his clothes for his website and wants to use me in a fashion show. His clothes were made for taller girls, but I wear high heels and look great in them. Jun 07 10 06:17 am Link Lapis wrote: Haha i love this Jun 07 10 07:09 pm Link If fashion designers made clothes from short models they would be saving a lot of fabric! Jun 07 10 07:12 pm Link Brian Diaz wrote: Score!!!! Thats me! Jun 07 10 07:15 pm Link i think it all depends on how you look Jun 07 10 07:16 pm Link That's why I make all of my dresses. 5'5" is a hard place to be  Jun 07 10 08:28 pm Link Mayae wrote: I was gonna ask you to name one.. then noticed your profile is gone... lol Jun 07 10 08:32 pm Link Nicole Nygaard wrote: ...but selling a lot less clothes. Not a good exchange Jun 07 10 08:33 pm Link Lucas Chapman wrote: I think they would make more money if they had both small and tall sizes. Jun 07 10 08:36 pm Link Nicole Nygaard wrote: But then they just x2 their amount of fabric for samples. Ready to wear features many sizes for all ranges of women, but for the first garment, a sample is made. Whatever this size is going to be, it's going to be the same for all other samples. It could be a XXXL it could be a XS and hemmed for short models or it could be a S 0/1 with the length for tall models. Designers (clients) have found what works to sell their clothes (tall models), that's where the money is for them, so until they want to change it, nothing will change. It's just how it is. Models, photographers, muas, and hairstylists don't have a lot of say in the matter, but the first clients that hire all these people do. These are the fashion designers. Jun 07 10 08:53 pm Link Steve Campbell wrote: Same here. Most models in this area are under 5'6". Jun 08 10 05:20 am Link What I find strange is that when a new short model joins and asks what shoots they could do, people tell them fashion is out. Yeah maybe in the real world but on MM photographers shoot short models for fashion all the time...I wonder why that is? Might as well just tell the models that on MM they can actually shoot whatever they like, majority don't take stats into account, unless they are a true fashion/editorial photographer and even then they make exceptions sometimes. Jun 08 10 05:24 am Link Klarrissa wrote: shh don't make sense Jun 08 10 06:40 am Link The fashion world is so corrupt and obsessed with extremley tall and skeletal women, because "they look best in the clothes and sell them better"? You know what? The reality is, most of the population is full of averaged height women with average healthy weights. Designers would make a heck of a lot more money if they made apparel that suited them, rather the latter. But then again, the high fashion garments don't come cheap, and are stuck with a fancy price tag, so i guess they have no reason to be open minded about using shorter women for runway on the catwalk since it wouldn't make a difference. I despise people who ostracize averaged height models because they don't think they are good enough for certain work. Sheeeeesh. Oct 11 10 12:18 am Link Glamour Boulevard wrote: Nope, there isn't, and there won't be, any more than there will be a NBA team of 5'6" players Oct 11 10 12:19 am Link Armina wrote: Honey, the fashion world is neither corrupt nor obsessed... its ALWAYS been that way, and its not going to change cause shorties stamp their little feet. Oct 11 10 12:21 am Link Lucas Chapman wrote: Yes I'm aware, and it should change. Oct 11 10 12:23 am Link At 5'5", I am a full time model and do just fine, but I don't try to be a fashion/runway model. I just stick with what pays my bills and what I enjoy, which is latex fetish fashion and glamour nudes. Oct 11 10 11:25 am Link I'm 5'4 - teeny weeny - but it's not going to stop me. So what if we can't do fashion and runway proffessionally? As someone mentioned earlier - we can work with hundreds of togs who would enjoy a 'Fashion' shoot Also - Redheads DO rule! Oct 11 10 12:34 pm Link I'm five foot and only do nude work, on top of not being tall enough for fashion, I'm not thin enough and couldn't have the super-model body even if I lost 20 pounds because of the body type I have. I'm not too interested in doing glamour and don't have a good look for that genre in the first place. Arts nudes is where it's at for me. Oct 11 10 12:54 pm Link Isabel Allende wrote: +1 Oct 11 10 12:56 pm Link Does anybody have any pointers they could give me on getting into commercial/print work? I am 5'4". I find that the most difficult part about modeling is actually finding the opportunities... Oct 11 10 09:18 pm Link Serpentine wrote: I think you should aim for beauty, glamour/swimsuit, and parlay into fitness. Oct 11 10 09:37 pm Link Miss Anthrope 1007 wrote: Thank you for your advice. It's not so much that I don't know which genres could be a selling point to me, I just don't know how to find the opportunities. I suppose I mean to ask how do models actually get work? Go around contacting fashion designers? catalogues? Is there a good website with casting calls that you don't have to pay to view? Oct 12 10 12:19 am Link short models= less fabric tall models= possibly the same amount or more fabric ???? Oct 12 10 12:25 am Link There is a market for short models called glamour models. High fashion starts at 5'9" and goes up. Get over it and realize the realities.  Oct 12 10 07:35 pm Link Lapis wrote:
Oct 12 10 07:38 pm Link Up until recently (dam*ed effed up hormones) I was a short model. I found some work, but not much. I can't wait till I finish up puberty Oct 12 10 07:38 pm Link Mayae wrote: Name me a few, would you??? Oct 12 10 07:40 pm Link Armina wrote: ...it won't. Oct 12 10 07:41 pm Link Nothings Impossible  Oct 12 10 08:37 pm Link Moraxian wrote: For a "fashion show" at the mall in Nowheresville, maybe. In the real world? One reason is all they need. Oct 12 10 08:42 pm Link California Dreamer wrote: What news stands is this magazine commonly found on? Oct 12 10 08:43 pm Link In my area shorter models can do promo type work, the occasional freelance job for a small business, or shoot nudes with GWCs (which is the most lucrative of the three). Occasionally you will see a (stunning) shorter model shoot for a Men's magazine or some other publication, but she is very likely doing it for free (working for tears) or for a very low fee. Modeling is not friendly to petite models. If I had a friend that was shorter ask me to be honest about her chances to 'make it' as a model, I would tell her to try acting. In other words, the chances are not very good. Oct 12 10 08:51 pm Link Lucas Chapman wrote: Its a brand New Magazine ,first edition comes out in January!! Oct 12 10 08:52 pm Link Honestly, some of the best nude models(or "Body Models" as I like to say) are actually in the 5'4 to 5'6 range. Something about the proportions work better at that height. In My Opinion, -JULIAN Oct 12 10 08:54 pm Link As far as I can tell, it's just a web site run on Wordpress. It's going to be an actual print magazine with national distribution in January? Got an ISSN number for it? I'd very much like to make sure my local stand carries it. Wow! Harsh! From this magazine's web site: One of the most misleading model-oriented websites on the internet is called Model Mayhem. Please beware they are a great example of the worst kind of site, where model hopefuls create a âportfolioâ to be seen by other members of the site ranging from photographers to photoshop wizards. Though this may sound like a reasonable way to make your mark in the modeling industry, itâs not. This is simply a website that takes advantage of those hoping to break into the fashion and entertainment industry through enticing subscribers with paid memberships to view your photos. Seriously? Yes, apparently so: Who are these so-called important people viewing your graphics? What you need to know is that Model Mayhem does not allow casting directors, publishers, model and talent agents or advertising agencies to join and those are the individuals you need to be seen by to get real work as a model. If you read the fine print on Model Mayhem you will find that it is for âentertainment purposes only!â Oh, how entertaining it is. There are plenty of amateur photographers and models posting sexually graphic content on a daily basis. Peter Baratti, a thirty year industry fashion photographer, says, âModel Mayhem has destroyed the meaning of what a real model is and it has made every girl feel like she can be a model because her pictures are posted.â Peter goes on to say, âModel Mayhem is a known dating website and is a sexual predators dream to entice women to take their clothes off, all in the pursuit of becoming a model.â There is more, but this is a sufficient excerpt, presented here under fair use (so mods, no copyright infringement happening) for review and commentary. My review: looks like they want to scare people into trusting them. My commentary: Wow. My analysis: If Internet Brands's legal department isn't putting together a letter noting a serious threat of libel, I'd be very surprised. And disappointed. The author, Angela Philips, might want to be a little concerned about this, especially when she then comments on her own online article: I am so glad you ladies read the article! The only way we can stop scam sites is by getting the truth out about them! Bella Petite is here for YOU! We will work hard to continue to bring you relevant content that you need and want! Getting 1 million women to join Bella Petite is the BEST way for us to CHANGE THE INDUSTRY!!! Scam sites? Model Mayhem is a scam site? Those are pretty tough words. Actionable, too. Another comment by "Rita" says: I thought everyone new Model Mayhem was a JOKE! Total SCAM! Bad news for wannabe models! You can get in real trouble on a scummy site like that one. Hats of to Bella for putting the warning out. Now call me suspicious, but all five comments by first-name people are about the same length and read at about the same pacing and level. You don't think they're fake comments, do you? As someone who runs another portfolio site that is for "entertainment" (if by "entertainment" you mean hobbyists are welcome and networking is the goal), this kind of disparaging verbiage about the industry directly concerns me. I hope it concerns you, too. Oct 12 10 09:33 pm Link Five years of hilarious nonsense crammed into a mere three pages. Best zombie thread ever!  Oct 12 10 09:47 pm Link This thread suffers from sloppy terminology. "Fashion" is usually assumed to mean haut couture or high fasion editorial and runway. Think Fashion Week in NY, Paris and Milan. For that you have to be tall because the designers only make "sample" sizes. That size is not negotiable. The designer makes a dozen or more creations, all the same size, then finds models to wear them. How would it be practical for the runway debut of a line for the designer to make a bunch of different sizes in anticipation of models from 5' 4" to 6' 0" showing up for auditions the day before the show? This part of the industry is very elite for everyone involved, the models, designers, photographers, muas etc. Being offended by the long-estabilshed standards is childish. You can model for a catalog for "ready to wear" clothing and although you may consider that "fashion" it is not the same thing as haute couture. But at least you can be shorter for this. Many, many shorter models do runway work but they do it for local designers, department stores, charity events etc. where the event organizers cannot afford NY Fashion Week type models or ready to wear garments are available. This is not haute couture in NY, Paris or Milan or posing for Vogue. There is a lot more work out there other than haute couture runway and editorial. However, there is a lot of competition in commercial work with tall models who don't have the "look" agencies want for runway work. So, if you are shorter, your best shot is glamour, commercial, nudes etc. as others here have said. My only explanation for the great number of shorter models is that "short" is really average and a) most of the models don't realize how the industry works and b) they are not interested in standard agency-related modeling but are looking to do glamour, nudes, alt and other genres more popular on the internet. BTW, agency fashion models are not typically anorexic. They are just tall and thin. Think Watusi versus Inuit, basketball vs. weight lifting. John == Oct 12 10 09:50 pm Link |
