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Photographer

Mark Bugzester

Posts: 26

New York, New York, US

I’ve been a photographer for almost 25 years. And I have to say The term
“Great capture” is not a photographic term. Never has been. So why is it only used On MM ?  You don’t  capture a photograph, you take a photograph, You are hired for a photographic shooting. You capture a mouse a lion a fish.
Not a photograph.

Jun 22 08 09:54 am Link

Photographer

Why Dangle

Posts: 2791

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

I can honestly say I have never captured a Lion ..... but I have captured some great images , expressions etc. whilst taking photographs.

Jun 22 08 09:59 am Link

Photographer

Dobias Fine Art Photo

Posts: 1697

Haddon Heights, New Jersey, US

Because you go hunting for a great image and bring 'em back alive!

Jun 22 08 10:01 am Link

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Mike Kirwan Photography

Posts: 573

Walnut Creek, California, US

Mark Bugzester wrote:
I’ve been a photographer for almost 25 years. And I have to say The term
“Great capture” is not a photographic term. Never has been. So why is it only used On MM ?  You don’t  capture a photograph, you take a photograph, You are hired for a photographic shooting. You capture a mouse a lion a fish.
Not a photograph.

This is quite a common term. I used to belong to a number of camera clubs both in the UK and here in the US. Judges of print competitions use the term all the time. So the term is not limited to MM

Jun 22 08 10:02 am Link

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DarkPhotographyDesigns

Posts: 2049

Germantown, Maryland, US

actually, according to the definition, it fits rather well. Especially when referring to models expression.

• record or express accurately in words or pictures : "she did a series of sketches, trying to capture all his moods."

Jun 22 08 10:05 am Link

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PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 4606

Jacksonville, Florida, US

cap�ture   ï¿½audio� (kpchr)  KEY �

TRANSITIVE VERB:
cap�tured , cap�tur�ing , cap�tures

   1. To take captive, as by force or craft; seize.
   2. To gain possession or control of, as in a game or contest: capture the queen in chess; captured the liberal vote.
   3. To attract and hold: tales of adventure that capture the imagination.
   4. To succeed in preserving in lasting form: capture a likeness in a painting.

NOUN:

   1. The act of catching, taking, or winning, as by force or skill.
   2. One that has been seized, caught, or won; a catch or prize.
   3. Physics The phenomenon in which an atom or a nucleus absorbs a subatomic particle, often with the subsequent emission of radiation.
I see words like "control" do you control your camera?.if so "capture Image" could be used smile !


#4. really hits this post very well !!!

Jun 22 08 10:06 am Link

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Minx & Fox

Posts: 19067

Palm Springs, California, US

Before I joined MM I heard the term "great capture" plenty. hmm

Jun 22 08 10:07 am Link

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DarkPhotographyDesigns

Posts: 2049

Germantown, Maryland, US

PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
cap�ture   ï¿½audio� (kpchr)  KEY �

TRANSITIVE VERB:
cap�tured , cap�tur�ing , cap�tures

   1. To take captive, as by force or craft; seize.
   2. To gain possession or control of, as in a game or contest: capture the queen in chess; captured the liberal vote.
   3. To attract and hold: tales of adventure that capture the imagination.
   4. To succeed in preserving in lasting form: capture a likeness in a painting.

NOUN:

   1. The act of catching, taking, or winning, as by force or skill.
   2. One that has been seized, caught, or won; a catch or prize.
   3. Physics The phenomenon in which an atom or a nucleus absorbs a subatomic particle, often with the subsequent emission of radiation.
I see words like "control" do you control your camera?.if so "capture Image" could be used smile !


#4. really hits this post very well !!!

And depending on how you get your models, #1 of Noun would fit well too! tongue

Jun 22 08 10:20 am Link

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Monito -- Alan

Posts: 16524

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Mark Bugzester wrote:
I’ve been a photographer for almost 25 years. And I have to say The term “Great capture” is not a photographic term. Never has been. So why is it only used On MM ?  You don’t  capture a photograph, you take a photograph, You are hired for a photographic shooting. You capture a mouse a lion a fish.  Not a photograph.

You capture the light, i.e. record an impression and an expression.

You capture a decisive moment in time.

You capture a mood with a photograph.

Do your research first.  You will find that "capture" has a long and voluminous association wth making photographs.  Even if you have not learned that in 25 years, you could find it in seconds on the internet, but we forgive you if you are not used to modern technology.

Your rant is nonsense, not the least of which because you propose using an even worse alternative wording.  You don't shoot a model since murder is against the law.  You are not a hitman, or if you are, I suggest you seek alternative employment.  I don't know why you think such a violent and aggressive term as "shooting" is preferred to the more humane term "capturing".

Further, your orientation of "taking" photographs is not the most productive of the best results.  The masters of the art of photography make photographs by using the entire process.

Jun 22 08 10:51 am Link

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PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 4606

Jacksonville, Florida, US

DarkPhotographyDesigns wrote:

And depending on how you get your models, #1 of Noun would fit well too! tongue

LOL...so true .....hehe, I better let that last one out of the dungeon tongue

Jun 22 08 10:56 am Link

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PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

It's deja vu all over again.

Jun 22 08 11:14 am Link

Photographer

Brad Gowan

Posts: 155

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

You're not the boss of me.  Capture Capture Capture tongue

Jun 22 08 11:16 am Link

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PaDigitalPhoto2008

Posts: 196

CHADDS FORD, Pennsylvania, US

You 'capture' a moment in time.
Ive been a photographer 30 years and Ive heard people say this on occasion, but like you say, its way overused on MM.
Its like theres a handbook they hand out when you join MM with 10 words you can use if you dont know what you;re trying to say in your own words:
* Capture
* Stunning( seriously...count up how many times this is thrown around)
* great form
* great lighting( usually said in a shadowy park with hot spots all over the models face
*brilliant

it goes on and on smile

Jun 22 08 11:20 am Link

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Mortonovich

Posts: 6209

San Diego, California, US

Man, there's this one dude in New York . . . what's his name? GBH . . . Graham Cracker  . . .
Jimmy Something . . . crap, I can't remember.

But anyway, THAT guy does some seriously good captures. I mean really top notch shit!

Jun 22 08 11:27 am Link

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Beach

Posts: 4062

Charleston, South Carolina, US

PaDigitalPhoto2008 wrote:
You 'capture' a moment in time.
Ive been a photographer 30 years and Ive heard people say this on occasion, but like you say, its way overused on MM.
Its like theres a handbook they hand out when you join MM with 10 words you can use if you dont know what you;re trying to say in your own words:
* Capture
* Stunning( seriously...count up how many times this is thrown around)
* great form
* great lighting( usually said in a shadowy park with hot spots all over the models face
*brilliant

it goes on and on smile

and pretty much everything can be translated as, " thank you for showing me your nipples"

Jun 22 08 11:29 am Link

Photographer

Brad Gowan

Posts: 155

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

(in nerdy voice) "Oh, that is a fantastic digital image you just sampled!  The pixel chroma saturation is above average!"

Jun 22 08 11:35 am Link

Photographer

PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 4606

Jacksonville, Florida, US

PaDigitalPhoto2008 wrote:
You 'capture' a moment in time.
Ive been a photographer 30 years and Ive heard people say this on occasion, but like you say, its way overused on MM.
Its like theres a handbook they hand out when you join MM with 10 words you can use if you dont know what you;re trying to say in your own words:
* Capture
* Stunning( seriously...count up how many times this is thrown around)
* great form
* great lighting( usually said in a shadowy park with hot spots all over the models face
*brilliant

it goes on and on smile

again dictionary is our friend !
Stunning.....
    

stun�ning �audio� (stnng) KEY �

ADJECTIVE:

   1. Causing or capable of causing emotional shock or loss of consciousness.
   2. Of a strikingly attractive appearance.
   , # 2 seems to describe some models, or photographers, MUAs, Etc. works and or looks smile

Jun 22 08 11:37 am Link

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Michael Siu

Posts: 1225

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

Monito -- Alan wrote:

You capture the light, i.e. record an impression and an expression.

You capture a decisive moment in time.

You capture a mood with a photograph.

Do your research first.  You will find that "capture" has a long and voluminous association wth making photographs.  Even if you have not learned that in 25 years, you could find it in seconds on the internet, but we forgive you if you are not used to modern technology.

Your rant is nonsense, not the least of which because you propose using an even worse alternative wording.  You don't shoot a model since murder is against the law.  You are not a hitman, or if you are, I suggest you seek alternative employment.  I don't know why you think such a violent and aggressive term as "shooting" is preferred to the more humane term "capturing".

Further, your orientation of "taking" photographs is not the most productive of the best results.  The masters of the art of photography make photographs by using the entire process.

I couldn't have said it better myself.  Strong argument.

Jun 22 08 11:39 am Link

Photographer

Mark Bugzester

Posts: 26

New York, New York, US

Monito -- Alan wrote:

You capture the light, i.e. record an impression and an expression.

You capture a decisive moment in time.

You capture a mood with a photograph.

Do your research first.  You will find that "capture" has a long and voluminous association wth making photographs.  Even if you have not learned that in 25 years, you could find it in seconds on the internet, but we forgive you if you are not used to modern technology.

Your rant is nonsense, not the least of which because you propose using an even worse alternative wording.  You don't shoot a model since murder is against the law.  You are not a hitman, or if you are, I suggest you seek alternative employment.  I don't know why you think such a violent and aggressive term as "shooting" is preferred to the more humane term "capturing".

Further, your orientation of "taking" photographs is not the most productive of the best results.  The masters of the art of photography make photographs by using the entire process.

Jun 22 08 02:18 pm Link

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D. Brian Nelson

Posts: 5477

Rapid City, South Dakota, US

Yeah, I hate "great capture" too.  And "TFP" and all the rest of the interweb/digipic vocabulary.  They say a lot about the people using the words.  They are new to photography, haven't actually studied it (or have, and decided to go with the flow anyway), and they are generally lazy.

Nevertheless, the words are now part of commonly used language and can't be shoved back under the carpet, so despite the protests of us old guys, they will remain.

I usually delete comments and tags that use those words, unless they show better than awful insight elsewhere.

-Don

Jun 22 08 02:33 pm Link

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Mark Bugzester

Posts: 26

New York, New York, US

Words.......
Quantify your relationship with your camera and the end result.  This is your point of view, and your means of communication in this medium called Photography. Its visual.
Capture and captured .Are....Just words.. Which are so over used on MM. And some times out of context. 
  Show me your brilliance. Your mastery of your craft..  And my comment would
never be “great capture”

Jun 22 08 02:42 pm Link

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ShawnAlexanderThompson

Posts: 198

Lake Mary, Florida, US

Mark Bugzester wrote:
I’ve been a photographer for almost 25 years. And I have to say The term
“Great capture” is not a photographic term. Never has been. So why is it only used On MM ?  You don’t  capture a photograph, you take a photograph, You are hired for a photographic shooting. You capture a mouse a lion a fish.
Not a photograph.

Let me preface with the fact that you've obviously been doing this for...well, almost longer than I've even been alive, so for that reason alone I hope my comments will not fall on deaf ears...

I've alway heard the term "capture" in collection with "the mood", "the moment", or "the emotion", so while I normally would't praise a (not slamming them here) JC Penny studio portrait with "hey nice capture", I can see where if the spirit of the picture was really felt, where you can almost FEEL what the participants of the image are feeling, that you are in essence, capturing the photo (i.e. the moment).  I mean, in all techical actuality, you are really "capturing" light to display an image.

Like in this image here:

https://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080425/23/48129fa0e238f.jpg

one could say, "nice picture", or if you honestly believed that you were able to truly get in touch with the children in the image, to feel what they must be feeling as they looked out into the vastness that is the ocean, you might say the photographer (myself in this case) "captured the feeling in the image".  (or you could just say, "great, another hack dad boring us with pictures of his kids"). lol

But being in the PC industry, I can attest to the fact that we've added a host of words to the English lexicon that I believe should never have formally materialized into what is, our language...but that's evolution I guess...

Best wishes and fortunes for you all,
Shawn

Jun 22 08 02:47 pm Link

Photographer

S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24376

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Mark Bugzester wrote:
You don’t  capture a photograph, you take a photograph,

some photographers capture moments in time....

and just cause you haven't heard it, doesnt mean its not a term used in the industry..i've heard it as long as i have been shooting...

Jun 22 08 02:49 pm Link

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Caspers Creations

Posts: 11409

Kansas City, Missouri, US

I accept the term "capture" but think that the term is more suitable for event, sports, nature photography/video.

Being in the right place at the right time.  Having your equipment ready to "capture" the moment as it happens in front of you.
Take for example the following images.
https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/79-104/Readings/Gallery/Gallery1/HWC1032.jpg
https://peking.org/images/img/tianamen-square-china.jpg
https://ramblingsofpassion.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/051201_tiananmen-square_ex.jpg
https://www2.hawaii.edu/~chongdav/tiananmen%20square%20widener.jpeg

Different angles, different equipment, same event.  They all tell the same story, but IMHO, some are just images and others I would consider a great capture of the moment.

Another example would be in Nature photography.
A picture of Lightning:
https://lonewolf-online.net/photos/lightning/lightning-storm-photography-1.jpg
A great capture of lightning:
https://iuplanet.com/forum/attachments/what/1467d1210282624-volcano-erupts-lightning-storm-1.jpg


I do think that images can be "captured" in model photography as well, just maybe not as often as the Tags and comments of MM would suggest.

Jun 22 08 03:07 pm Link

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EdBPhotography

Posts: 7741

Torrance, California, US

Exactly, you capture a moment in time.  That is a great thing and an appropriate term.

Jun 22 08 03:14 pm Link

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Mark Bugzester

Posts: 26

New York, New York, US

The term “great capture” in the context used  is a meaningless term.
But used in this way  “you capture a moment in time.” is usually  inspiring.
Not wow hey Great capture...da.

Jun 22 08 03:30 pm Link

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Monito -- Alan

Posts: 16524

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Another reason photographers use the term "capture" and the phrase "great capture" is to provide variety of expression so that they aren't using "pic" or "photo" or "image" or "shot" all the time.

Jun 22 08 03:34 pm Link

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Monito -- Alan

Posts: 16524

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Mark Bugzester wrote:
You don’t  capture a photograph, you take a photograph,

You can set up a straw man and knock it down.  Nobody is suggesting you "capture a photograph", except when referring to museum thieves, perhaps.  You capture a moment, light, a mood, a vision, etc. and present it as a photograph.

When people say "great capture", they are complimenting the photographer on timing or the moment or the mood or the vision, just as they might say "great lighting" or "great pose".  If you want to make another rant you can start one to say "great pose" is not a photographic term because nobody poses a photograph, you photograph a pose, but it would be just as silly a rant.

Jun 22 08 03:40 pm Link

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Kincaid Blackwood

Posts: 23492

Los Angeles, California, US

People say that stupid shit all the time.  I hate the phrase.


Of course, for the many people who don't know what they're doing behind the camera, "sprayin'-&-prayin'" for a good shot as they push the shutter button rapid-fire... for them perhaps it is akin to capturing some elusive unicorn.  When they finally do stumble upon a halfway decent photo, they feel like they've "captured" it.  Whew!!  Finally... success!!

So when they come across those of us who deliberately and methodically orchestrate the compositions in our photographs, people whose photographic vision is not governed wholly be the accidental, the completely surprising or "oops, I fucked-up & lucked-out"... well, when they encounter people like us they just can't wrap their little pea brains around the notion that we do what we do on purpose. 

As such, they pay us the highest compliment that they know.  "Way to capture that unicorn, pal!  I hope to find one myself one day!"

Jun 22 08 03:42 pm Link

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Sophistocles

Posts: 21320

Seattle, Washington, US

I've been alive for just over 40 years, and I've never met anyone with the name, "Bugzester."

Perhaps you mean "Bugster?" That would be more appropriate, I think.

Change your name.

Jun 22 08 03:42 pm Link

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Odin Photo

Posts: 1462

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

Brad Gowan wrote:
You're not the boss of me.  Capture Capture Capture tongue

HA ha ha wink

Jun 22 08 03:44 pm Link

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Playthings

Posts: 912

Montreal, Wisconsin, US

You capture the moment

Jun 22 08 03:49 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Bugzester

Posts: 26

New York, New York, US

Walk  into any ad agency, magazine, photo editor office or Reps office, “great capture”  is never a term used on a professional level You will never hear it. ...... in books yes  "he captured the moment yes. But not The term  “Great capture”  its mostly used by Amateurs and photo clubs......o yea and MM.  Check it out.

Jun 22 08 03:49 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Bugzester

Posts: 26

New York, New York, US

Sophistocles wrote:
I've been alive for just over 40 years, and I've never met anyone with the name, "Bugzester."

Perhaps you mean "Bugster?" That would be more appropriate, I think.

Change your name.

Jun 22 08 03:55 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Bugzester

Posts: 26

New York, New York, US

thank you. Mr.Sophistocles. hmm Strange name you got.  You would have heard it a bit more. But a group in Germany about 1940 wiped out most of the family.

Jun 22 08 04:00 pm Link

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LongWindFPV Visuals

Posts: 7052

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Tell someone you want to take their picture, and they'll call you a thief.

You can't even blame the educational system for that slight oversight in terms.

Jun 22 08 04:03 pm Link

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Dante

Posts: 72

Nasinu, Central, Fiji Islands

Who really cares...  seriously.

I mean anyone thats been in "the business" has enough experience to realize MM is made up of all types of photographers with varying levels of experience.   Why someone that is a professional photographer (with years of experience) would care who uses the term "capture" baffles me.

Jun 22 08 04:10 pm Link

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Monito -- Alan

Posts: 16524

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Mark Bugzester wrote:
Walk  into any ad agency, magazine, photo editor office or Reps office, “great capture”  is never a term used on a professional level You will never hear it. ...... in books yes  "he captured the moment yes. But not The term  “Great capture”  its mostly used by Amateurs and photo clubs......o yea and MM.  Check it out.

I bet you'll hear it more often than "great port", or "port", which I see frequently on MM.  Perhaps even now you are plotting a rant about that one, which would actually be a more useful rant.

Jun 22 08 04:14 pm Link

Photographer

Michael R Kihn Studios

Posts: 2559

Erie, Pennsylvania, US

I think the OP looks like he had his head buried in the sand to long or he is very bored or
just wants to argue with someone. The word capture in photography has been used
decades. I have read about it's use in many books including books about Ansel Adams and many other world class photographers.
To take or capture a picture, photograph, or image all means the same thing
Capture is not just a MM or amateur thing but stupid rants are

Jun 22 08 04:18 pm Link

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PaDigitalPhoto2008

Posts: 196

CHADDS FORD, Pennsylvania, US

I think the main gripe here is no one ever actually critiques or comments/compliments on a photo completely or intelligently. ALl they leave as a comment is:
"Nice Capture"
"Nice Form"
"Amazing Lighting"
" great BOKEH"

It's never " Hey I like the leading lines that take you from the models eyes to the distant horizon. Do you think if you had moved ___ over a bit and did ___ that it might create more of an impact?"....or "Nice location, but you have a telephone poll growing out of the models head".
Something that makes you think and improve for the next time and LEARN!!!

Oh, and I really can't stand that nobody seems to know the difference between "thEn" and "thAn" anymore. Take a look around and see wink

Jun 22 08 05:14 pm Link