Forums > Photography Talk > Using Grids ( Honeycombs) v Not Using Them

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Amethyst Photography

Posts: 4

Billingham, England, United Kingdom

So far I have not had any need to use grids (honeycomb) in my studio and was wondering if any one had identical photographs of a subject, preferably a model, using a grid compared to a softbox or similar.

I've seen lots of images taken where a grid was used, but never anything to compare it againt, I mean we can use dodge and burn if need be.

Is it worth me acquiring them ?

Jan 19 09 09:20 am Link

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Brian Morris Photography

Posts: 20901

Los Angeles, California, US

It will expand your techniques!

Jan 19 09 09:43 am Link

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Omkaar Kotedia

Posts: 171

London, England, United Kingdom

Use when you want to control light spill or want to highlight a narrower section of a subject.

2nd photo on my profile is using grids and so are the Nike shots.

Jan 19 09 09:51 am Link

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Eduardo Frances

Posts: 3227

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

Amethyst Photography wrote:
So far I have not had any need to use grids (honeycomb) in my studio and was wondering if any one had identical photographs of a subject, preferably a model, using a grid compared to a softbox or similar.

I've seen lots of images taken where a grid was used, but never anything to compare it againt, I mean we can use dodge and burn if need be.

Is it worth me acquiring them ?

Wouldn't it be better to use the grids instead of using your time doing the dodge and burn? I mean grids are installed in less than 30 seconds on your softbox, which isn't the same amount of time for an image that you have to dodge and burn in post processing. tongue.

Jan 19 09 09:54 am Link

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Phil Drinkwater

Posts: 4814

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

Definitely. It changes the quality of light as well as controlling spill. If it's a look you want, dodge and burn would take time.

Jan 19 09 10:05 am Link

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Kelvin Hammond

Posts: 17397

Billings, Montana, US

The two best applications of gridspots are:

1- highlighting a small portion of your subject
2- backlighting without having to use gobo's to block spill (edge-lighting models)

Case in point: I just shot nudes of a pregnant white girl with her black husband. It's pretty hard to light a white face and a very dark face with a single light. By using a grid spot on him, I was able to give his skin a fighting chance in post. Without it, I could barely see him. Digital exposure has to be based on the highlights.

Another application for grids is to light the background, or to light up some portion of the background/scene.

To me, they are indispensable.

Jan 19 09 11:09 am Link

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Hector Fernandez

Posts: 1152

Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico

http://www.bbosasi.com/shop/goods/goods … =002003001

Check the Beethoven bust; self explanatory, if you like the contrast and the light control you should get grids.

Jan 19 09 11:13 am Link

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MelissaMariePhotography

Posts: 1987

Clearwater, Florida, US

I don't have before photos but it's basically much more contrasty, tight knight light, compared to soft wide spread light

https://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081004/20/48e810292a6c0_m.jpg

two grids

https://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080127/19/479d2760e5399_m.jpg

two grids

https://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080930/15/48e27ad05f24b_m.jpg

two grids

Jan 19 09 11:19 am Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Sorry, I don't have before & after (or with & without) examples for you, but I do use grids often.  I think of them as a poor substitute for a focusing spotlight -- it can provide a hot spot on your subject with a bit of a fall off (depending on the size of the grid being used).

Here's an example:

https://www.looknseephoto.com/oregon/2007/kg01/kg01d0051.jpg

Look at the background -- there's a grid on the spotlight that lit the background behind the small of the model's back.  If there wasn't a grid there, the whole background would have been flooded with light.

I've also used barn doors -- they are useful, too, but they just clip the light, often with a hard edge.  The grids kinda focuses the light into a hot spot.

Jan 19 09 11:47 am Link

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stevejonesimages

Posts: 591

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

I couldn't shoot without grids smile

As many people have said above, it's possible to do similar with a CLOSE softbox ... and a bit of vignetting or similar, in Photoshop but it's harder work!

Jan 19 09 12:01 pm Link

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Steven Anthony

Posts: 19455

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Shot at 2:00PM against a white background, the opposite wall is a big window...
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/080731/22/4892777693884_m.jpg

Jan 19 09 12:13 pm Link

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Frame O Mind

Posts: 322

Albany, Georgia, US

Sorry for the double post, damn database issues.

Jan 19 09 12:49 pm Link

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Frame O Mind

Posts: 322

Albany, Georgia, US

Heres one with a grid
https://gallery.photo.net/photo/7225367-lg.jpg

and one without, the strobe was aimed towards the ceiling to even out the light.
https://gallery.photo.net/photo/7225379-lg.jpg

Jan 19 09 12:52 pm Link

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stevejonesimages

Posts: 591

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

A perfect illustration above ...

Grids/honeycombs/eggcrates are the way to go .. but I really shouldn't be telling you that, it's supposed to be one of those 'in' industry secrets wink

Jan 19 09 01:14 pm Link

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Mortonovich

Posts: 6209

San Diego, California, US

Amethyst Photography wrote:
So far I have not had any need to use grids (honeycomb) in my studio and was wondering if any one had identical photographs of a subject, preferably a model, using a grid compared to a softbox or similar.

I've seen lots of images taken where a grid was used, but never anything to compare it againt, I mean we can use dodge and burn if need be.

Is it worth me acquiring them ?

This really isn't the right way to think about it. It's not a "Before and After" type of thing; it's a tool that is chosen to control where you want to put the light in a particular situation and situations will vary so it's not always "use a grid" or "use a beauty dish" or whatever.

That having been said, learning where you want to put the light and where you don't want the light are key. They are a great tool and you'd be wise to at least rent some for the day and play with them. And no, dodging and burning are not really comparable; very different looks.

Jan 19 09 02:03 pm Link