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Photographer

Chicchowmein

Posts: 14585

Palm Beach, Florida, US

Thomas DelPorte wrote:

I saw the title and though that the horse was nude... funny video!

and the horse did not even trot much less gallop in the video

Feb 27 10 09:10 pm Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

DarioImpiniPhotography wrote:
Some time ago there was a thread where someone was interested in doing a shot like this and was heavily dissuaded because of the "dangers" of the concept -- crazy horse, irritation, etc.

This video seems to indicate otherwise: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=517_1236218097

I'd like to hear commentary on this because it sucks to be discouraged from doing something through too much caution.  Someone actually asked me about doing a shoot like that and I mentioned the info on that thread to them.  Watching this video, I feel stupid now.

Dario, StephyC is your girl, and she lives right up the road from you.  And yes, she's an experienced rider with her own horses......we got plenty of shots with her on the horse.

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080816/15/48a7268f6d98c_m.jpg

Feb 27 10 09:39 pm Link

Model

Gypsy Logan

Posts: 5083

King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, US

Huntli Images wrote:
When I rode, I remember how irritating horse sweat was to my skin.  I quickly learned not to ride in shorts.  Don't want to imagine the itch the rider might get riding nude.

x2

I always needed jeans or chaps...I hated riding in shorts!

Feb 27 10 09:46 pm Link

Photographer

Chicchowmein

Posts: 14585

Palm Beach, Florida, US

gypsyfashionista wrote:

x2

I always needed jeans or chaps...I hated riding in shorts!

down here we use half chaps ( it gets so darn hot -- and I hate the rubs I get on the inside of my legs without them. And pretty damn hot most of the year to ride with boots

Feb 27 10 10:27 pm Link

Photographer

AVD AlphaDuctions

Posts: 10747

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Christine Rose wrote:

I would not do it. A lot would depend on how experienced the rider is and how smooth the horse is. I have no desire to ride a horse naked bareback.

I was of course joking.  big_smile
I don't know any rider around here who would ride without a helmet let alone without clothes (or admit to it once they sobered up)

Feb 28 10 12:02 am Link

Photographer

Crystallinephoto

Posts: 784

Hudson, Wisconsin, US

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

I was of course joking.  big_smile
I don't know any rider around here who would ride without a helmet let alone without clothes (or admit to it once they sobered up)

Ah come on, Sarah loved riding in the buff.
18+ Proof: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/ … graphy.jpg

Feb 28 10 05:49 am Link

Photographer

steve simmons

Posts: 418

Saint Anthony, Idaho, US

Poses said

"Surprised no one has mentioned what happened to Susie yet..."

I was referring to her when I said

"About a year ago there was a model on MM who got on a barely broke horse she did not know,. it bolted and she did not know how to stop it, and got hurt. I do not want to see anyone ever get hurt on a horse but what she did was stupid.
I hope no one else makes this mistake."

She fancied herself as a better rider than she actually is. Too many people make this mistake. And they did not have a good handler for the horse either.

I have photographed people and horses perhaps 50 times without any major problem but I follow the precautions I listed in my post above and I use my own horses.

Feb 28 10 06:30 am Link

Photographer

Starburst Photography

Posts: 959

Oshawa, Ontario, Canada

Great video!

thanks for sharing.

WOnderful concept.

My dream is to capture a nude model on a horse.

Feb 28 10 06:50 am Link

Photographer

Chicchowmein

Posts: 14585

Palm Beach, Florida, US

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

I was of course joking.  big_smile
I don't know any rider around here who would ride without a helmet let alone without clothes (or admit to it once they sobered up)

Ridden without a helmet many times. Thankfully when I got thrown at a full gallop onto shellrock I was wearing  one. I fractured my pelvis in two places. I live in Wellington -- home of the US Open and the Winter Equestrian capital of the US -- once a year or so a very experienced trainer, rider or polo player dies in a horse related accident.Even experienced riders get hurt -- if you want to attempt a bareback shot at anything more than a walk you better have the right horse and an experienced rider.

Feb 28 10 08:21 am Link

Photographer

MartinImages

Posts: 3872

Los Angeles, California, US

Christine Rose wrote:
No way would I let anyone ride in my saddle w/ no undies.

I'm not touching that line.  No way.  tongue

B

Feb 28 10 08:23 am Link

Photographer

Chicchowmein

Posts: 14585

Palm Beach, Florida, US

CC Images wrote:

Ah come on, Sarah loved riding in the buff.
18+ Proof: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/ … graphy.jpg

she is gigging the horse in the flanks - -do that on the wrong horse and she would be off.

Feb 28 10 08:23 am Link

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LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

Christine Rose wrote:

Bareback means no saddle.

No way would I let anyone ride in my saddle w/ no undies.

No thanx.

that would be gross

Feb 28 10 08:25 am Link

Photographer

AVD AlphaDuctions

Posts: 10747

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Christine Rose wrote:

she is gigging the horse in the flanks - -do that on the wrong horse and she would be off.

not to mention the fact that she is posing and not riding.  If that horse is moving in that pic it's slower than my kids doing chores big_smile

Feb 28 10 10:21 am Link

Model

Ms Jenni

Posts: 218

Springfield, Colorado, US

I have been riding horses for 16 years. I use to train and show professionally. And then one day on a trail ride, a mare flipped over on her rider - when I got off of my horse to catch her horse [the rider was amazingly okay], the mare decided that once I grabbed her reins, to shove me on the ground and trample me.

The mare stepped on both my hips, my stomach, and kicked me in the head.. luckily I had a helmet on.

I had to give up training and showing as my profession. I now have a very bad back, and my right hip occasionally locks up on me.

This happened about 3 1/2 years ago. I can only ride during the warmer months, because my back can't handle the stress and tension really cold weather causes.

SO, I feel pairing a model who isn't experienced with horses is a bad idea if you want a shot with them ON the horse. You a running a 50/50 chance of someone getting hurt. And as my accident shows, you don't even have to be on the horse to get really hurt.

Feb 28 10 10:37 am Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

Jenni Conner wrote:
I have been riding horses for 16 years. I use to train and show professionally. And then one day on a trail ride, a mare flipped over on her rider - when I got off of my horse to catch her horse [the rider was amazingly okay], the mare decided that once I grabbed her reins, to shove me on the ground and trample me.

The mare stepped on both my hips, my stomach, and kicked me in the head.. luckily I had a helmet on.

I had to give up training and showing as my profession. I now have a very bad back, and my right hip occasionally locks up on me.

This happened about 3 1/2 years ago. I can only ride during the warmer months, because my back can't handle the stress and tension really cold weather causes.

SO, I feel pairing a model who isn't experienced with horses is a bad idea if you want a shot with them ON the horse. You a running a 50/50 chance of someone getting hurt. And as my accident shows, you don't even have to be on the horse to get really hurt.

So you are saying that 50% of the people who go to stables for the first time get hurt?

Feb 28 10 10:54 am Link

Photographer

AVD AlphaDuctions

Posts: 10747

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Chris Keeling wrote:

So you are saying that 50% of the people who go to stables for the first time get hurt?

lol no...each time someone goes to a stable theres a 50% chance of getting hurt
big_smile
but you know what they were sayin'

Feb 28 10 11:03 am Link

Model

Ms Jenni

Posts: 218

Springfield, Colorado, US

Chris Keeling wrote:
So you are saying that 50% of the people who go to stables for the first time get hurt?

I'm saying putting someone on a horse who isn't experienced with them, you're running a risk. Horses are flight animals, and it doesn't take much with some horses for them to react to something they're unsure of. And an unexperienced person would more than likely end up on the ground and possibly injured, rather than knowing how to handle the situation.

Feb 28 10 11:03 am Link

Photographer

BTHPhoto

Posts: 6985

Fairbanks, Alaska, US

DarioImpiniPhotography wrote:
Some time ago there was a thread where someone was interested in doing a shot like this and was heavily dissuaded because of the "dangers" of the concept -- crazy horse, irritation, etc.

This video seems to indicate otherwise: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=517_1236218097

I'd like to hear commentary on this because it sucks to be discouraged from doing something through too much caution.  Someone actually asked me about doing a shoot like that and I mentioned the info on that thread to them.  Watching this video, I feel stupid now.

As I recall, that thread was about taking an inexperienced (in horse terms) model and putting her bareback on a spirited horse and asking her to gallop.  I don't recall anyone saying that shooting a nude model on a horse was inherently dangerous.  I recall people saying that the mix of inexperience and difficult activity was dangerous.

Feb 28 10 11:08 am Link

Model

Dekilah

Posts: 5236

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I actually attempted a shoot with a horse. I explained and the photographer agreed that I did not want to actually ride the horse. I have quite a bit of experience handling horses on the ground (I used to work with disabled children and was one of the most trusted handlers), but I was never given the opportunity to really learn to ride. Therefore I said I was comfortable posing near the horse or sitting or laying on it, but not actually riding while the horse was moving. I was told the handler was very good and he was a trainer, which is exactly what the man said upon our arrival.

The shoot did not work out for various reasons, the main one being the horse refused to stand still. It was an older horse, asthmatic, and very laid back. He just wouldn't stand. The camera didn't bother him, he didn't mind me on his back, didn't mind the people around him, all that was fine, he just wouldn't stand still. It was a total waste of time for all involved because the horse wasn't a good fit for the type of shoot.

I agree that it is important that the model isn't scared of the horse and if the horse will actually be ridden, then yes, the model should be somewhat of a rider, but if the model is comfortable, I see no reason the model can't pose sitting or otherwise on a standing horse. What is really important is a calm horse and a good handler. And as with any shoot everyone needs to be able to communicate.

I hope I will get another chance to shoot with horses and that it will go much better this time around.

Feb 28 10 06:22 pm Link

Photographer

steve simmons

Posts: 418

Saint Anthony, Idaho, US

" It was an older horse, asthmatic, and very laid back. He just wouldn't stand. "

This description does not make any sense at all - a laid back horse that won't stand still?????. This is why, ahead of time, you ask to see photos of the horse with people to get an idea of its temperment.

Feb 28 10 07:26 pm Link

Model

OdetteDespairr

Posts: 235

Columbus, Ohio, US

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/13704186

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/13753979

Did this shoot last year, i have ridden for years off and on,and worked in numerous stables, knew the photographer and knew the trainer, plus knew the horse, had 2 handlers on set.

I think its all about having someone who is comfortable riding, who is comfortable handling the horse, and who has a relaxed confident attitude.  If you have a model who is uncomfortable the horse will sense that point blank.  I would NEVER go faster than a walk doing this.  The horse was comfortable being photographed and comfortable with the people around.

All in all it was a fun fun shoot, i always wanted to be Lady Godiva.

Dettie

Feb 28 10 07:38 pm Link

Model

Dekilah

Posts: 5236

Dearborn, Michigan, US

steve simmons wrote:
" It was an older horse, asthmatic, and very laid back. He just wouldn't stand. "

This description does not make any sense at all - a laid back horse that won't stand still?????. This is why, ahead of time, you ask to see photos of the horse with people to get an idea of its temperment.

Well, laid back doesn't mean totally lifeless. He just wanted to walk back to the pasture, I guess. As soon as the handler would drop the lead, he'd start walking slowly. This particular situation was... interesting. If I went into all the details I'd be accused of another novel-sized post. Let's just say it involved a handler who assumed he could have been the Marlboro man, dragging me through a small briar infested forest, and a giant case of miscommunication by a horse "trainer" to a photographer who didn't know much about horses. Sometimes the situation seems perfectly fine until you're actually in the middle of it and stuff you thought was already taken care of by capable people wasn't. I politely informed everyone involved that I didn't think it was working and it might be better to try again another time.

And as for my description... you'd have to have been there to understand I guess. But here we are in a candid moment. Sadly, my dress never came off.

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/091223/19/4b32def68d439_m.jpg

EDIT: removed a typo... that's what I get for typing while petting my dog

Feb 28 10 07:45 pm Link

Photographer

steve simmons

Posts: 418

Saint Anthony, Idaho, US

To Odette

your photos with horses are some of my favorite!!

and are proof it can work

Feb 28 10 07:51 pm Link

Model

Faith EnFire

Posts: 13514

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US

I just finished a shoot with a horse last month. I've ridden off and on since sixth grade and helped train some of the green horses.
Even the most laid back horse can turn. When I was actively riding, Willy was a "bombproof" horse. I was holding him, talking to another rider when he knocked me over, stepped on my back and made a run for it. Nearly, ran over my mother. Still, don't know why

With proper prep and caution, a horse shoot is possible but I don't think I'd ever ride nude bareback. blech

Mar 01 10 03:46 am Link

Photographer

Crimson Clover

Posts: 611

Nuevo, California, US

OdetteDespairr wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/13704186

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/13753979

Did this shoot last year, i have ridden for years off and on,and worked in numerous stables, knew the photographer and knew the trainer, plus knew the horse, had 2 handlers on set.

I think its all about having someone who is comfortable riding, who is comfortable handling the horse, and who has a relaxed confident attitude.  If you have a model who is uncomfortable the horse will sense that point blank.  I would NEVER go faster than a walk doing this.  The horse was comfortable being photographed and comfortable with the people around.

All in all it was a fun fun shoot, i always wanted to be Lady Godiva.

Dettie

Really lovely images - A Halflinger? 

They are a pretty laid back breed anyway -  I'm hoping to do a shoot this spring in the desert wildflowers with a Halflinger

Mar 01 10 08:35 am Link