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Goth Tea party and shoot April 11 North San Diego
Makeup Artist
Naiyana
Posts: 1432
Costa Mesa, California, US
Nancy Wishard wrote:
John and I will be there, it happens to be our only free weekend day in April, so it is meant to be! Will send paypal in advance~* WOWOWO!!!
*doing the happy dane*
Now I get to bite someone!!!! ...in a romantic fairy tale way......
Photographer
C Alexander
Posts: 1357
Murrieta, California, US
Okay updates are coming
I'm going to be busy the next few days
I need to find models for a energy convention on next week and shoot and blah blah blah
Model
Dollface Janel
Posts: 1431
Vista, California, US
Ah, I'm going out of town that Day!  back home for a week. I'm back, so keep me informed of more events please!  xoxoxox Janel
Photographer
Julie Blair
Posts: 53
Raleigh, North Carolina, US
Naiyana wrote:
She can play  Thanks for the warning about the biting Craig! LOL.
I am playful...can't say as I have ever been bitten!
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Julie Blair wrote:
Thanks for the warning about the biting Craig! LOL.
I am playful...can't say as I have ever been bitten! Yeah, you have to be careful. Some of us *coughnaiyanacough* get a little excited and overzealous and end up biting everyone. lol. You should see the cupcakes she wants to bring tho. Adorable.
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Macabri
Posts: 622
Los Angeles, California, US
Stormie Psy wrote:
Yeah, you have to be careful. Some of us *coughnaiyanacough* get a little excited and overzealous and end up biting everyone. lol. You should see the cupcakes she wants to bring tho. Adorable. I, on the other hand, have excellent self control...
...when I feel like it.
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Macabri wrote:
I, on the other hand, have excellent self control...
...when I feel like it. I tend to be just a little unpredictable. It tends to go by my mood at that millisecond. lol
Photographer
C Alexander
Posts: 1357
Murrieta, California, US
Stormie Psy wrote:
I tend to be just a little unpredictable. It tends to go by my mood at that millisecond. lol Sure you do
Model
Macabri
Posts: 622
Los Angeles, California, US
Jason Holmes Photo wrote:
sounds awesome  It will be. You should come play.
Photographer
Rp-photo
Posts: 42711
Houston, Texas, US
Goth tea party?
Sounds very Alice in Wonderland!
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
rp_photo wrote:
Goth tea party?
Sounds very Alice in Wonderland! It can be! If you're willing to be the Door Mouse
Model
au revoir
Posts: 5366
New York, New York, US
Oh that is a bloody COOL idea! (No, I won't be there--I'm in NY, unfortunately) Just thought I'd pop in and comment on the awesomeness of an idea that is the Goth Tea Party--rock the hell on!
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Adah Hagen wrote:
Oh that is a bloody COOL idea! (No, I won't be there--I'm in NY, unfortunately) Just thought I'd pop in and comment on the awesomeness of an idea that is the Goth Tea Party--rock the hell on! Well thank you Too bad for us you live back east. Would have loved to had you join us
Model
sephirot
Posts: 217
El Cajon, California, US
Stormie Psy wrote:
Yeah, you have to be careful. Some of us *coughnaiyanacough* get a little excited and overzealous and end up biting everyone. lol. You should see the cupcakes she wants to bring tho. Adorable. I DO NOT!!!!
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John Wishard
Posts: 1896
Fallbrook, California, US
Naiyana wrote:
WOWOWO!!!
*doing the happy dane*
Now I get to bite someone!!!! ...in a romantic fairy tale way...... Don't forget me...you and I have some unfinished business in front of my lens!
Model
Macabri
Posts: 622
Los Angeles, California, US
*Sharpens her fangs in anticipation of the shoot*
Model
Macabri
Posts: 622
Los Angeles, California, US
Whoops, asked a question that could have been answered looking at the first page.
Photographer
C Alexander
Posts: 1357
Murrieta, California, US
Updating in the next hour
Photographer
PixelPerfectImages
Posts: 4
Oceanside, California, US
I'm still waiting for someone to clue me in as to why? I seriously would like to know. If there is no logical answer, or simply "that's the way it's always been" fine, I would just like to know. Anyone??? PixelPerfectImages wrote:
A Photographer's Perspective:
I receive many similar requests like this and I would love to come, but I am really curious as to why ONLY photographers must pay? Aren't we all in this together? Don't models and MUA's receive OUR photos for their portfolios? If we (photographers) have to pay, then the models and MUA's should have to pay us to get photos for their portfolios. Do you see where I am coming from? If everyone shared the cost equally it would be fair.
Photographer's show up with tens of thousands of dollars in equipment and lighting etc.... we have without a doubt the most time and money invested in our craft, yet we are singled out to have to foot the bill for these photo shoots.
If there is something I am missing, please fill me in. I will listen to any reasonable argument.
Regards,
Dan
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
PixelPerfectImages wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to clue me in as to why? I seriously would like to know. If there is no logical answer, or simply "that's the way it's always been" fine, I would just like to know.
Anyone???
Just out of curiosity have you posted this question on other forum event posts? Or did you just decide that this was a good one to pick on? If so you might want to look for your answer there because you will probably not get one here nor will you get an argument. Most of the people going to this have all worked together before so there is a camaraderie between us. If you don't like the way we have things set up don't go. It's that simple.
Makeup Artist
Naiyana
Posts: 1432
Costa Mesa, California, US
John Wishard wrote:
Don't forget me...you and I have some unfinished business in front of my lens! ...as mentioned I get to bite someone now...I'm not running!! Getting all the dresses ready
Model
Demonika Devour
Posts: 1903
Big Bear Lake, California, US
Hmmm stormie? Can I ask you a question about the shoot? it might sound dumb.
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Demonika Devour wrote:
Hmmm stormie? Can I ask you a question about the shoot? it might sound dumb. PM me
Model
Macabri
Posts: 622
Los Angeles, California, US
PixelPerfectImages wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to clue me in as to why? I seriously would like to know. If there is no logical answer, or simply "that's the way it's always been" fine, I would just like to know.
Anyone??? Also, just a quick note about the value I see photographers receiving from this event...
In exchange for a reasonable price; there will be at least 15 models available (including some very experienced ones) to shoot with them who will have their makeup done professionally. In addition, snacks and drinks are provided along with a versatile shooting location. The whole event has been coordinated and organized prior to the photographers showing up. This is also a good idea for photographers just looking for fresh faces and a chance to hone their skill. Overall, this seems like a rather fair deal to me.
It truly is an event.
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Macabri wrote:
Also, just a quick note about the value I see photographers receiving from this event...
In exchange for a reasonable price; there will be at least 15 models available (including some very experienced ones) to shoot with them who will have their makeup done professionally. In addition, snacks and drinks are provided along with a versatile shooting location. The whole event has been coordinated and organized prior to the photographers showing up. This is also a good idea for photographers just looking for fresh faces and a chance to hone their skill. Overall, this seems like a rather fair deal to me.
It truly is an event. Well if he would have taken the time to look at other event notices instead of wasting 2 forum posts in this one he would have seen that $50 is nothing compared to other events charging photogs up to $300 to attend. But I truly feel that because we are a small group of a specific genre that we are getting picked on by this one person. And I take offense to it.
Model
Macabri
Posts: 622
Los Angeles, California, US
Stormie Psy wrote:
Well if he would have taken the time to look at other event notices instead of wasting 2 forum posts in this one he would have seen that $50 is nothing compared to other events charging photogs up to $300 to attend. But I truly feel that because we are a small group of a specific genre that we are getting picked on by this one person. And I take offense to it. And that is completely fine. No argument from me there.
I was just defending our honour m'dear.
Photographer
C Alexander
Posts: 1357
Murrieta, California, US
PixelPerfectImages wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to clue me in as to why? I seriously would like to know. If there is no logical answer, or simply "that's the way it's always been" fine, I would just like to know.
Anyone???
Okay i was going to do this privately but okay.
The reason that there pay for this event is to pay for the space the food the drink and the clean up.
When I host an event there's is little to no profit. I want to make sure of the following things.
1) Model safety
2) Photographer satisfaction with location and the MUA's work.
3) The group happiness with the event.
4) The property owners happiness that none of the photographer trying to get a shot step on his cat. (because some don't care)
Now you ask why should photographers pay the most general reason is most models are starving and have short spans.
The reason you will pay is because your being an ass.
A public forum is not the place for the question.
If you have a problem, because someone saw your work thought it was worth inviting you. Then email them or email me. Don't try to suck the fun out of a good time because you want don't want to help pay for a location.
If you think the talent should pay fine. But you start off by getting some good makeup and taking classes for 3 year and hoping you can get a gig.
Or holding still while some ass adjust his camera for 15 minutes for one image.
But what ever you don't hit this thread again.
I have vampire i don't need a fun sucker.
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Macabri wrote:
And that is completely fine. No argument from me there.
I was just defending our honour m'dear. I know. You are awesome like that
Model
Macabri
Posts: 622
Los Angeles, California, US
Stormie Psy wrote:
I know. You are awesome like that I try.
*Goes back to sharpening her fangs*
Makeup Artist
Naiyana
Posts: 1432
Costa Mesa, California, US
C Alexander wrote:
Okay i was going to do this privately but okay.
The reason that there pay for this event is to pay for the space the food the drink and the clean up.
When I host an event there's is little to no profit. I want to make sure of the following things.
1) Model safety
2) Photographer satisfaction with location and the MUA's work.
3) The group happiness with the event.
4) The property owners happiness that none of the photographer trying to get a shot step on his cat. (because some don't care)
Now you ask why should photographers pay the most general reason is most models are starving and have short spans.
The reason you will pay is because your being an ass.
A public forum is not the place for the question.
If you have a problem, because someone saw your work thought it was worth inviting you. Then email them or email me. Don't try to suck the fun out of a good time because you want don't want to help pay for a location.
If you think the talent should pay fine. But you start off by getting some good makeup and taking classes for 3 year and hoping you can get a gig.
Or holding still while some ass adjust his camera for 15 minutes for one image.
But what ever you don't hit this thread again.
I have vampire i don't need a fun sucker. AMEN!!! ok I might go to hell one day...but hey I am half way there already.
Photographer
DrewRocs
Posts: 110
San Diego, California, US
Stormie Psy wrote:
Just out of curiosity have you posted this question on other forum event posts? Or did you just decide that this was a good one to pick on? If so you might want to look for your answer there because you will probably not get one here nor will you get an argument. Most of the people going to this have all worked together before so there is a camaraderie between us. If you don't like the way we have things set up don't go. It's that simple. word!
Photographer
Key Productions
Posts: 528
Oceanside, California, US
PixelPerfectImages wrote:
I'm still waiting for someone to clue me in as to why? I seriously would like to know. If there is no logical answer, or simply "that's the way it's always been" fine, I would just like to know.
Anyone??? First of all if you have any question about this event, you should PM to the original poster or event organizer instead of asking on public forum...
Answer to your question Daniel,
If you have invested tens of thousands of dollars in equipment and lighting etc...than trust me my friend $50 is nothing to work with talented 15 models with professional makeup done at very fine location with some food, some drink, some wine, some tea and a shoot like you will never forget...
Also if you think the images of any of the confirmed models of any of the group event will increase the value of your portfolio, just pay the fee to attend that event, if you have some free time and some extra cash...If not well hey it's that time of the year when flower field is blooming in Carlsbad...
BtW I'd love to go but I work 9am to 7pm on Saturdays...
Have fun all of you...
Manny
Photographer
PixelPerfectImages
Posts: 4
Oceanside, California, US
I have asked this question before in other forums and via PM, but this is the first time anyone has even bothered to reply, so I thank you all for that.
ok, responses in order:
Stormie, I have posted this same question in other invite threads and received no replies. Thank you for at least replying.
Macabri, the same can be said that models are receiving great value by having 15 photographers to work with, and MUA's are receiving great value by having 15 models and 15 photographers etc.... I am not disagreeing that it's a great event, just questioning why one group must foot the bill instead of everyone involved chipping in and making it fair.
Stormie, I did read the invite and the info I was seeking wasn't there. I also asked the same question of the person who invited me and didn't get a response until after I reposted the question... then it seemed everyone wanted to jump on me for even raising the question. And I'm not picking on you because of your "group", I'm just asking a question.
C Alexander, I can see that all this takes money to set up, but as for models being the only ones starving isn't realistic. Times are tough for everyone. You can call me an ass all you want, it doesn't make me one. I am just asking a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. As far as asking it in a public forum, as I stated above, I asked it of the person who invited me and did not get a timely reply so I asked it in the forum of the people involved. I also question why you would consider models and MUA's "talent" but not photographers? I'm sure there are photographers who are "talent" and not "talent" just as there are models and MUA's who are "talent" and not "talent" as well. Everyone has their contributions to these events I'm sure, Photogs/Models/MUA's, why not share the burden as well as the bounty? I'm not trying to "suck the fun" out of your event, and I have no problem helping pay for putting on an event. I just don't think it's fair to ask only the photogs to pay for it.
Seriously people... is it that much of a crime to ask a question? Why not just answer it in a reasonable manner instead of getting all defensive?
Obviously I am fairly new to MM, but by no means new to the photography business.
I realize this is your event and you can run it any way you want to, and I am not obliged to attend. I just didn't think it was going to cause this much fuss by asking a question.
At some time in the future I may actually attend one of these, because they really do look like fun, but for the time being I'll just stick to one-on-one sessions.
Anyways... I am sure you will all have a good time.
Dan
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
PixelPerfectImages wrote:
I have asked this question before in other forums and via PM, but this is the first time anyone has even bothered to reply, so I thank you all for that.
ok, responses in order:
Stormie, I have posted this same question in other invite threads and received no replies. Thank you for at least replying.
Macabri, the same can be said that models are receiving great value by having 15 photographers to work with, and MUA's are receiving great value by having 15 models and 15 photographers etc.... I am not disagreeing that it's a great event, just questioning why one group must foot the bill instead of everyone involved chipping in and making it fair.
Stormie, I did read the invite and the info I was seeking wasn't there. I also asked the same question of the person who invited me and didn't get a response until after I reposted the question... then it seemed everyone wanted to jump on me for even raising the question. And I'm not picking on you because of your "group", I'm just asking a question.
C Alexander, I can see that all this takes money to set up, but as for models being the only ones starving isn't realistic. Times are tough for everyone. You can call me an ass all you want, it doesn't make me one. I am just asking a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. As far as asking it in a public forum, as I stated above, I asked it of the person who invited me and did not get a timely reply so I asked it in the forum of the people involved. I also question why you would consider models and MUA's "talent" but not photographers? I'm sure there are photographers who are "talent" and not "talent" just as there are models and MUA's who are "talent" and not "talent" as well. Everyone has their contributions to these events I'm sure, Photogs/Models/MUA's, why not share the burden as well as the bounty? I'm not trying to "suck the fun" out of your event, and I have no problem helping pay for putting on an event. I just don't think it's fair to ask only the photogs to pay for it.
Seriously people... is it that much of a crime to ask a question? Why not just answer it in a reasonable manner instead of getting all defensive?
Obviously I am fairly new to MM, but by no means new to the photography business.
I realize this is your event and you can run it any way you want to, and I am not obliged to attend. I just didn't think it was going to cause this much fuss by asking a question.
At some time in the future I may actually attend one of these, because they really do look like fun, but for the time being I'll just stick to one-on-one sessions.
Anyways... I am sure you will all have a good time.
Dan Well to me it just came across as a polite way of being mean.
Makeup Artist
Naiyana
Posts: 1432
Costa Mesa, California, US
Evening Dolls!!!
Ok it's night but hey!!
Let's move on sounds like Dan did not mean to be mean...just came off that way.
Next topic....
We are going to have the fang maker there!!! I am exited!!! Need a new set soon...
I found out the Vons can make my cupcakes...or something super similar, so i will place the order on Wedn. and pick up Satuday morning!!!
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Naiyana wrote:
Evening Dolls!!!
Ok it's night but hey!!
Let's move on sounds like Dan did not mean to be mean...just came off that way.
Next topic....
We are going to have the fang maker there!!! I am exited!!! Need a new set soon...
I found out the Vons can make my cupcakes...or something super similar, so i will place the order on Wedn. and pick up Satuday morning!!! Leo will be there true. But it takes him a while to make the fangs. And right now he's backlogged a little. I'm sure you can probably talk to him about coming in for a fitting tho. I'm sure he won't mind
Makeup Artist
Naiyana
Posts: 1432
Costa Mesa, California, US
Stormie Psy wrote:
Leo will be there true. But it takes him a while to make the fangs. And right now he's backlogged a little. I'm sure you can probably talk to him about coming in for a fitting tho. I'm sure he won't mind I will just meet him this time...I just got my invisiling...so I will reward myself with a fancy set as soon as I got straight teeth...
Right now I am on a forced diet because of it.....
But that is goood...(less food=save money=more money for fangs!!!!)
I love my logic!!!
Model
Stormie Psy
Posts: 919
San Diego, California, US
Naiyana wrote:
I will just meet him this time...I just got my invisiling...so I will reward myself with a fancy set as soon as I got straight teeth...
Right now I am on a forced diet because of it.....
But that is goood...(less food=save money=more money for fangs!!!!)
I love my logic!!! lol. You're funny. Oh yeah, yay on the possible cupcakes!
Photographer
normad
Posts: 11372
Saint Louis, Missouri, US
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back home for a week. I'm back, so keep me informed of more events please! 
