MP Retouch wrote:
I've been having lots of trouble with this version. Most of the time I try it on a color image it says something like "version mismach/ no image," then even if I open a new image the error message stays on the panel.

click on it and it will turn off

this version is only 8bit RGB compatible

photoimager wrote:
Monthly  bump ?

sure... can't you see the whole big marketing campaign going on here

YanS Photography wrote:
Just tried it
Really nice plugin.
Thank you for the hard work

Is there a manual on how you can use it though?
I want to understand on what each slider or button do

And somehow on the panel I did not get the preview

Exact-Var (slider) : sets how wide the corrective band is

Select (button): selects skin-colours

GET (button): will get a preview from the selection
(use Rectangular Marquee tool to show the area of interest, and press GET so you can see a real-time preview of your adjustments only in this sector)

Mask (check): turns on/off the skin masks for the object

Pores-Blotches: sets what you are targeting to correct (small r vs. large r)

Rasterize: rasterizes the layer, creates black mask and turns it off.
(to have only targeted corrections, click on the mask and paint with white only where you want the corrections)

Strength: ... self-evident...
suggested use it to be stronger for "pores" (very small r) or less for blotches


for the "preview" make a selection, and press "GET"
(it's buggy but should have shown you something... it's also possible that it may not work as expected on all PS versions)

hope this clears things up a bit,
cheers

YanS Photography wrote:
Yeah the preview does not work in mine

And after I restart the photoshop, it now say version mismatch and it does not work for new files.
Oddly it still work with the original tiff files that I used to try it before but not new tiff files.

there's an 8bit restriction which may give you the same message.
ie make sure you are in 8bit RGB

(yes.. it's an artificial limitation to separate a possible "pro" version with a "free" one... but after some research didn't make sense to create the "pro")

Photon Mayhem wrote:
there's an 8bit restriction which may give you the same message.
ie make sure you are in 8bit RGB

(yes.. it's an artificial limitation to separate a possible "pro" version with a "free" one... but after some research didn't make sense to create the "pro")

You are right
When I change to 8 bit it work again.
Thank you for your explanation.
It work great.

I'm still playing with it but one thing I didn't understand is the rasterize button.
Why do I need to rasterize?
If just because of the mask, wouldn't I be able to work on the mask without rasterizing?

YanS Photography wrote:

You are right
When I change to 8 bit it work again.
Thank you for your explanation.
It work great.

I'm still playing with it but one thing I didn't understand is the rasterize button.
Why do I need to rasterize?
If just because of the mask, wouldn't I be able to work on the mask without rasterizing?

by default it masks the skin,
it's sort of a shortcut for faster workflow

Photon Mayhem wrote:
by default it masks the skin,
it's sort of a shortcut for faster workflow

I see
well I do find another reason why I should rasterize
If it is not rasterized, when you resize the image you will need to readjust.

Photon Mayhem wrote:
(yes.. it's an artificial limitation to separate a possible "pro" version with a "free" one... but after some research didn't make sense to create the "pro")

Since the PRO version is not programmed to appear in the near future, could you please, pretty please, unlock the 16bit in the latest version of the plugin?
Please? 

ArmanaGiedre wrote:
I can't download the plug-in. Could anyone send it to me? Thanks in advance.

I looked, the link to download it keeps looping back to his page...

KonstantKarma wrote:
Groovy - This is what we call Wavelet Decompose in GIMP (2008). It is manual however, need to gaussian blur/heal in the individual layers.

Good tutorial for the lost folks:
http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/12/gettin … ching.html

Downloadable free at http://registry.gimp.org/node/11742 .

Wavelet Denoise http://registry.gimp.org/node/4235 is the automatic version but only works well when trying to get rid of blemishes of the same size.

Good to see you Adobe guys catchin' on.

no matter how many wavelets you slice it, in the "tutorial" the results look a bit off... sometimes "more" is not necessary better


anyway..

Colour Profile bug fixed !
(fairly big one)

(click on Download to get the updated free version)


kickstarter.com declined to host project as it is not "creative enough" for them so...

when there's new info I will post, in the meantime - "share"

Photon Mayhem wrote:
no matter how many wavelets you slice it, in the "tutorial" the results look a bit off... sometimes "more" is not necessary

If you'd have read the tutorial, I state multiple times to approach it with a light hand. It's not a technique for the heavy handed.

If you'd like to, you photoshop guys can do the same thing as wavelet decompose by generating multiple high-pass layers at different sizes, and grain merging them back to your original image.

I'll probably write something up on doing it manually. There's no good reason to approach it any other way besides saving a little time I think.

The Art of Churchwell wrote:
I really like your skin softner

++1 still

patdavid wrote:
If you'd have read the tutorial, I state multiple times to approach it with a light hand. It's not a technique for the heavy handed.

If you'd like to, you photoshop guys can do the same thing as wavelet decompose by generating multiple high-pass layers at different sizes, and grain merging them back to your original image.

I'll probably write something up on doing it manually. There's no good reason to approach it any other way besides saving a little time I think.

I didn't mean "hard hand" but the number of wavelets. In most cases 1 or 2, well-targeted corrections will be sufficient.

Skin Smooth does it with sliders and preview, I didn't understand well how the plugin for Gimp picks the wavelets (to be honest I just glimpsed the tutorial and its results).

I agree about the reason for saving time,
but lets say - adjusting 6 wavelets will probably add to it, than save it.

PS is horrible when it comes to GB a selected region (it adds information outside the selection and halos on the edges occur). If Gimp does a better job in this it will have much better results, with even less need for manual corrections.
So if you add a way to target a specific band (with a preview) and add automatic skin selection I think you will save a lot more time. (and have a Skin Smooth version for Gimp )

Photon Mayhem wrote:
I agree about the reason for saving time,
but lets say - adjusting 6 wavelets will probably add to it, than save it.

The plugin will generate as many wavelets as you like, but the combination method reproduces the exact same image - so you can just pick/choose which wavelet scale contains the objects you want to modify, and then just retouch that particular scale (no need to touch all 6 scales for instance).

Photon Mayhem wrote:
PS is horrible when it comes to GB a selected region (it adds information outside the selection and halos on the edges occur). If Gimp does a better job in this it will have much better results, with even less need for manual corrections.

Nope, still a similar problem with GIMP.

Photon Mayhem wrote:
So if you add a way to target a specific band (with a preview) and add automatic skin selection I think you will save a lot more time. (and have a Skin Smooth version for Gimp )

I personally like having the option to target specific areas of an image in a deconstructed wavelet scale (sometimes I like to touchup something other than skin, for instance), but I could see some sort of automated method being handy for some people for sure!

patdavid wrote:
I personally like having the option to target specific areas of an image in a deconstructed wavelet

Sure.. with SkinSmooth you just press the [split] button and you have it.
since you already have chosen where you need the correction you get the split right where you want it.

the problem of predefined number of wavelets is that you never know how many you require to target exactly what you need. You can have what you need to correct spread across several wavelets, or have one with a band much wider then necessary.

Photon Mayhem wrote:
the problem of predefined number of wavelets is that you never know how many you require to target exactly what you need. You can have what you need to correct spread across several wavelets, or have one with a band much wider then necessary.

Absolutely, though I have never found this to be a problem in real-world use.  If I have too many wavelets, I can always ditch the ones created, and just use a smaller set of scales.  If I want to separate control between pores and freckles, for instance, I'll just increase the wavelets to what I need.  Usually the features are within one or two scales depending on subject size to image (or how much the subject fills the frame).

Either way, it's another method to keep in your pocket if you want full control over what you're after.  I should get off my butt and write up a manual method or just write a PS action for generating the scales... (lazy wins at the moment, I guess).

Photon Mayhem wrote:
hopefully there will not be more surprises,
and the plugin will be available next week

cool beans, i need to make more people look hotter online