Lauren Gurski wrote:
oooooo and for all you Temptu S/B users... Please give me a break down on how you distribute these products/ratios:

1. Mix s/b primer with s/b medium. Ratio. Why other than video recommendation?

2. Mix s/b concealer with s/b foundation. Ratio you use and why

3. MIX S/B FOUNDATION WITH S/B MEDIUM IN ORDER FOR IT TO FREAKING SPRAY OUT OF YOUR AIRBRUSH GUN PROPERLY AND AT A COMFORTABLE PSI FOR MODEL. WHAT RATIO DO YOU USE? DO YOU ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS HAVE TO THIN? UGHHHHHHHHHH. ITS SO THICK AND VISCOSITY IS NOT SOMETHING I HAVE MASTERED WITH THIS LINE OF PRODUCT. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SPEAK AS BASIC/DUMMY AS YOU THINK A 101 TO 201 CLASS STUDENT NEEDS!

5. CAN I MOVE STRAIGHT INTO HIGHLIGHT/CONTOUR COLOR WITH OLD FOUNDATION IN GUN, OR CLEANER FIRST???


6. DO YOU IMMEDIATELY RUN CLEANER THRU? HOW LONG CAN MAKEUP SIT IN GUN SO IT WON'T CLOG WITH S/B?


5. HELP

I use and love Temptu S/B...

1.   Why are you mixing these?  Use the primer straight to prime the skin.  Use the mixing medium when you want to 'make' a new paint color, using pigments or something like that.

2.  I don't actually 'mix' these, I lay the concealer directly onto the face, focusing on the under eye area.  You can mix a drop of S/B Foundation into the concealer if you want, but, I never do...

3.  I never, ever, ever thin down my S/B and it runs through my gun just fine.. I spray at a comfortable PSI for the face.. I never know exactly what PSI it is because my compressor doesn't have numbers on it.. its a little less then half way to full pressure for the face.. I only turn up the PSI for the body.

5.  When you get really used to airbrushing, you'll know how much foundation to put in the cup so that when the foundation is done, the cup will be empty.  Until that happens, you can just empty the cup/spray through the foundation shade until empty.  Then just go right in with your contour shade.  Spray on a paper towel until your contour color starts to come out... then contour.  Do the same with blush.  If you need to, you can run just a few drops of cleaner between shades... but only if needed.

6.  I'll work an entire day, sometimes 5 - 6 hours or so before I actually get to cleaning it.  Just drop some s/b cleaner into your cup to keep it 'wet' until you get a chance to run it through.. I find the s/b doesn't really clog too easily.. it is when you use alcohol based products (Temptu DURA) that you have to watch it more closely.  At the end of the day, I'll use some Nurturing Force Airbrush cleanser to really clean out my gun..  run it through, then run through water until it runs clean. 

7.  P.S.  Keep your silicone based (S/B) products far away from your alcohol based products as mixing the two will create a lovely cement and clog the sh*t outta your gun!  I have two separate guns completely (one for silicone, one for alcohol based -I use alcohol based on the body when a longer wear is needed).

Hope that helps!

Lisa Berczel wrote:
1)    Immediately clean after each color? No. If I feel the brush may be sitting a while, I’ll add cleaner/thinner so that the product doesn’t dry out. And, thinning a product by 50% sounds very much like too much. With that much dilution, you’re putting as much thinner as product on the face. This can compromise the integrity of the product and how well it stays on the face.

I hightligh, contour, and then apply the main foundation color. If you work through your colors lighter to darker, you will mitigate color pollution. You do NOT have to have a pristine clean airbrush in order to change colors. It only has to be clean enough to not throw off your next color.

this is really great info.  Lisa I find it interesting that you highlight, contour and then do foundation....Ill have to give that a try

MakeupbyTrish wrote:
this is really great info.  Lisa I find it interesting that you highlight, contour and then do foundation....Ill have to give that a try

It's how I was taught - I've tried variations but invariably come back to using the main foundation color to bring the face together and ready for blush, etc.

It's by no means the only or right way to apply airbrush foundation.

Lisa Berczel wrote:

It's how I was taught - I've tried variations but invariably come back to using the main foundation color to bring the face together and ready for blush, etc.

It's by no means the only or right way to apply airbrush foundation.

I know what you mean, I just would love to try it since you mentioned it. kind of one of those things i have to try...i may end up loving it...

Lisa Berczel wrote:
I hightligh, contour, and then apply the main foundation color.

Lisa, I tried this method yesterday morning with OCC and the result was absolutely LOVELY. The colors were blended beautifully and flawless! Thanks so much for your constant offering of knowledge. This is now going to be my main method for airbrush foundation/highlight/contour - hands down.

Elaine FACESbyEMG wrote:

Lisa, I tried this method yesterday morning with OCC and the result was absolutely LOVELY. The colors were blended beautifully and flawless! Thanks so much for your constant offering of knowledge. This is now going to be my main method for airbrush foundation/highlight/contour - hands down.

what shade did you use for contouring/highlighting...

MakeupbyTrish wrote:

what shade did you use for contouring/highlighting...

Hope we're not moving too much OT, but for me - I use less product when the contour and highlight are down first. This speeds application - there - I found a way to stay sorta on one of the questions.....

Crush is my "go to" contour. It works with all but the darkest skin tones and is a nice neutral that doesn't "dirty up" the face. I'll occasionally use the darkest color in the range. Sometimes I'll have to add black adjuster. But 85% of the time it's Crush.

Highlighting is usually done with the "O" in the color range. I work on mostly pasty white girls....

My work is almost always for print.

Lisa Berczel wrote:
I hightligh, contour, and then apply the main foundation color.

OooOoo... I'll have to try that!

MakeupbyTrish wrote:
what shade did you use for contouring/highlighting...

Did this again today (what I used on myself): Y0 to highlight, Crush to contour, Y3 for foundation and Gush for blush. I'm still in awe of the result. I highly suggest testing it out.

Lisa is absolutely right - it was a huge time-saver and I definitely used less foundation. And Also, to stay on topic, I didn't clean between colors - went from one shade to the next. Then ran water through the airbrush, two sprays of airbrush cleaner and another run of water. From start to finish it was approximately 5 mins and my airbrush is squeaky clean.

Thanks again, Lisa!

Lisa Berczel wrote:
I hightligh, contour, and then apply the main foundation color. If you work through your colors lighter to darker, you will mitigate color pollution. You do NOT have to have a pristine clean airbrush in order to change colors. It only has to be clean enough to not throw off your next color.



Thanks Lisa! I sure will be trying this today, quick question... Do you ever use concealer? I have use a few and I feel it leaves dry patches, what would you recommend when using OCC?

Yessie Makeup Artistry wrote:

Lisa Berczel wrote:
I hightligh, contour, and then apply the main foundation color. If you work through your colors lighter to darker, you will mitigate color pollution. You do NOT have to have a pristine clean airbrush in order to change colors. It only has to be clean enough to not throw off your next color.

Thanks Lisa! I sure will be trying this today, quick question... Do you ever use concealer? I have use a few and I feel it leaves dry patches, what would you recommend when using OCC?

Lauren Gurski wrote:
I have been experimenting with airbrush makeup and absolutely love working with a whole new medium of makeup and results it can produce. MUA's are artists, its just a different type of medium we work with than say an oil painter or a clay potter. I desperately need some advice from senior and more experienced artists, especially due to the fact that I live on an island in the middle of nowhere and the only time makeup trade shows are offered are on the west coast ($$$$$) or in the height of my bridal season (May uggjjhhhhhhhhhh).

I really would appreciate senior MUA's or airbrush artists (in any medium) posting their input to this thread. Sharing your wealth of expertise not only illustrates your skill and knowledge, but I truly feel it earns you some good karma points (aka pay it forward) and that good energy will come back to you.

1. Immediately after applying airbrush makeup, do you run a cleaner (appropriate for type of makeup/medium cleaner used of course) thru your gun? For example: I prime bride's face with S/B primer mixed 50% ratio with 50% mixing medium with foundation brush. Then I turn compressor on, add 6-10 drops of foundation to airbrush cup and introduce foundation to face. Once satisfied with coverage/results, should I immediately run expensive S/B airbrush cleaner thru gun? How thoroughly? What if I want to contour face? Wait and contour with left over foundation mixed by back bubbling? What kind of time period do you do this in - i.e. if I don't do this within two minutes am I screwed? Specifically, I am a beauty makeup artist working with OCC water based airbrush foundation/skin and Temptu S/B silicone based airbrush foundation/skin makeup. I have been having problems with my airbrush gun. NOTE: I USE SEPARATE GUNS FOR THESE TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS/CHEMISTRY OF PRODUCTS.

1. Part A. OCC is so much easier, because when I'm in doubt, I just run water thru gun. But it does dry faster and I would love answers to the above question regarding this line. I WANT/NEED TO BE MORE TIME EFFECIENT!!!!!

2. Airbrush is new to me. I am excellent at applying it to the client/model and still in major learning mode. I think one of my major pitfalls may be that after I am finished with skin I am hoping to use the same gun with same type of makeup (i.e. I keep water and silicone separate) on other parts of face (i.e. eyes) but am taking to long to get to that arena and my gun is clogging especially with temptu s/b.

3. What VERY VERY VERY (THINK AIRBRUSH MAKEUP FOR DUMMIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN TRYING TO WORK WITH S/B) SPECIFIC PROCESS DO YOU GO THRU AS A PRO ARTIST OR AS AN AIRBRUSH ARTIST IN ANY MEDIUM AS YOU WORK THRU YOUR ARTISTIC PROCESS TO ENSURE YOU EQUIPMENT IS FUNCTIONING PROPERLY AND ENHANCING YOUR SKILL SET, NOT HAMPERING YOUR SKILL SET.

4. DEAR LORD, PLEASE ANYONE THAT CAN RECOMMEND ACTUAL YOUTUBE OR VIDEO OF ACTUAL MAKEUP APPLICATION USING AIRBRUSH, STEP BY STEP FROM MUA POINT OF VIEW, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE POST. I SPEND COUNTLESS HOURS TRYING TO RESEARCH THIS AND CAN BARELY EVER EVEN SEE A PRO MUA'S SET UP FOR A TABLE, ROUTINE SANITATION, APPLICATION, USE OF AN AIRBRUSH CLEANING POT, USE OF AIRBRUSH CLEANING SOLUTION FOR SEVERAL BACK TO BACK MAKEUP APPLICATIONS. ANYONE THAT HAS SEEN USEFUL OR AWESOME OR EDUCATIONAL YOUTUBE/OTHER VIDEO RESOURCES - PLEASE POST A LINK!!!!! I AM USUALLY A PERSON THAT LEARNS BY DOING, BUT IN THIS CASE, I FEEL AS THO I NEED TO SEE AN ACTUAL PRO DEMONSTRATE THE BEST PRACTICE FOR TROUBLE FREE AIRBRUSH APPLICATION AND SANITATION ON A VIDEO I CAN WATCH OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

5. Please recommend online videos of ACTUAL makeup set-ups and ACTUAL makeup demos and ACTUAL makeup applications including brush cleaning, product sanitation and airbrush guides for a 4-8 hour long day. It's so hard to find good videos of this - its like everyone out there is holding their cards back so no one else (even if that person is on the other side of the continent) can see them/learn from them.

6. I am an experienced makeup artist, just new to the airbrush arena. Have looked up a few mentors that are close to me - but all are 2-5 hours away so distance learning is so key, because I don't want to just be good at airbrush, I want to be great. I absolutely will travel that distance, just want to ensure that my time is not spent cleaning brushes, but actually learning about the functions of airbrush. Any airbrush mentor in any medium willing to teach online, I am willing to do whatever I can do to promote you as an artist.

7. I am going to post another thread on this once I make my 7th call to Temptu Pro, but anyone that can give me their EXPERTISE on how the hell S/B is supposed to be properly thinned to be applying via airbrush would be much appreciated. I currently have the Temptu Air and go back and forth on whether it's the stupid airbrush/compressor's fault (putt-putt  machine I have needed for destination bridal work where I'm on a beach for touchups or in a rental home near natural light but not near any plug in outlets for an Iwata compressor, which I obviously need to re-invest in) and this compressor can't handle the consistency of the S/B foundation thickness. Or......... does this S/B foundation regularly get thinned out by most (please please please PROS PROS PROS answer) makeup artists. I love its results, I love I can matte it with powder, I love it. I just can only get the results right now by PURE chance with my airbrush or more likely with my foundation/stipple brush. I do bridal. I need perfect. Not runway, not every 30 min touchups, but alllllllllllllllllll-night long looking fab.

8. Feel a need to lecture/rant/rave/give fab advice that seems to long. Please email me. Message me. Call me. It does not have to be public what you say, I just truly appreciate a your advice and recommendations.

Thank you for all of your time, I know it is important and valuable, and I truly appreciate any info and expertise you can send my way.

I use Temptu s/b, and here is the insight I can offer.
You do not immediately have to run cleaner through the brush as long as you are still using it.  For example, if you have sprayed the foundation through, and now want to highlight, spray out the rest of the foundation color if any is left, immediately add highlight color, then apply to face (test on your hand or tissue to make sure the last color is completely gone).  You can continue with that same method if following with separate blush color etc.
I try to run cleaner through the gun before leaving a job, but there have been times I am in a rush out the door, and don't have the chance.  Its fine as long as you do when you arrive home. 
Do not run the Temptu s/b primer through your gun.  It is too thick for the gun and meant to be applied by hand/brush/sponge.
Dont bother with mixing medium unless you are making a pigment.
Regarding back bubbling, my airbrush teacher (independant from an airbrush brand) told me that can clog your gun.  To mix colors, put a SMALL plastic spatula into the well and mix around.
You need to know how to take apart your gun for a thorough cleaning and put pack together.  If you are having clogging problems, do this, its a fresh start.
For Temptu s/b, since its silicone based you can use 244 to clean the gun.
Dont use q tips or makeup brush to swish cleaner around in the well. 
Good luck!

melodramakeup wrote:
This thread has been a wealth of information! Any other airbrush MUA's out there that can add to this?

There's a lot of airbrush info in the FAQ's as well.... do you have a specific question?