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Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

you guys make everything dirty sounding lol smile  whose been sneaking in my world when i wasn't looking haha

im drawn to water.... see totally innocent concept.....

now if i said i was into water sports that could be totally interpreted a different way smile

Jun 29 13 09:48 pm Link

Photographer

Image Works Photography

Posts: 2890

Orlando, Florida, US

Guss W wrote:

orias wrote:
teehee im hydrophilic smile

I think it means she gets moist easily.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7447/9170374621_7e6009d491_m.jpg

Jun 29 13 09:56 pm Link

Photographer

Frank Lewis Photography

Posts: 14492

Winter Park, Florida, US

Yesterday a woman came through my check-out line at PETCO wearing a T-shirt she got as a cast member in Halloween Horror Nights. I commented on her T-shirt and she allowed as how she had been doing Halloween Horror Nights for a long time. I told her I know a lawyer from the Tampa/St. Pete area who is also a cast member. She responded with "Oh, you mean Carl. Yes, I've know Carl for a long time." I don't remember her name.

Jun 30 13 04:43 am Link

Photographer

OwenImages

Posts: 3844

Pinellas Park, Florida, US

Dinner...hmmmm, what to do.

Jun 30 13 02:18 pm Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

got some cute new stuffs for all my shoots next month woohoo smile 

also i gotta test out my new fancy schmancy directional microphone for my camera on my model squad to see if it improves the video audio a bit.

Jun 30 13 04:15 pm Link

Photographer

Carl Roberts

Posts: 33090

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Frank Lewis Photography wrote:
Yesterday a woman came through my check-out line at PETCO wearing a T-shirt she got as a cast member in Halloween Horror Nights. I commented on her T-shirt and she allowed as how she had been doing Halloween Horror Nights for a long time. I told her I know a lawyer from the Tampa/St. Pete area who is also a cast member. She responded with "Oh, you mean Carl. Yes, I've know Carl for a long time." I don't remember her name.

Not to sound pompous...but I'm a bit of a legend

Jul 01 13 10:13 am Link

Photographer

Carl Roberts

Posts: 33090

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

This is legitimately for real...
So at one point on Saturday I'm looking around trying to figure out where they are going to bury my body, because I know that it is too steep and there are too many steps, stairs and boulders for any vehicle or even a motorcycle or 4 wheeler or horse, and there is no way any person or people can carry me back down the mountain because it is so steep and narrow. So I was looking for a nice shady spot under a tree.
Yeah, it was that kind of a weekend.
Soooooooooo many stories.
Once I get past survival mode I'll write a telenovella and let you know what all happened.
Ultimately I am fine and unharmed ....but holy hell...wowsers!
Gotta love those DR adventures.

Jul 01 13 10:13 am Link

Photographer

Carl Roberts

Posts: 33090

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

This is legitimately for real...
So at one point on Saturday I'm looking around trying to figure out where they are going to bury my body, because I know that it is too steep and there are too many steps, stairs and boulders for any vehicle or even a motorcycle or 4 wheeler or horse, and there is no way any person or people can carry me back down the mountain because it is so steep and narrow. So I was looking for a nice shady spot under a tree.
Yeah, it was that kind of a weekend.
Soooooooooo many stories.
Once I get past survival mode I'll write a telenovella and let you know what all happened.
Ultimately I am fine and unharmed ....but holy hell...wowsers!
Gotta love those DR adventures.

Jul 01 13 10:13 am Link

Photographer

Carl Roberts

Posts: 33090

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqzzf0-Wf68

The water was lower when I went so there was more sliding than jumping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POH35drrmuY

Teleferico Puerto Plata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3jj7C1oV7g

Sosua
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCUG16BJRo

I've been to 33 countries, the only place that was even close to Sosua was Thailand

Jul 01 13 10:22 am Link

Photographer

sospix

Posts: 23772

Orlando, Florida, US

Carl Roberts wrote:
This is legitimately for real...
So at one point on Saturday I'm looking around trying to figure out where they are going to bury my body, because I know that it is too steep and there are too many steps, stairs and boulders for any vehicle or even a motorcycle or 4 wheeler or horse, and there is no way any person or people can carry me back down the mountain because it is so steep and narrow. So I was looking for a nice shady spot under a tree.
Yeah, it was that kind of a weekend.
Soooooooooo many stories.
Once I get past survival mode I'll write a telenovella and let you know what all happened.
Ultimately I am fine and unharmed ....but holy hell...wowsers!
Gotta love those DR adventures.

You be da ultimate island mon now CR  .  .  .  wink  How's them dreads a comin'  .  .  .  reread "Don't Stop The Carnival", by Herman Wouk again, den buy you a hotel down dere  .  .  .  wink

SOS

Jul 01 13 10:45 am Link

Photographer

OwenImages

Posts: 3844

Pinellas Park, Florida, US

Carl Roberts wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqzzf0-Wf68

The water was lower when I went so there was more sliding than jumping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POH35drrmuY

Teleferico Puerto Plata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3jj7C1oV7g

Sosua
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDCUG16BJRo

I've been to 33 countries, the only place that was even close to Sosua was Thailand

Those are some pretty cool places.

Jul 01 13 11:33 am Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

So which idiot has a shoot on the 4th at the beach at sunset because that was the only day a model(who is specificly flying in to shoot with me)was available...
And guess which idion now has to find a beach that even remotely has a chance to have parking?
And guess which idiot has to figure all this out...and make images like the ones I am kinda known for,with unpredictable wind and weather conditions...wll while not getting home till about noon on the 4th...


I picked a bad time to stop sniffing glue

Jul 01 13 06:00 pm Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

Chris Rifkin wrote:
So which idiot has a shoot on the 4th at the beach at sunset because that was the only day a model(who is specificly flying in to shoot with me)was available...
And guess which idion now has to find a beach that even remotely has a chance to have parking?
And guess which idiot has to figure all this out...and make images like the ones I am kinda known for,with unpredictable wind and weather conditions...wll while not getting home till about noon on the 4th...


I picked a bad time to stop sniffing glue

yikes good luck... snag yourself an assistant to help save your sanity smile

Jul 01 13 07:01 pm Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

orias wrote:

yikes good luck... snag yourself an assistant to help save your sanity smile

Exactly...except that would be one more person to watch me melt down when I can't find a spot to shoot/weather craps out at the only spot I find parking at...

Oh..did I call myself an idiot yet

Jul 01 13 07:04 pm Link

Photographer

Tropical Photography

Posts: 35564

Sarasota, Florida, US

Chris Rifkin wrote:
So which idiot has a shoot on the 4th at the beach at sunset because that was the only day a model(who is specificly flying in to shoot with me)was available...
And guess which idion now has to find a beach that even remotely has a chance to have parking?
And guess which idiot has to figure all this out...and make images like the ones I am kinda known for,with unpredictable wind and weather conditions...wll while not getting home till about noon on the 4th...


I picked a bad time to stop sniffing glue

Chris, not to sound like a dick, but stop worrying about what Mother Nature is going to toss your way.. No situation is perfect. Whatever you're given, use your skills to make the best of the situation..

Prime example, I had a shoot today, first thing this morning that was suppose to make use with all natural light coming into the models bedroom for a lingerie shoot.. Well, it was pouring like a mother and no where near the light coming in that I needed.. I could have pouted, sent the MUA home who came from Odessa (not Ukraine), packed my shit up and went home.. Instead, I figured out how I could take these lemons and make a killer lemon martini..

Solution? Use what light I had coming in, take a strobe and turn on the modeling lamp and bounce into a silver reflector and jack my ISO up to around 3200 to even 8000ISO...  Finish up by making some delightful images.. Here's a sample..

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130701/20/51d24756677d4_m.jpg

Bottom line, don't sabotage your shoot before you REALLY know what you have to work with.. And even then, take what you have and use it to your advantage.. You have to be flexible whether you're shooting on location or in the studio/studio setting..

Jul 01 13 08:19 pm Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

ooh pretty ^

Jul 02 13 08:08 pm Link

Photographer

Tropical Photography

Posts: 35564

Sarasota, Florida, US

orias wrote:
ooh pretty ^

Thanks...  And she certainly is!!  Have had the pleasure of working with since she was 16.. Now she's 20.. Gets better with every shoot.. smile

Jul 02 13 08:17 pm Link

Photographer

Image Works Photography

Posts: 2890

Orlando, Florida, US

4th of July approaching, no- not talking about hydrophilic, has anyone have plans?

Jul 03 13 06:11 am Link

Photographer

Cool Hand Mike

Posts: 735

Jacksonville, Florida, US

Chris Rifkin wrote:
So which idiot has a shoot on the 4th at the beach at sunset because that was the only day a model(who is specificly flying in to shoot with me)was available...
And guess which idion now has to find a beach that even remotely has a chance to have parking?
And guess which idiot has to figure all this out...and make images like the ones I am kinda known for,with unpredictable wind and weather conditions...wll while not getting home till about noon on the 4th...

I've tentatively got a sunrise shoot to avoid the possible crowds.
I'd try to find out which beaches will have official fireworks and stay away from those, there is a good chance whatever beach you go to will still have fireworks so maybe you can work those into the backround.

Tropical Photography wrote:
Chris, not to sound like a dick, but stop worrying about what Mother Nature is going to toss your way.. No situation is perfect. Whatever you're given, use your skills to make the best of the situation..

Prime example, I had a shoot today, first thing this morning that was suppose to make use with all natural light coming into the models bedroom for a lingerie shoot.. Well, it was pouring like a mother and no where near the light coming in that I needed.. I could have pouted, sent the MUA home who came from Odessa (not Ukraine), packed my shit up and went home.. Instead, I figured out how I could take these lemons and make a killer lemon martini..

Solution? Use what light I had coming in, take a strobe and turn on the modeling lamp and bounce into a silver reflector and jack my ISO up to around 3200 to even 8000ISO...  Finish up by making some delightful images.. Here's a sample..

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130701/20/51d24756677d4_m.jpg

Bottom line, don't sabotage your shoot before you REALLY know what you have to work with.. And even then, take what you have and use it to your advantage.. You have to be flexible whether you're shooting on location or in the studio/studio setting..

Fear of the unknown is the worst.

I'm hoping to set up a shoot with that particular lovely model later this month.

Jul 03 13 07:06 am Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

Well..problem solved itself,model has postponed the fla trip till August...
Here was the deal,she was making a special trip to fly in last second here just to shoot with me,tomorrow,then fly to chicago...tomorrow being the only day she could do this(origionally she was coming down the entire weekend)
The cheapest flight was $950 to here then chicago.....
Think about it,$950 to basicly shoot with me with kinda iffy conditions and locations(I mean I had a location but it is a kinda a one trick pony location that is only good for sunsets over calm water...no beach,ect)..*thinks about the math,who in their right mind pays 950 to shoot with me,,that in itself is concerning...there are infinately better shooters that charge half that if she was in fla*...
And for what
Best case scenario is there is a 25% chance we get images like the ones of april I got in the Keys
75% chance of either a rainout or another grey sunset....
And this is why I was stressing...the ammount of money she was going to pay to fly herewould not equal even the best case scenario....

So probably she comes down fetcon week(not a fetish llama but I told her that week I will be free to shoot)..

So
Should I try to book another shoot tomorrow or just drink beer and eat sushi all day

Jul 03 13 09:29 am Link

Photographer

Tropical Photography

Posts: 35564

Sarasota, Florida, US

Chris Rifkin wrote:
Well..problem solved itself,model has postponed the fla trip till August...
Here was the deal,she was making a special trip to fly in last second here just to shoot with me,tomorrow,then fly to chicago...tomorrow being the only day she could do this(origionally she was coming down the entire weekend)
The cheapest flight was $950 to here then chicago.....
Think about it,$950 to basicly shoot with me with kinda iffy conditions and locations(I mean I had a location but it is a kinda a one trick pony location that is only good for sunsets over calm water...no beach,ect)..*thinks about the math,who in their right mind pays 950 to shoot with me,,that in itself is concerning...there are infinately better shooters that charge half that if she was in fla*...
And for what
Best case scenario is there is a 25% chance we get images like the ones of april I got in the Keys
75% chance of either a rainout or another grey sunset....
And this is why I was stressing...the ammount of money she was going to pay to fly herewould not equal even the best case scenario....

So probably she comes down fetcon week(not a fetish model but I told her that week I will be free to shoot)..

So
Should I try to book another shoot tomorrow or just drink beer and eat sushi all day

That's her issue, not yours..  I've shot weddings with hurricanes 3 days out and the weather is shit.. Not my fault they didn't bother to take into consideration what weather is like that time of year.. I only deal with what I have control over and make the best of what is handed to me.. That's the mindset you have to have.. If the client is stupid and doesn't have contingency plans or chooses to do a shoot during an iffy time of year, again, not my issue I just create the best I can with what I'm handed..

When you worry about the mistakes of the client and don't concentrate on what you CAN control, you'll never succeed.. Weather you can NEVER control, but you can control how you handle the situation at hand..

Jul 03 13 09:53 am Link

Photographer

Tropical Photography

Posts: 35564

Sarasota, Florida, US

Chris Rifkin wrote:
So which idiot has a shoot on the 4th at the beach at sunset because that was the only day a model(who is specificly flying in to shoot with me)was available...
And guess which idion now has to find a beach that even remotely has a chance to have parking?
And guess which idiot has to figure all this out...and make images like the ones I am kinda known for,with unpredictable wind and weather conditions...wll while not getting home till about noon on the 4th...

I've tentatively got a sunrise shoot to avoid the possible crowds.
I'd try to find out which beaches will have official fireworks and stay away from those, there is a good chance whatever beach you go to will still have fireworks so maybe you can work those into the backround.

Tropical Photography wrote:
Chris, not to sound like a dick, but stop worrying about what Mother Nature is going to toss your way.. No situation is perfect. Whatever you're given, use your skills to make the best of the situation..

Prime example, I had a shoot today, first thing this morning that was suppose to make use with all natural light coming into the models bedroom for a lingerie shoot.. Well, it was pouring like a mother and no where near the light coming in that I needed.. I could have pouted, sent the MUA home who came from Odessa (not Ukraine), packed my shit up and went home.. Instead, I figured out how I could take these lemons and make a killer lemon martini..

Solution? Use what light I had coming in, take a strobe and turn on the modeling lamp and bounce into a silver reflector and jack my ISO up to around 3200 to even 8000ISO...  Finish up by making some delightful images.. Here's a sample..

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130701/20/51d24756677d4_m.jpg

Bottom line, don't sabotage your shoot before you REALLY know what you have to work with.. And even then, take what you have and use it to your advantage.. You have to be flexible whether you're shooting on location or in the studio/studio setting..

Cool Hand Mike wrote:
Fear of the unknown is the worst.

I'm hoping to set up a shoot with that particular lovely model later this month.

Tropical Photography wrote:
Given I'm from the days of film, I always worked in the unknown.. I could do everything right from lighting, poses and composition, but if an aperture blade doesn't open properly or a shutterblade sticks or worse yet, the labs chemistry is bad or the tech an idiot, I'm screwed.. The unknown is what pushes us to succeed and get better.. Working through the possible fuck ups ahead of time, generally means having back up gear, keeps the fear at best because you already know how to handle it..

Had a photographer here that was doing a fashion shoot at nite.. Her power pack blew and had no lights.. Deadline was the next day to get images to the client.. This is the film days..  Photographer noticed there were a lot of motorcycles around the area she was shooting.. Found out who owned them and persuaded them into lining up the bikes and she used the headlights to light the shoot.. Shit was awesome..

That's the thing, you can't worry about the unknown, you can only prepare yourself for some sort of failure that you will have to over come.. And yes, sometimes the solution is just saying fuckit and go home.. But most of the time there is a solution, you just have to be creative and willing to be uncomfortable..

Jul 03 13 10:00 am Link

Photographer

Tropical Photography

Posts: 35564

Sarasota, Florida, US

I hope the post above makes sense since I seem to have F'd up the quotes.. GRRRR!!


And Cool Hand, I would highly recommend having Shelley Giard do make up.. She is wonderful and you get hair done as well.. I can get you her info if you like..

Jul 03 13 10:06 am Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

Tropical Photography wrote:
I hope the post above makes sense since I seem to have F'd up the quotes.. GRRRR!!


And Cool Hand, I would highly recommend having Shelley Giard do make up.. She is wonderful and you get hair done as well.. I can get you her info if you like..

you make no sense GOSH! lol

Jul 03 13 12:05 pm Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

Chris Rifkin wrote:
Well..problem solved itself,model has postponed the fla trip till August...
Here was the deal,she was making a special trip to fly in last second here just to shoot with me,tomorrow,then fly to chicago...tomorrow being the only day she could do this(origionally she was coming down the entire weekend)
The cheapest flight was $950 to here then chicago.....
Think about it,$950 to basicly shoot with me with kinda iffy conditions and locations(I mean I had a location but it is a kinda a one trick pony location that is only good for sunsets over calm water...no beach,ect)..*thinks about the math,who in their right mind pays 950 to shoot with me,,that in itself is concerning...there are infinately better shooters that charge half that if she was in fla*...
And for what
Best case scenario is there is a 25% chance we get images like the ones of april I got in the Keys
75% chance of either a rainout or another grey sunset....
And this is why I was stressing...the ammount of money she was going to pay to fly herewould not equal even the best case scenario....

So probably she comes down fetcon week(not a fetish model but I told her that week I will be free to shoot)..

So
Should I try to book another shoot tomorrow or just drink beer and eat sushi all day

well whomever was paying for this flight would certainly have the most pressure and risks of not getting good photos to make up for the cost sad

Jul 03 13 12:06 pm Link

Photographer

OwenImages

Posts: 3844

Pinellas Park, Florida, US

Special day at WH today.  Just sayin'.

Jul 03 13 12:30 pm Link

Photographer

Tropical Photography

Posts: 35564

Sarasota, Florida, US

Tropical Photography wrote:
I hope the post above makes sense since I seem to have F'd up the quotes.. GRRRR!!


And Cool Hand, I would highly recommend having Shelley Giard do make up.. She is wonderful and you get hair done as well.. I can get you her info if you like..

orias wrote:
you make no sense GOSH! lol

Wouldn't be the first woman to tell me that.. sad  LOL!!

Jul 03 13 12:48 pm Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

Tropical Photography wrote:

Wouldn't be the first woman to tell me that.. sad  LOL!!

You really are my father
lol
smile
hmm
sad

Jul 03 13 12:52 pm Link

Photographer

Koryo Photography

Posts: 1239

Tampa, Florida, US

Happy Independence Day! Hope everyone has a safe, fun holiday...

Jul 04 13 02:00 am Link

Photographer

OwenImages

Posts: 3844

Pinellas Park, Florida, US

Happy 237th Independence Day!  In 13 years it will be the 250th.  That will be called the Sestercentennial or Semiquincentennial (half of 500 years).  We will have to wait 13 years to see what is more popular but I have a feeling it will be Sestercentennial.  Have a safe and happy 4th!  smile

Jul 04 13 07:00 am Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

Wow,all I can say after that 45 minute experience is thank you Florida D.O.T for giving me a $100
Tax free bonus on my per diem for getting a clean inspection....(we get bonus' for a clean inspection report with no violations)

I meanjy daym...they were really hitting the inspections hard on both sides at the wildwood scales..
Pulled me into the barn for a complete. level 1(that is a full truck I8nspection and paperwork)


Its strange that Florida is so hard asssed during hollidays(have seen them inspecting on Christmas)...yet the 72 hour nationwide blitz half the stations are closed

Jul 04 13 07:41 am Link

Photographer

Cool Hand Mike

Posts: 735

Jacksonville, Florida, US

Tropical Photography wrote:
I hope the post above makes sense since I seem to have F'd up the quotes.. GRRRR!!

And Cool Hand, I would highly recommend having Shelley Giard do make up.. She is wonderful and you get hair done as well.. I can get you her info if you like..

I'm usually hesitant to add a MUA to shoots because it can add more complications ( another person to rely on...what happens if one or the other doesn't show up, etc),
sometimes wrangling a model is tough enough. Though I might have one to work with for the Tampa trip it might just be locking down the/a model that is the tricky part.

OwenImages wrote:
Special day at WH today.  Just sayin'.

If they've got pretty girls in short shorts, I'd wager most of them are special days smile

Jul 04 13 09:31 am Link

Photographer

Tropical Photography

Posts: 35564

Sarasota, Florida, US

If you use Shelley, Mike, there is 1% percent chance she's not going to show.. If something is horrifically wrong with one of her kids or her house is on fire.. If she's hired, she will be there...  I've worked with her twice and no issue and a buddy of mine has worked with her multiple times including a trip to Miami and again, no issue..

If you can get Cory, pretty confident that there will be no issues either..


And I can honestly say that my editing time on Cory's current images has been cut in half because of the quality of the make up work.. So that time alone is worth a top flight MUA.. Regardless of who the MUA is..

Jul 04 13 10:38 am Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

Cool Hand Mike wrote:

I'm usually hesitant to add a MUA to shoots because it can add more complications ( another person to rely on...what happens if one or the other doesn't show up, etc),
sometimes wrangling a model is tough enough. Though I might have one to work with for the Tampa trip it might just be locking down the/a model that is the tricky part.


If they've got pretty girls in short shorts, I'd wager most of them are special days smile

I agree that relying on someone else that you dont know personally can be a bit of a risk.... most photogs have hired me as a model and assistant for them shooting the second girl after as they know i'm reliable and can do professional hair/makeup/lighting/etc, as well as shoot behind the scenes videos...

i cant be the only lady like that... perhaps if you find just on model whom you want to shoot as well as hire on those other levels you can get a few killer back to back shoots without the panic of knowing someone new is reliability smile   plus if the other gal flakes,  you still have this person to make the trip to the location or studio rental not a total waste lol

Jul 04 13 01:27 pm Link

Photographer

OwenImages

Posts: 3844

Pinellas Park, Florida, US

Just an FYI for those that did not know the real history of events.  wink
Why July 2nd is really America's Independence Day.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ans … _blog.html

Jul 04 13 03:01 pm Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

gah why are airports always soo freezing  BRRRRRRRRRRRRR....  dudes i live in fl,  give me a break here!

Jul 05 13 08:48 am Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

And the tragic thing  is the sky is absolutely beautiful.....
except at the spot we were going to shoot at
Tomorrow I have a feeling is going to be a biscut...
Fml and f me In the mouth hard enough so I choke to death

Jul 05 13 05:04 pm Link

Photographer

OwenImages

Posts: 3844

Pinellas Park, Florida, US

Hmmmmm, what to do this weekend...anything good going on with anyone on Saturday or Sunday?

Jul 05 13 05:10 pm Link

Model

orias

Posts: 5187

Tampa, Florida, US

busy busy busy... roadtripping all day tomorrow
now to try and not get pulled over with all the moonshine in this wagon haha

Jul 06 13 04:52 pm Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

wow,a miracle,I actually had a decent day and got to play with my camera and a friend from Indy...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1044170_534665256586734_1039731696_n.jpg

Jul 06 13 10:30 pm Link