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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

something for you to play with:

http://illuminations.herokuapp.com/
(no software needed, runs straight from your browser)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b1iBRyOB3zY/UMpoMjg0_JI/AAAAAAAAHic/vK2wwMwH-ds/s928/FashionGrade.jpg

update: grain textures added
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/155908_476576885716744_977728579_n.jpg

have fun

Mar 14 12 06:32 pm Link

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Koray

Posts: 6720

Ankara, Ankara, Turkey

Either I'm using it wrong or I dont really like the results when I move the sliders around.

Mar 14 12 08:41 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Koray wrote:
Either I'm using it wrong or I dont really like the results when I move the sliders around.

I know of a few issues, but if you know what fees off, it may be helpful
thanks for the feedback

Mar 15 12 02:13 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

turned out that there's internal computational error in flash itself. smile

anyway... - fixed
(or rather bypassed)

now the grading adjustments with sliders should produce smooth(er) transitions.

Mar 15 12 07:18 am Link

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ManoDeGato by MaryTere

Posts: 283

Guadalupe, San José, Costa Rica

I love when Photon Mayhem brings us new toys smile
Is this a "try it for free for a limited time" project to hook us up for future sales? If that's so, you're an evil genius xD

Mar 16 12 01:26 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

ManoDeGato by MaryTere wrote:
I love when Photon Mayhem brings us new toys smile
Is this a "try it for free for a limited time" project to hook us up for future sales? If that's so, you're an evil genius xD

smile)  that's free to play with.

there's a "pro-version" which grades 45+ megapixel images, but unless you need them for print the free version should be enough - (900px on the long side)

Mar 16 12 05:48 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

updates:
- "grey mode" (interface)
- "before-after" qiuck compare
- key (brightness) algorithm updated

https://prikachi.com/images/858/4559858M.jpg

Mar 25 12 03:56 am Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Nice tool, it's not for me, but I can see this being used by wedding photographers and such.

Here is my list of suggestions:
- Rename "Grade" to "Presets" or "Looks"
- Hide the top left slider when no presets are loaded
- Make the buttons behave that when you click "Grades" it opens the presets and when you click it again it hides it. Or make the "Cancel" button stand out more or make an obvious "X" somewhere.
- Make the text for the buttons on the right horizontal.
- In Grey mode, don't grey out the slider icons

Just a few things I noticed when playing around now

Mar 25 12 04:23 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Lanenga wrote:
Nice tool, it's not for me, but I can see this being used by wedding photographers and such.

Here is my list of suggestions:
- Rename "Grade" to "Presets" or "Looks"
- Hide the top left slider when no presets are loaded
- Make the buttons behave that when you click "Grades" it opens the presets and when you click it again it hides it. Or make the "Cancel" button stand out more or make an obvious "X" somewhere.
- Make the text for the buttons on the right horizontal.
- In Grey mode, don't grey out the slider icons

Just a few things I noticed when playing around now

thanks for the great suggestions.
I'll probably implement most of them when I get more spare time.

the dynamic application is intended for fun / web-pics / quick results,
hence it's free and has 900px limitation smile
(the pro version handles just the looks only )

Mar 25 12 04:34 am Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Photon Mayhem wrote:
The dynamic application is intended for fun / web-pics / quick results, hence it's free and has 900px limitation smile
(the pro version handles just the looks only )

Haha, you'll probably turn it into a mobile app, charge $0.99 and millions of hipster kids will make you a rich man.

Mar 25 12 04:38 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Lanenga wrote:

Haha, you'll probably turn it into a mobile app, charge $0.99 and millions of hipster kids will make you a rich man.

wink

Mar 25 12 04:56 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

+ 2 new type of filters, each with 8 variations
(somewhat basic, but still fun to play with)



http://illuminations.herokuapp.com/

Mar 29 12 11:42 am Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

I see you implemented most of the suggestions.

Like how the Looks button toggles now, but I think you might still need the other option for if you're already hovering over the Looks presets and you decide to cancel.

Still think the buttons on the right should have horizontal text. Don't like tilting my head to read what they do.

Grey mode still behaves the same. I don't get why you added those two icons on top? It shifts my attention to those icons and makes me want to click them to see what they do. But they don't seem to do anything sad

Mar 29 12 01:33 pm Link

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Robert LC

Posts: 944

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Lanenga wrote:
[..]I don't get why you added those to icons on top? It shifts my attention to those icons and make me want to click them to see what they do. But they don't seem to do anything sad

You're just a internet-junky with a click-fetish..psscht https://www.adiumxtras.com/images/thumbs/troll_icons_2_28891_7697_thumb.png

Mar 29 12 02:02 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Lanenga wrote:
Grey mode still behaves the same. I don't get why you added those two icons on top? It shifts my attention to those icons and makes me want to click them to see what they do. But they don't seem to do anything sad

you know, that when you have different colours on your workspace it's harder to judge the colours of the image, so grey is the preferred option, which makes judging hues better but harder to judge saturation. Those little things seem to help with that issue, and having a proper colour complemets nearby is useful.

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update: Gel's functionality is modified
ex: original / Gel-Pink(light)
https://g1.img-dpreview.com/52DCEA676F2E4B77AC3A5703D7DD0995.jpg

Mar 30 12 05:48 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

ok... there's something newer as an update...

there are 4 algorithms added, two tone images same as before, BUT the new ones are fast!
and I mean fast... what took 15~20 sec to render, now it's done in less than 1 sec.

http://illuminations.herokuapp.com/

+ There is an updated "cine" look for adding colour to greys -> Cine.2

https://g3.img-dpreview.com/09F78AB072744B3C9B2525FB6EA83A98.jpg

have fun

Apr 22 12 05:09 am Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Photon Mayhem wrote:
ok... there's something newer as an update...
...
have fun

Add a histogram! big_smile

Apr 23 12 03:27 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Lanenga wrote:

Add a histogram! big_smile

.. what's a histogram?... wink


.. but how about doing it in real-time of video on a mobile...?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta … o.k64.free
(in beta)

... it will be sweet to see the retouched image before you take the picture,
wouldn't it? smile

Apr 23 12 06:26 pm Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Photon Mayhem wrote:
... it will be sweet to see the retouched image before you take the picture,
wouldn't it? smile

Uhm... no...
Unless "retouch" information is saved separately. (I want 5% of your future profits for all my input big_smile)

Apr 24 12 09:05 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Lanenga wrote:
Uhm... no...
Unless "retouch" information is saved separately. (I want 5% of your future profits for all my input big_smile)

haha smile)   good one smile


btw, on the mobile you see the graded image before you take the snapshot.
(and all adjustments will be visible in real time before you take any image).
I'm sure I could squeeze in skin-smoothing and and even some skin-glossing... but lets see how it goes

Apr 24 12 12:51 pm Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Photon Mayhem wrote:
btw, on the mobile you see the graded image before you take the snapshot.
(and all adjustments will be visible in real time before you take any image).

Yes, I got that part. What I am saying is that I would only like that feature if grading/retouch information is saved separately. So it stores the actually camera image without color grading applied, so that you can later change the type of grading when you change your mind.

Similar to RAW, but then not RAW of course smile

Apr 24 12 02:01 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

.. ok.. so here's somewhat of an update...


Grading is now graphically accelerated done internally at 32bit depth per channel.
(The fast 4 grading functions -looks; and all dynamic adjustments - via sliders.)

There is virtually no restrictions on image size .
(if you are grading over 16MP image you should probably use Google Chrome as a browser)

May 09 12 04:48 pm Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Photon Mayhem wrote:
.. ok.. so here's somewhat of an update...


Grading is now graphically accelerated done internally at 32bit depth per channel.
(The fast 4 grading functions -looks; and all dynamic adjustments - via sliders.)

There is virtually no restrictions on image size .
(if you are grading over 16MP image you should probably use Google Chrome as a browser)

- No more demo image?
- Top left slider is back when no look is selected.
- Looks seems to slightly blur original image.
- When Fast Look buttons are pressed, the Looks panel stays open.

May 09 12 04:59 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Lanenga wrote:
- No more demo image?
- Top left slider is back when no look is selected.
- Looks seems to slightly blur original image.
- When Fast Look buttons are pressed, the Looks panel stays open.

the image on the screen is obviously resized (upsized/downsized) from original.
when you save it it will be OK, in the original size/quality.
(it's saved at jpg 100%)

top-left is blending the "look" with the original, before the other adjustments are done (so if there's no look loaded it is the same as being to the left).

slider are not auto-resetting on purpose. (if you have a few images from one session, this way it will be easier to match the grading for all; to reset press "reset")

button panel remains open for the fast-looks, as they take less than a second and it's easier to browse this way. (click anywhere outside and it will close)

yep.. no-demo pic... it just takes space and time.

May 09 12 05:14 pm Link

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Lanenga

Posts: 843

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Photon Mayhem wrote:
top-left is blending the "look" with the original, before the other adjustments are done (so if there's no look loaded it is the same as being to the left).

I know, but you took it out before and now it's back.
It's a confusing slider when no look is selected. There is no need for it to be there when no look is selected.

Photon Mayhem wrote:
button panel remains open for the fast-looks, as they take less than a second and it's easier to browse this way. (click anywhere outside and it will close)

Can we get a percentage/time indicator when loading one of the other looks?
I like to see and know that it's actually doing something.

May 09 12 05:22 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

Lanenga wrote:

Photon Mayhem wrote:
top-left is blending the "look" with the original, before the other adjustments are done (so if there's no look loaded it is the same as being to the left).

I know, but you took it out before and now it's back.
It's a confusing slider when no look is selected. There is no need for it to be there when no look is selected.


Can we get a percentage/time indicator when loading one of the other looks?
I like to see and know that it's actually doing something.

the web-looks are working at a proxy-level, so those will not be processed at full quality. (it will take 20min to grade a 25mp image on the server, so there's not much point of working with the web looks unless it's with small images)
The 4 fast looks, and all adjustments of the sliders are full resolution.

May 09 12 05:29 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

update: size limitation

due to browser-memory limitations maximum  image size is set to about 22MP. (larger images will automatically downsized)

May 11 12 12:03 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

here's the free version for android devices:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta … o.k64.free

https://lh6.ggpht.com/NA-YWy-3AHHYeJTZCWs4GAU3JvMLmN8J-00oXuA-sF8IAjvjuKgqOjfjzpS4y6m1B_gu

have fun

May 17 12 01:08 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

short instructions and examples
http://46it.ca/FashionGrade/help.html

Jun 09 12 11:17 am Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

outdated link

Jun 15 12 03:23 pm Link

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George Thomson

Posts: 699

Concord, California, US

some updates:
(Film-stock names are abbreviated as they are trademarked)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b1iBRyOB3zY/UMpoMjg0_JI/AAAAAAAAHic/vK2wwMwH-ds/s928/FashionGrade.jpg

update: grain textures added
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/155908_476576885716744_977728579_n.jpg

have fun

Dec 13 12 03:52 pm Link