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Accidental Plateau
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Brooklyn, New York, US
http://spursfansays.com/tag/tiffany-six/ No real winners here. A Stacie Halas, a middle school science teacher in Oxnard California. The students at the school discover her prior adult video career as "Tiffany Six." She did not violate the penal law, she did not violate her contract with the school district, however, even if she keeps her job they are going to go out of their way to find a reason to fire her and not support her career at all. Kids will be kids. How can she be an effective teacher now? It reminds me of the mid 1990s NYPD Officer Carol Shaya does a Playboy shoot and although it does not violate any law or employment rule, the bottom line was she lost her job. Stacie Halas was reported to have earned about $10,000 in the course of her adult video career. Carol Shaya can not have earned that much for a one time shoot. Both women lost their regular jobs, benefits and pensions. Both jobs are high profile, with a degree or public contact where they have to get people to voluntarily comply with them and take them seriously, people being what they are, kids and the everyday people on the street are going to talk trash. No opinion here, it just is what it is. Sad.
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Jeffs Photography
Posts: 3608
Dakota, Minnesota, US
Accidental Plateau wrote: She did not violate the penal law, she did not violate her contract with the school district, however, even if she keeps her job they are going to go out of their way to find a reason to fire her and not support her career at all. I'm sure they'll end up saying she lied on her resume or something. People make choices or mistakes in life--it's how they impact me that makes me form an opinion.
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BrooklynHill
Posts: 4790
Newport Beach, California, US
Sad. I'm sure those kids are not looking up any of this content, either. Some dads might have already known
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976 Photography
Posts: 4599
Shreveport, Louisiana, US
Accidental Plateau wrote: A Stacie Halas, a middle school science teacher in Oxnard California. The students at the school discover her prior adult video career as "Tiffany Six." While I'm sure the parents are probably up in arms about their kids' teacher being a former adult star, I think the bigger issue is this... Why are their own MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS watching porn to begin with? What are the parents doing... or not doing... that their middle school children would even know who an obscure porn star really was to begin with???
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SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Choices have consequences, for good or ill.
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Andialu
Posts: 14029
San Pedro, California, US
SKPhoto wrote: Choices have consequences, for good or ill.
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Dean Johnson Photo
Posts: 70925
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
"Students have been asked not to search Internet sex sites for a teacher who may have been moonlighting as a porn star," Hahahaha! I can't think of a better way to actually encourage kids to search sex sites!
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Jeffs Photography
Posts: 3608
Dakota, Minnesota, US
Dean Johnson Photo wrote: Hahahaha! I can't think of a better way to actually encourage kids to search sex sites! Students: Do not visit www.tiffany6.com or my www.myteacherfuckedoncamera.com . Love, Your Principal *Edit* By the way, I totally made those sites up. I'm glad one of them worked.
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LizW_Makeup
Posts: 1621
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Jim Macias wrote:
Haha +1.
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Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
Dean Johnson Photo wrote: "Students have been asked not to search Internet sex sites for a teacher who may have been moonlighting as a porn star," Hahahaha! I can't think of a better way to actually encourage kids to search sex sites! Yeah....that mentality is dumber than rocks. Glad to see the educators are so smart.
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Andialu
Posts: 14029
San Pedro, California, US
Enrapture Photography wrote: Students: *removed* Love, Your Principal *Edit* By the way, I totally made those sites up. I'm glad one of them worked. No link to porn.
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Accidental Plateau
Posts: 7715
Brooklyn, New York, US
976 Photography wrote: While I'm sure the parents are probably up in arms about their kids' teacher being a former adult star, I think the bigger issue is this... Why are their own MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS watching porn to begin with? What are the parents doing... or not doing... that their middle school children would even know who an obscure porn star really was to begin with??? You have to be real. When I was in fourth grade in the 1970s there was always the one guy who got his hands on a porno mag and everybody had to see it. It is one kid that took the time to find it or stumbled on it and everyone else is curious. When I was in High School in the 1980s, I worked at a movie theatre, in the next building was a photogrpahy studio where they shot pornography. One time we saw a bunch of negatives, model release, photos with ID in the loose thrown out in the dumpster. It had real names, home addresses, etc. We glanced at it and left it there. This was before the web. We were too busy working, saving money for cars, travel and boats to care. With the web these days it just takes one person with free time.
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SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Jim Macias wrote:
You know they have surgery now that can correct slackjaw.
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Jeffs Photography
Posts: 3608
Dakota, Minnesota, US
Jim Macias wrote: No link to porn. Oops! I forgot to change it after I realized it worked. Alright, the links do not lead to porn now.
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Andialu
Posts: 14029
San Pedro, California, US
SKPhoto wrote: You know they have surgery now that can correct slackjaw.
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BeatnikDiva
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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
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MKPhoto
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Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Bob Bentley Photography
Posts: 15141
Westcliffe, Colorado, US
Accidental Plateau wrote: No opinion here, it just is what it is. Sad. It's life, and life isn't always fair.
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Compass Rose Studios
Posts: 15979
Portland, Oregon, US
SKPhoto wrote: Choices have consequences, for good or ill. It's just too bad when the hypocritical morality of a repressed population is so infantile that it can't handle choices that are really no one else's business except the person made them.
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SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: It's just too bad when the hypocritical morality of a repressed population is so infantile that it can't handle choices that are really no one else's business except the person made them. What's infantile is to assume choices do not have consequences. You know, the whole babylike fingers-toes-extent-of-my-universe-it's-all-about-me type of people.
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Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
At 32, she probably still has a MILF career to fall back upon. --- Or she could capitalize on her newfound celebrity, write a book, sell TV interviews and speeches, and run for City Council or Mayor.. --- I hope she had her intellectual property rights nailed down in advance for her body of work as a porn actress. --- On the other hand, the administrators and HR people who hired her as a teacher in Oxnard should also be fired for not doing their research and due diligence. Incompetence and lack of responsibility on their part should not be rewarded. Thanks to Google and everyone else indexing all the information in the universe on Internet now, personal privacy no longer exists in this country. 12 year old keyboarding kids can find that kind of information in mere minutes. --- If she was really serious about keeping her job as a grammar school teacher, she should have put her porn experience on her resume and dealt with it honestly at the time, before seeking that line of work. If she's not smart enough to see these obvious consequences, then she's probably not smart enough to teach other people's kids. /random thoughts Her life, her decisions. Free will. She's an emancipated adult. We are all vulnerable to invasion of privacy and harassment now, for anything we do. *shrug
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Caradoc
Posts: 19900
Scottsdale, Arizona, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: It's just too bad when the hypocritical morality of a repressed population is so infantile that it can't handle choices that are really no one else's business except the person made them. There are no clear winners, here. On the one hand, you've got a bunch of idiots insisting that their invisible sky-daddy figure says it's BAD, and on the other you've got someone who clearly doesn't care to understand that there are consequences to one's choices. (shrug)
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ontherocks
Posts: 23575
Salem, Oregon, US
what about all the people who actually do illegal stuff? like smoke pot. enough with the war on sex already.
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Compass Rose Studios
Posts: 15979
Portland, Oregon, US
SKPhoto wrote: What's infantile is to assume choices do not have consequences. Yes, all those consequences for sexual mores that are nobody else's business. But maybe you're right. Maybe she should've known better. Just like all those gay couples who can't marry where they live. They should've known there'd be denied that right by bigots who would disallow it. How infantile of them to assume it was their right to do what they wanted with their bodies.
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SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: Yes, all those consequences for sexual mores that are nobody else's business. But maybe you're right. Maybe she should've known better. Just like all those gay couples who can't marry where they live. They should've known there'd be denied that right by bigots who would disallow it. How infantile of them to assume it was their right to do what they wanted with their bodies. No one stopped her from doing anything she wanted to do with her body. And I bet she's completely free to go back and do it again if she wants to. Based on her value in that marketplace of course. But as a teacher, get this because I know it's a hard concept for a lot of you, AS A TEACHER IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT HER! Oops, there's that maturity thing again that says more than just you exist in the whole wide universe and that "other people" actually exist and aren't just actors in your own little drama.
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SillyEddy
Posts: 2246
Coventry, England, United Kingdom
I don't think that the teacher should lose their job, but it will make it a bit more difficult for the children to take her seriously. It's down to the kids, but they're too young to simply let it go. A bit young to be able to find that sort of thing too... Not too young to be curious, but damn. There's a guy on Youtube who made pro-atheist videos, and it was discovered by his students who suddenly took a mass-hatred to him. Weird.
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SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Caradoc wrote: There are no clear winners, here. On the one hand, you've got a bunch of idiots insisting that their invisible sky-daddy figure says it's BAD, and on the other you've got someone who clearly doesn't care to understand that there are consequences to one's choices. (shrug) Don't need no sky-daddy (thanks for the bigotry) to understand what she believes about sex. One being that you can sell yourself for money and it's perfectly acceptable. One need only be a parent to decide if you want your child involved in a forced association with people who believe such things.
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Click Hamilton wrote: At 32, she probably still has a MILF career to fall back upon. --- Or she could capitalize on her newfound celebrity, write a book, sell TV interviews and speeches, and run for City Council or Mayor.. --- I hope she had her intellectual property rights nailed down in advance for her body of work as a porn actress. --- On the other hand, the administrators and HR people who hired her as a teacher in Oxnard should also be fired for not doing their research and due diligence. Incompetence and lack of responsibility on their part should not be rewarded. Thanks to Google and everyone else indexing all the information in the universe on Internet now, personal privacy no longer exists in this country. 12 year old keyboarding kids can find that kind of information in mere minutes. --- If she was really serious about keeping her job as a grammar school teacher, she should have put her porn experience on her resume and dealt with it honestly at the time, before seeking that line of work. If she's not smart enough to see these obvious consequences, then she's probably not smart enough to teach other people's kids. /random thoughts Her life, her decisions. Free will. She's an emancipated adult. *shrug I'm going to disagree. Buy I could be wrong in my reasons. I've lead to believe that one's resume should not necesarily include all job experience but rather, relevant job experience. Because otherwise, you might have several pages of work experience when resumes should be 1 page (2 pages?).
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Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: It's just too bad when the hypocritical morality of a repressed population is so infantile that it can't handle choices that are really no one else's business except the person made them. The fact that she has splattered herself on Internet as a hard core porn actress makes it everyone else's business. To believe otherwise is infantile.
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Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
Christopher Hartman wrote: I'm going to disagree. Buy I could be wrong in my reasons. I've lead to believe that one's resume should not necesarily include all job experience but rather, relevant job experience. Because otherwise, you might have several pages of work experience when resumes should be 1 page (2 pages?). Yeah, you're right. I concede on that point. I was just mulling out loud. Resumes are sales documents. It's the job of the people hiring her to vet her. --- My thoughts were more in line with how politicians handle eminent release of negative information that can derail their careers. There's a calculated science for handling this now.
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Compass Rose Studios
Posts: 15979
Portland, Oregon, US
Click Hamilton wrote: The fact that she has splattered herself on Internet as a hard core porn actress makes it everyone else's business. To believe otherwise is infantile. It's a job she did. She doesn't do it now. Where's the problem?
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Compass Rose Studios
Posts: 15979
Portland, Oregon, US
SKPhoto wrote: No one stopped her from doing anything she wanted to do with her body. No they just stopped her from having the opportunity to do something else.
But as a teacher, get this because I know it's a hard concept for a lot of you, AS A TEACHER IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT HER! Please tell me how her choices in the past make it 'all about her'. How she can't have been in the adult industry and now be a teacher. I want to know specifically where the conflict is. Do tell.
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Andialu
Posts: 14029
San Pedro, California, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: It's a job she did. She doesn't do it now. Where's the problem? If we were talking about college students I could see your point. However, kids that age don't have the emotional maturity to not be distracted by her previous occupation.
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Click Hamilton
Posts: 36555
San Diego, California, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: It's a job she did. She doesn't do it now. Where's the problem? I dunno. Ask Stacie Halas. --- Google her real name. Google her fake name. Look how much comes up. Her porn will come at you like an avalanche. This is a lot more than "at least one video" .. or youthful indiscretion, etc. --- “It has been alleged that one of our teachers is depicted in at least one pornographic video and possibly others on the Internet,” superintendent Jeff Chancer said in the Tuesday letter to parents at the district’s three junior high schools. What a ridiculous understatement that is. If you want some serious SEO, latch onto some of her tags now.
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Compass Rose Studios
Posts: 15979
Portland, Oregon, US
Jim Macias wrote: If we were talking about college students I could see your point. However, kids that age don't have the emotional maturity to not be distracted by her previous occupation. I suppose. But you'd be surprised how mundane anything can become - once people just accept it and move the hell on. EDIT: and IT IS SoCal of all places.
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SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: It's a job she did. She doesn't do it now. Where's the problem? I'm sure that for many German soldiers gassing Jews was just a job too. Would you have wanted any of them around your children? //Don't answer, your credulity is already strained.
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Compass Rose Studios
Posts: 15979
Portland, Oregon, US
SKPhoto wrote: I'm sure that for many German soldiers gassing Jews was just a job too. Would you have wanted any of them around your children? //Don't answer, your credulity is already strained. Yours went out the window with Godwin's law.
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modeled
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SKPhoto
Posts: 25784
Newark, California, US
Compass Rose Studios wrote: SKPhoto wrote: No one stopped her from doing anything she wanted to do with her body. No they just stopped her from having the opportunity to do something else. Choices have consequences. If I take a perfectly legitimate job in another country, that would be illegal here, guess what?
Compass Rose Studios wrote: Please tell me how her choices in the past make it 'all about her'. How she can't have been in the adult industry and now be a teacher. I want to know specifically where the conflict is. Do tell. That you can't tell, says all there is that needs to be said.
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