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Torin Skye wrote: In turn, I also find it odd when in the course of a nude shoot, a photographer refuses the need to see or photograph my ID even when taken out and offered to him/her. Oct 13 12 06:00 pm Link Sweet_Nikki wrote: So what's the big question that needs a thread? It's obviously unusual, so just don't do the shoot. Gut instincts are there for a reason. Oct 13 12 06:02 pm Link Sweet_Nikki wrote: i have a blackberry, but if you really wanna see i guesso ....oh wait. Oct 13 12 06:03 pm Link There's a model I'm talking to now who looks like she's probably 20lbs heavier in her new photos than her old ones (but the new ones look like they were taken with a wide angle lens and bad poses), so I asked her if I could see a current front and side shot so I can tell what I'm working with. The only difference is that we're shooting lingerie and not nudes. Oct 13 12 06:03 pm Link If nudes are absent, not recent, or posed in such a way as to conceal parts of the body, it is reasonable to ask for images, and, for this purpose, phone cam shots are superior to pro shots because they show how the model really is rather than how good a photographer can make the model look. However, your portfolio has nudes, they seem to be sufficiently recent, and they give a clear idea of your physique, so the photographer's motives remain unclear, although I suspect that the motives already attributed to others are likely to be accurate. Oct 13 12 08:34 pm Link is it cash money he is paying? Will he be doing nudes of you when you get there? So long as he isnt going to treat you poorly... who cares? Right? with that said... you always can say no. Use your common sense or your intuition. Oct 13 12 09:08 pm Link Sweet_Nikki wrote: Then I wouldn't worry too much about it. Oct 13 12 09:09 pm Link MoRina wrote: +1 Oct 13 12 09:24 pm Link in over 10 years i've never had a model balk at providing a copy of id and her ssn - for the most part it's expected i'll ask. i usually ask for an unretouched photo - especially when the models age on her profile doesnt seem to match the images, the images are old or the ps is obvious. that said, i dont ask for a nude photo - but i can see why some wold. again never a problem. if i were booking you i would ask for an unretouched image and not book if you werent willing to send one. Oct 13 12 09:52 pm Link Oct 13 12 10:03 pm Link ClimaxArt wrote: SSN#, really? I'd tell you to go hump a dead fish. Oct 13 12 10:04 pm Link I refer models to a friend who shoots for a major men's magazine. If he sees potential, he'll email the models with 2 requests. First, 2 forms of government issued ids. Second, nude photos with current newspaper with the date visible. Cell phone cameras ok . All sent to his company email address. btw- the requested photos are more like a police lineup...front, both sides and rear. Topless only is ok. The purpose of recent photos is to show how you really look. No posing, photoshop or any body changes (e.g., weight gain, scars, stretch marks, etc...) Why? What happens if airfare, hotel and per diem are approved. Then the model comes in and looks nothing like her photos. Now, add crew fees, location fee and so on. Money loss and the photographer's credibility with magazine. My advice: Consider the source of the request before proceeding. Oct 13 12 10:18 pm Link Sorry but I did not read the entire thread. First, any model I work with would need to be OK with me photographing her, him, holding the model release and a copy of the model's DL. Sorry, but it just works that way. As per "passersby" during nude work, I would never let anyone within view or included in an image to not be involved in the shoot and have a signed model release as well as being photographed with their DL and the release. Real Simple. Oct 13 12 10:22 pm Link ClimaxArt wrote: I always take photos of the ID but who in their right mind would EVER give someone their SS#? Because of the very real threat of Identity theft employers have removed SS numbers from paychecks and all states have removed SS numbers from drivers licenses. If a photographer ever asked me for my social I'd punch them BEFORE I told them where they could stick it. Ask me for a social and I'll introduce that person to anyone whithin earshot as an identity thief. Oct 13 12 10:23 pm Link ron w photo wrote: If it's a paid commercial shoot, you will have to fill out a W9 where your SS# or EIN is required Oct 13 12 10:37 pm Link Why does he want your drivers license?? did he ask for a credit card number also :-) I'd say move on and find someone else to shoot with. Friggin whack-jobs get a camera on clearance at walmart and all of a sudden they are photographers, c'mon man there has to be a line drawn somewhere...sorry that might be another topic hehe. Oct 13 12 10:38 pm Link ron w photo wrote: WHY do you need their drivers license?? Identity theft...please...it's easier to stop a bank account number or cancel a credit card then it is giving some freak'tard with a camera your address. Oct 13 12 10:44 pm Link Sweet_Nikki wrote: Sounds like he has some sort of fetish about shooting nude models in front of his neighbors? Could be a red flag for future drama? So I am thinking you are right that it's not worth it. Oct 13 12 10:48 pm Link ron w photo wrote: paying a model, mua or retoucher is a business expense - you have to send a 1099 - you have to have a ssn to issue a 1099. not sending one is illegal ... you can't pay people off the books, you have to report it - how do you write off the expense w/o reporting it on your taxes? Oct 13 12 11:08 pm Link Cuica Cafezinho wrote: again, how do you write off the expense w/o issuing a 1099? if you're selling any of your work dont you want to be able to take the write off against the income? Oct 13 12 11:14 pm Link 1099 is issued for nonemployees you pay in excess of $600. Oct 13 12 11:30 pm Link Cuica Cafezinho wrote: ClimaxArt wrote: Normally an employer , contract or otherwise only really requires a 1099 if they're paying you more than $500 (or are getting to the point of spending more than that on you in a fiscal year). Otherwise they should not require a social security number. Oct 13 12 11:31 pm Link Guess DSP beat me to it. But yea I only know this because some of my local clients needed my SSN when I started to accumulate more than 500$ in invoices in a single fiscal year with them as a individual. If it's work you do quite regularly, you can register yourself as a business and obtain a Employer Identification Number for tax purposes (aka EIN) that can be provided for business tax purposes if you do not wish to provide your SSN, this can be used even if you're the only "employee" in said business. Assuming you'll be filing your taxes as a sole proprietorship business. I did it online with the IRS, it's not difficult and can be provided electronically as a PDF if need be. Oct 13 12 11:33 pm Link OP, what the photographer asked is not altogether abnormal. If you feel a weird gut instinct, though, call it off. I've found out in this business that my gut knows best - even if it doesn't always make perfect logical sense at the time. Oct 14 12 12:04 am Link Rock Shots wrote: WHY are you even asking this question when several people have already given their reasons, did you skip to page two? Oct 14 12 03:59 am Link Sweet_Nikki wrote: So you've indicated in your profile which are retouched and which are not? I think with Mo she has stated this clearly. Oct 14 12 04:02 am Link Karl Blessing wrote: Cuica Cafezinho wrote: if a model is worried a particular photographer is going to steal her identify there's prob a few other more immediate concerns she ought to be having about the person. Oct 14 12 07:17 am Link IDiivil wrote: exactly Oct 14 12 07:18 am Link D S P wrote: while that's technically true - i think it really depends on the overall situation. if you're claiming $500 over a year paid to 10 models then fine. if you're claiming $5000 paid to 40 models on a modest amount of revenue then you'll want a little more documentation - especially when you're reviewing you taxes with the irs. they just love it when you quote their rules to them. Oct 14 12 07:24 am Link Oct 14 12 07:39 am Link I always require a copy of every models ID prior to shooting as proof of age. The send me a Nekkid phone pic is a bit sketchy though. And the shooting nudes on the porch for the neighbors to ogle is something I wouldn't do. Oct 14 12 07:40 am Link Oct 14 12 07:42 am Link Viral Photo wrote: ditto Oct 14 12 07:45 am Link Sweet_Nikki wrote: a very famous photographer (famous for shooting crowds of nudes in public places) kept texting my xGF if she would send him cell phone pics nude so he could decide if she would work out for his projects..even though she had very high quality nudes in her public profiles on many different networking sites... Oct 14 12 07:56 am Link 
Model Posts: 6639 MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica I think what some people missed here is that the nude photo request came AFTER she "declined" to give the photographer a copy of her drivers license. My opinion is that the photographer felt that maybe the OP doesn't want her true age known, and may be hiding other information. He still wanted to shoot with her, but started doubting what she may really look like when she shows up at the door. A lot of guys don't do photoshop - they can't make a girl look flawless in post. They need to know what they are getting. If the OP had a problem with a nude shot, she could have offered a bikini cell phone photo instead. Oct 14 12 08:14 am Link MoRina wrote: Aren't we all in the business of selling fantasy? :p Oct 14 12 08:24 am Link Some posters here are just agreeing to what they think you want to hear and just jumping on the "politically correct" bandwagon. I don't think that a cell phone text is the most professional method and I most certainly would never ask for one, especially a nude. But I have been sent nude pics by models that didn't have nudes in their ports trying to get me to hire them when I didn't even ask. If this guy is "a collector" and you already have a port full of nudes as well as the thousands of nude ports on MM I hardly think that a low quality cell phone pic is his best option to collect from. He may need some help with his social skill but I'd grade him on the quality of his port over quirky tendencies. The experience of shooting him will only last for a few hours. The images will last a lifetime. If his references check out and he's just an eccentric creative genius I'd go for it. If you feel you're in danger don't go but most of the most creative people I know are at least a little weird. ..... Oh snap, I gotta go. The orderly's bringing my meds and its dress like Spider-Man day day here at the ward. Oct 14 12 08:38 am Link DL = no problem, he may just want some "CYA insurance" - cover your ass... There are 14 year olds who look 25, he has no proof that you're not 17. I've been asked for my DL several times. Cell phone shots... no. I've encountered this issue numerous times, and it's always a firm NO. There is non-PhotoShopped lingerie taken within the last month in my port and references that you can ask. My personal reason is that it's one thing for family to see obviously professional (even if it's not the highest level sometimes) shots of me in lingerie/implied nude, it's another for them to see amateur cell phone pics that were obviously texted directly to some guy. I would offer him a cell phone pic of you in a tight camisole and mini-skirt - he can then see that you haven't gained weight/any skin imperfections on 75% of your body at least. That's what I do, and if they refuse that, I tend to think they were just a perv GWC and move on. Oct 14 12 08:39 am Link ClimaxArt wrote: Are you paying them over $600? Are they there own corp, or working via an agency? Oct 14 12 08:40 am Link MoRina wrote: You seem to be justifying why it's appropriate for a photographer to ask for a model to text him nude images. The problem is you're trying to apply logical and rational thought when it's not there. Oct 14 12 08:44 am Link |
But about the photo ID, it's a valid request, especially with 2257 in the US. 
