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Photographer
iPro Pictures
Posts: 184
Tempe, Arizona, US


I was wondering if there were any Ubuntu users out there. I just switched from Windows and now doing all my photo editing with Rawtherapee/Gimp.

I totally support a free OS and apps!

smile
Nov 05 12 11:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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R Michael Walker
Posts: 11,982
Costa Mesa, California, US


Matthew Braney wrote:
I was wondering if there were any Ubuntu users out there. I just switched from Windows and now doing all my photo editing with Rawtherapee/Gimp.

I totally support a free OS and apps!

smile

Wait till your work flow swells and your quality drops..see how you feel about freeware then. GREAT if you write your won stuff for rendering and the likes but Gimp is no CS6. Maybe YOUR work can stand the limitations. I tried it for the knowledge a few years back and quickly said screw that!

Nov 05 12 11:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,319
Orlando, Florida, US


I once loaded it onto a laptop and played around with it for a few hours.

It's a pretty polished OS, but since I already have a fully usable Windows ecosystem on my existing computer, I saw no reason to continue goofing around with it. 

I am, however, a little surprised that the tablet market didn't embrace an extremely stripped down linux distro for their OS choice.  I think it's fully ready for that sort of application.
Nov 05 12 11:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
iPro Pictures
Posts: 184
Tempe, Arizona, US


Well I still have Windows 7 and I'm just trying out Ubuntu for fun to see how it can stack up with my workflow.

Again it's not the tools you use but how you use them. At the end of the day the viewers won't be able to tell what camera you shot on, what type of computer or software you used.

To me the most important thing is what you're capturing
Nov 05 12 11:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rodrigo DD
Posts: 70
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


Matthew Braney wrote:
I was wondering if there were any Ubuntu users out there. I just switched from Windows and now doing all my photo editing with Rawtherapee/Gimp.

Yes, there are many Ubuntu users out there, but are you looking for Ubuntu users or Rawtherapee/Gimp users? since both also run on windows.

I use Rawtherapee/Gimp on windows and Debian (the father of Ubuntu).

For low end retouching RT+Gimp works once you get used to the interface, for high end retouching, standard commercial tools are more evolved.

Nov 05 12 11:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tony Lawrence
Posts: 19,068
Chicago, Illinois, US


I like Ubuntu but use Mint KDE 12 and other distros more.   Photoshop is wonderful and I have it on a Windows machine but nothing wrong with Opensource software.   In fact many of the tools and features in CS6 come from GIMP.   Use what works is my view.   Someone mentioned Linux on tablets.   Several big name tablets support Linux.   The Touchpad and others.   Its just never taken off.   Maybe with Unity it will start to grow but most consumers will stick with IOS or Android or Windows 8.
Nov 05 12 11:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Garnet Thomas
Posts: 27
Calgary, Alberta, Canada


Good Egg Productions wrote:
I am, however, a little surprised that the tablet market didn't embrace an extremely stripped down linux distro for their OS choice.  I think it's fully ready for that sort of application.

Android is Linux wink

I've tried switching to Linux a few times, but it never lasts. There are just too many areas the software can't compete with what's available on Windows.

Nov 05 12 11:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Good Egg Productions
Posts: 15,319
Orlando, Florida, US


Garnet Thomas wrote:

Android is Linux wink

I've tried switching to Linux a few times, but it never lasts. There are just too many areas the software can't compete with what's available on Windows.

Well color me stupid.

I am smarter now. Thanks.

Nov 05 12 11:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Joann Empson
Posts: 430
Walnut Creek, California, US


I use a derivative of the Ubuntu GNU/Linux distro that has all the non-free parts stripped out.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/GIMP_screenshot.png/600px-GIMP_screenshot.png

My workflow consists of a combination of dcraw, the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP), and ImageMagick. I've been itching to try RawTherapee.
Nov 06 12 12:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
alessandro2009
Posts: 7,360
Florence, Toscana, Italy


Matthew Braney wrote:
I totally support a free OS and apps!

+1
And when on the next release of Gimp (finally) will be the support of the 16bit the gap with photoshop will be reduced on the most essential parts actually missing.

Nov 06 12 12:22 am  Link  Quote 
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Joann Empson
Posts: 430
Walnut Creek, California, US


R Michael Walker wrote:
... see how you feel about freeware then ...

GIMP, RawTherapee, and GNU/Linux distros like Ubuntu are not freeware -- they are free software. This is an important distinction.

Freeware is software that doesn't cost any money. Free software is software that respects the four essential user freedoms.

The word free in the context of free software refers only the user freedoms and has nothing to do with monetary cost. Software released under the GNU General Public License (i.e., free software) is allowed to be sold.

Here's a real life example: Mac OS X is free software made non-free. Mac OS X is not much more than a hodgepodge of FreeBSD and OpenBSD (both free software). The BSD license allowed Apple to rebrand their prettied-up version of BSD and sell it as their own.

Developers of free software make money by being paid to develop new features for their programs, rather than from selling end user licenses.

The source of this money is typically from companies like Google, our taxes, and user donations.

Nov 06 12 12:34 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,462
Brooklyn, New York, US


Been using Ubuntu for the last several months I think its fantastic
I like the UI a lot more than Win 8 or Mac
I do just about everything non photo related on the Ubuntu box now.
On the same hardware I think its faster than Win 8 as well
Im not ready to start from Zero and learn Gimp though
Hopefully one day Adobe will come out with a PS that runs on it.
Nov 06 12 12:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AMBERCOOL
Posts: 1,407
Springfield, Virginia, US


I've used it a few times, but eventually got tired of the GUI.  I end up using mostly the command line so I found a few lighter flavors and stopped booting up to the GUI.  For example, I installed Bohdi on an old hand me down HP Mini just for command line usage through networks. 

Gimp is no different than the first Photoshops like 3.0 and 4.0, so I feel it's sufficient for most things.
Nov 06 12 01:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dan OMell
Posts: 1,335
Charlotte, North Carolina, US


been there, done that!
does not pay!
Nov 06 12 01:11 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Nicholas Fischer
Posts: 41
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada


In the software manager app, look for a program called WINE. It allows you to run windows programs on Linux. I haven't personally tested Photoshop but i believe there are some YouTube videos showing it running properlly.
Nov 06 12 01:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Harold Rose
Posts: 2,925
Calhoun, Georgia, US


Matthew Braney wrote:
I was wondering if there were any Ubuntu users out there. I just switched from Windows and now doing all my photo editing with Rawtherapee/Gimp.

I totally support a free OS and apps!

smile

Never heard of them...  and you say they are free... explain  strange words,,

Nov 06 12 01:55 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Joann Empson
Posts: 430
Walnut Creek, California, US


Nicholas Fischer wrote:
In the software manager app, look for a program called WINE. It allows you to run windows programs on Linux. I haven't personally tested Photoshop but i believe there are some YouTube videos showing it running properlly.

Photoshop is one of the programs that should run very well through WINE, because WINE was largely funded by Disney and Industrial Light and Magic (ILM) for that very purpose. Both studios are GNU/Linux houses.

The artists at ILM use GNU/Linux workstations with Photoshop running through WINE.

Here are a couple of screencaptures (from the Iron Man DVD extras) that show an artist's workstation at ILM. This workstation is running a GNU/Linux distro with the GNOME 2 desktop environment.

http://i.imgur.com/RGQQu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JdgvY.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/The_GIMP_icon_-_gnome.svg/48px-The_GIMP_icon_-_gnome.svg.pnghttp://api.fanhow.com/icons/48x48/8/62/1780917.20101102065840.ico.png

Nov 06 12 02:28 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
iPro Pictures
Posts: 184
Tempe, Arizona, US


Harold Rose wrote:

Never heard of them...  and you say they are free... explain  strange words,,

What do you mean I say they're free? They are free software. Period. That's just how Linux is, free OS and free software. I think it's heading in the right direction. I didn't enjoy Windows 8 and I'm looking for a slick alternative. I'm using an apple keyboard which most of the shortcuts on my keyboard work great in Ubuntu

Nov 06 12 06:09 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Koray
Posts: 6,686
Ankara, Ankara, Turkey


Google gimp inspiration and photoshop inspiration and compare the images big_smile
Nov 06 12 06:34 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
iPro Pictures
Posts: 184
Tempe, Arizona, US


Joann Empson wrote:
I use a derivative of the Ubuntu GNU/Linux distro that has all the non-free parts stripped out.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/GIMP_screenshot.png/600px-GIMP_screenshot.png

My workflow consists of a combination of dcraw, the GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP), and ImageMagick. I've been itching to try RawTherapee.

RawTherapee is a nice non-destructive organizing and raw processing software. I use to filter through my images and do all my adjustments of exposure, contrast etc. With one click you can also send each image directly to Gimp for touch ups!

Nov 06 12 06:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kevin Connery
Posts: 16,793
El Segundo, California, US


Moderator Note!
This is not the soapbox.

Please refrain from inflammatory rhetoric, and try to remain on-topic.
Nov 06 12 07:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
iPro Pictures
Posts: 184
Tempe, Arizona, US


Point well said Nigerian scammer. So again has anyone used Ubuntu for photography and if so how has your experience been?
Nov 06 12 08:31 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
iPro Pictures
Posts: 184
Tempe, Arizona, US


Although I found myself switching back to Windows because I need my Adobe apps. Having Photoshop, Bridge, Premiere Pro etc are the tools for what I need.

If Linux had more support from software developers I would make the full switch.
Nov 06 12 10:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
GiL Gonzales Foto
Posts: 150
Los Angeles, California, US


I have Ubuntu installed on all my old desktops and laptops that are running old processors for years now. I even use it for my FTP server to send photos to clients. I wanted an OS where I didn't have to worry to much about viruses, malware, spyware, etc. I use Ubuntu to browse the net safely, but not for editing photos. I depend to much on my Mac to run Photoshop and Lightroom.
Nov 06 12 04:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Nathanfx
Posts: 248
Santa Monica, California, US


Autodesk creative products are designed for linux as well, see if you cant find something that might aid you in there
Nov 06 12 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cosplay Creatives
Posts: 10,714
Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica


I use it from time to time, but I prefer Sabayon.
Nov 06 12 06:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
iPro Pictures
Posts: 184
Tempe, Arizona, US


Well I use Ubuntu alongside Windows. I keep Ubuntu strictly for my photography workstation. I find it more sleek than windows
Nov 06 12 09:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Sandra Vixen
Posts: 945
Los Angeles, California, US


I only use GIMP on Linux/Ubuntu. smile

Way more user-friendly than Windows, crashes less too, like zero times in the 6 years I've had it. Windows crashes every 6 minutes hmm
Nov 07 12 01:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,462
Brooklyn, New York, US


Can anybody who has run PS under Wine give a brief rundown on how difficult it is to run
Im a Linux newbie but if it doesnt require a 12th level wizard to install I might give it a shot
Nov 07 12 10:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rodrigo DD
Posts: 70
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia


RacerXPhoto wrote:
Can anybody who has run PS under Wine give a brief rundown on how difficult it is to run
Im a Linux newbie but if it doesnt require a 12th level wizard to install I might give it a shot

Set up Wine and then install Photoshop, see instruction form Wine makers in the following URL.

http://wiki.winehq.org/AdobePhotoshop

My experience, it works the same, only a little bit slower (but I am a patient man).

Nov 07 12 01:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Joann Empson
Posts: 430
Walnut Creek, California, US


This page has more detailed installation instructions for Photoshop CS5 (in the HOWTO section): http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.p … &iId=20158

Photoshop CS5 has been rated "Gold" by WINE users. Gold status means the application works "flawlessly with some special configuration."

Here's a screenshot of Photoshop CS5 running on Ubuntu 10.10:
http://i.imgur.com/WsbBj.jpg



Photoshop CS6 currently has a "Silver" rating, which means there may be "minor issues that do not affect typical usage."

Here's a screenshot of Photoshop CS6 running on Ubuntu 12.04:
http://i.imgur.com/gerWF.jpg
Nov 07 12 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AG_Boston
Posts: 345
Boston, Massachusetts, US


I use Ubuntu and Redhat. Everything I want to do I can do on Linux based systems. There are some work related calculations I do which Windows doesn't have the horsepower to take care of. Ubuntu also doesn't have virus issues anywhere near as bad as Windows.

The only two places I use Windows is at work (I run close to a dozen different computers) for common type work (word processing, presentations and that type of thing), and school.

All of my photo work is done on an Ubuntu machine.
Nov 07 12 07:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
JJMiller
Posts: 525
Buffalo, New York, US


Darktable and Krita are other alternatives.
Nov 07 12 08:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,462
Brooklyn, New York, US


Rodrigo DD wrote:
Joann Empson wrote:

Thanks for the links guys
Will do some reading and give this a try

Nov 07 12 10:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Tony Lawrence
Posts: 19,068
Chicago, Illinois, US


RacerXPhoto wrote:

Rodrigo DD wrote:

Thanks for the links guys
Will do some reading and give this a try

If I can do it anybody can.   Ubuntu 12.10 is out.   I'm not liking it though.  12.04 is LTS...
Try Darktable and Krita as suggested but and this is HUGE    Lightspark is coming to Ubuntu!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightworks   This is some serious STUFF.   Sorry Arch and Gentoo and Fedora fans.

Nov 07 12 10:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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RacerXPhoto
Posts: 2,462
Brooklyn, New York, US


Tony Lawrence wrote:

If I can do it anybody can.

Hahaha Im sure you are way ahead of me on the Linux learning curve
Been running 12.04 for several weeks now on whats going to end up as a dedicated ubuntu box
Running great...should be perfect once I replace faulty RAM

Nov 07 12 10:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tony Lawrence
Posts: 19,068
Chicago, Illinois, US


RacerXPhoto wrote:

Hahaha Im sure you are way ahead of me on the Linux learning curve
Been running 12.04 for several weeks now on whats going to end up as a dedicated ubuntu box
Running great...should be perfect once I replace faulty RAM

I don't think so.   You would have laughed at my struggles with Arch Linux.   Canonical is doing some funky things with newer releases of Ubuntu.   They are asking for donations.   That's okay but other stuff.   Take a look at the live CD of 12.10.   Maybe every six months is too much.   Users would be fine with once a year and stable.   You may not know this but you can use a USB stick as system RAM.   Not as fast as the computer installed RAM but it does work.   

Lubuntu uses only 256 mg RAM.   They say 128 but... no.   Check out Darktable and Krita though.   Very cool.

Nov 07 12 11:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Joann Empson
Posts: 430
Walnut Creek, California, US


Tony Lawrence wrote:
Canonical is doing some funky things with newer releases of Ubuntu.   They are asking for donations.   That's okay but other stuff.

I completely agree that Canonical (the company that puts together the Ubuntu GNU/Linux distribution) is doing funky things. They include nonfree software in Ubuntu -- programs that deny users the freedom to study its source code. These nonfree programs include binary-only drivers from ATI, Broadcom, and others.

Another bad addition to Ubuntu is the deal Canonical has made with Amazon to run ads on the operating system. While Amazon itself is a GNU/Linux-based company (Kindle is Linux-based and Amazon EC2 service is on GNU/Linux systems), they do not adhere to the philosophy behind free software. For instance, they lock down Kindles to prevent users from installing their own operating system, which violates the Kindle users' freedom to tinker with this piece of electronic hardware -- hardware that the customer supposedly owns.

Asking for donations is actually a good thing. Donations are voluntary. But putting nasty ads that load from Amazon poses privacy issues.

Having constant network communication with Amazon's ad servers means you may be subject to surveillance, which makes using Ubuntu not unlike using Microsoft Windows or Mac OS X. Instead of Microsoft or Apple monitoring you, it's Amazon doing the monitoring. They get information like IP address for a computer's approximate location, and times when the computer is on or off.

There are many GNU/Linux distros that don't subject users to these kinds of abuses. The GNU/Linux family tree is vast:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Gldt.svg/133px-Gldt.svg.png

EDIT: In response to the controversy, Canonical has detailed the way to remove Amazon integration. A single command:

sudo apt-get remove unity-shopping-lens

Source: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/rev … iew/page/2

Nov 08 12 01:46 am  Link  Quote 
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KonstantKarma
Posts: 2,513
Hickory, North Carolina, US


I use a Ubuntu derivative, MINT. Ubuntu and even Kubuntu feels to much like Mac for my liking, and I've been a windows user before.

I started with Zorin OS and loved it, until gimp 2.8 came out and it couldn't run on that platform and I moved to MINT, which I love even more.

What you can do with Windows in Photoshop takes 1/4 or 1/5 the time in Linux.  If you're like me, using a 8 year old machine with 2 gigs of RAM, a super-heavy filter might take 3 minutes in Windows and less than a minute in Linux. I suppose if you're running a newer machine with a really fast processor and more RAM, it might be a matter of seconds for either one and the difference wouldn't be so discerning.

Linux retouching pluses: Faster. Smoother. Allows you to do more at the same time without the machine getting 'bogged'. Just like with everything else Linux, way more bang for the power supplied to it.

Windows retouching pluses: Runs Photoshop and Elements and filters like Topaz where Linux has issues. That's about it.

My workflow for higher-end shots takes place in Windows, so I can use Topaz filters and develop my RAW files with Olympus Studio.

Overall - GIMP is a way more powerful program than Photoshop Elements. Full Photoshop (which I don't have) I understand is way more powerful program than the GIMP. I will say the one thing Elements has on GIMP is the content-aware healing tool is slightly more intelligent than GIMPs.

Workflow:

1) Open RAW in Olympus Studio, develop, save as TIFF.
2) Open TIFF in Elements. Spot heal obvious problems. Run Topaz filters if desired. Resave.
3) Open TIFF in GIMP. Here I do my main retouching. More healing, cloning, exposure, dodge and burn layers, selective sharpening, cropping.
4) Resave as TIFF and JPG for the web.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/12 … e05aaf.jpg - Processed with that workflow, because I added a Topaz Adjust filter

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pi … 0#30347710 - Processed completely in GIMP, as there was no Topaz needed.
Nov 08 12 07:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KonstantKarma
Posts: 2,513
Hickory, North Carolina, US


Mint is rather beautiful.

http://www.linuxmint.com/

http://www.linuxmint.com/img/screenshots/isadora/welcome.png
Nov 08 12 07:10 am  Link  Quote 
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