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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


top of the page *hugs*!!!

Nimue Elaine wrote:
I want a burger. sad

i wish you were here for the pizza i just ordered!

Nov 16 12 09:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Burlap Rats
Posts: 18,942
Riverside, California, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:

i'm not sure, but i probably deserve a spanking.
tell me im naughty.

This is more appropriate punishment.
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g367/AyameStars/tumblr_m52o9iJhy01rnuf8vo1_250.gif

Nov 16 12 09:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Nimue Elaine wrote:

This is more appropriate punishment.

LOL! pppfffttt. whatever. im down. wink

Nov 16 12 09:11 pm  Link  Quote 
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Zaychik
Posts: 7,787
San Francisco, California, US


Nimue Elaine wrote:

This is more appropriate punishment.
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g367/AyameStars/tumblr_m52o9iJhy01rnuf8vo1_250.gif

Omg where do you even
Nope
Don't wanna know.

...also this is proof of what I was saying. Hard to find on MM. wink

Nov 16 12 09:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gabrielle Heather
Posts: 10,064
Middle Island, New York, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:
i'm not sure, but i probably deserve a spanking.
tell me im naughty.

bend the fuck over and take it!! http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/taylortwocities/spank.gif

Nov 16 12 09:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Zaychik
Posts: 7,787
San Francisco, California, US


Gabrielle Heather wrote:

bend the fuck over and take it!! http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/taylortwocities/spank.gif

http://i.imgur.com/c9X6n.gif

Nov 16 12 09:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Gabrielle Heather wrote:

bend the fuck over and take it!! http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/taylortwocities/spank.gif

hahahaha!

Nov 16 12 09:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Burlap Rats
Posts: 18,942
Riverside, California, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:

LOL! pppfffttt. whatever. im down. wink

You're not the guy in that gif. . .

Nov 16 12 09:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Nimue Elaine wrote:
You're not the guy in that gif. . .

either way, i find it an acceptable way to wake up a good friend.
but only if breakfast is waiting.
tongue

"good morning! now that i've french kissed your nose, heres some french toast!"

Nov 16 12 09:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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Burlap Rats
Posts: 18,942
Riverside, California, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:

either way, i find it an acceptable way to wake up a good friend.
but only if breakfast is waiting.
tongue

"good morning! now that i've french kissed your nose, heres some french toast!"

Waffles or pancakes?

Nov 16 12 09:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Nimue Elaine wrote:

Waffles or pancakes?

yes.

Nov 16 12 09:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Burlap Rats
Posts: 18,942
Riverside, California, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:

yes.

Indeed.

Nov 16 12 09:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Fergy
Posts: 22,354
Fenton, Michigan, US


Yeah, they are proud of themselves and won't admit it but they do pat each other on the backs.


That is all I will say on this subject.  But I will send you *HUGS*.  If you ever need to vent feel free to message me anytime.  I promise never to judge.  XO
Nov 17 12 01:23 am  Link  Quote 
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Through Elizabeths Eyes
Posts: 4,916
Yelm, Washington, US


Fergy wrote:
Yeah, they are proud of themselves and won't admit it but they do pat each other on the backs.

I'm sorry.

You must have missed my post, and the posts agreeing with me, and the posts in the private thread agreeing with me (since you're all privy to it anyway).

No one is "proud" or patting themselves on the back for not being able to appropriately be honest to someone who repeatedly posts about how good/shitty their life is because the moderator team on this site has decided that only fluffy, rainbow filled glittery goodness can be posted.

We go places to say what needs to be said because we can't say it here. That doesn't make it any less relevant, or any less truthful. Several of you ALWAYS post in these "I'm homeless, help me" "Things are bad, pity me"  "People are being mean, stand up for me" threads.

Stand up for yourself.

Nov 17 12 01:30 am  Link  Quote 
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Fergy
Posts: 22,354
Fenton, Michigan, US


Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote:

I'm sorry.

You must have missed my post, and the posts agreeing with me, and the posts in the private thread agreeing with me (since you're all privy to it anyway).

No one is "proud" or patting themselves on the back for not being able to appropriately be honest to someone who repeatedly posts about how good/shitty their life is because the moderator team on this site has decided that only fluffy, rainbow filled glittery goodness can be posted.

We go places to say what needs to be said because we can't say it here. That doesn't make it any less relevant, or any less truthful. Several of you ALWAYS post in these "I'm homeless, help me" "Things are bad, pity me"  "People are being mean, stand up for me" threads.

Stand up for yourself.

You go somewhere and talk behind peoples backs, say what "needs to be said" because IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD TO DO IT.  If not why do it in the first place?

Nov 17 12 01:43 am  Link  Quote 
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Through Elizabeths Eyes
Posts: 4,916
Yelm, Washington, US


Fergy wrote:

You go somewhere and talk behind peoples backs, say what "needs to be said" because IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD TO DO IT.  If not why do it in the first place?

If I talked behind people's backs, would I be making these posts? The group was private. No matter the privacy level, I ALWAYS stand behind what I say, no matter where it was said.

She can come stand at my front door and I will say it. I'm less than two hours from her, she's welcome to it.

It doesn't make me feel good. It makes me feel accurate, especially when several people in the area are asking me what the hell is up with her. It makes me feel rational, logical, and sad. Like I said before.

All I know is what I know from her posts. If she wants people to help her, make a better judgement about what she's doing and the life she's living, then maybe she should post more about what she's doing other than skipping from boyfriend to boyfriend, becoming homeless frequently, and not having a job to support any of this.

If you want to try and parse what you feel is insulting, dramatic, or cruel from my posts, go ahead.

I have no fucks to give.

Nov 17 12 01:51 am  Link  Quote 
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Michael Broughton
Posts: 2,208
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


i feel proud of myself for not getting involved in whatever drama you guys are talking about.
Nov 17 12 04:00 am  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
Posts: 31,833
Quebec, Quebec, Canada


Nimue Elaine wrote:

I want a burger. sad

come and get one smile

Nov 17 12 07:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Kincaid Blackwood
Posts: 23,314
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote:
All I know is what I know from her posts. If she wants people to help her, make a better judgement about what she's doing and the life she's living, then maybe she should post more about what she's doing other than skipping from boyfriend to boyfriend, becoming homeless frequently, and not having a job to support any of this.

I'd hate to see this point ignored.  Regardless of what side of this discussion you are on, this quote illustrates something worth paying attention to.

I joined this site back in 2005 (I opened this profile two years later; the original is still active).  There are people who know personal things about me but that only comes from direct discussion.  I feel pretty confident that none of the people posting in this thread know much about me outside of the photography shown here.  I can also say with a fair degree of certainty that people don't give a shit about whatever else I do and aren't discussing me when I'm not around (you really have to not have a life and have exhausted all other subjects to resort to talking about me)

I'm okay with that.  In fact, that's the entire point.  If anyone brings my name up when I'm not around it's in regards to my work and only that (unless you happen to know me personally and have personal discussions with me).  That's because I control the message about me.  The message that is out there about you, Nimue, is illustrated in the above quote.  Like it or not.  If you wanted it to be different, then get a grip on what you're putting out there.  Some people might have a different outlook on your life but I've noticed a number of things in the threads you put up which validate the conclusions in the quote above. 

"Leave my kids out of it."  Look, I'm not on that facebook group so I can't speak to what was said there but people know you're a mother and they read the threads which discuss what's happening with you.  That bit of info (that you've got two sons) factors into any character assessments made about you along with whatever else can be read.  And the moment someone is asked to help you, people are going to make an evaluation based on the information on hand.  After doing so, some may offer assistance.  Some are going to offer "virtual hugs" (for whatever that is worth).  Some might say "She made that bed; time for her to lie in it.  I'll contribute to the local battered women's shelter instead."  Others might say "Have you read the latest thing??  Can you believe this shit?!  What balls she has!"

You really do control that.  This is more complex than any mention of your children.  If you presented things differently (or better yet, chose not to share some things) nobody would be discussing you or your children in the first place.

Nov 17 12 08:25 am  Link  Quote 
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MoRina
Posts: 5,665
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US


“Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people”

....Eleanor Roosevelt
Nov 17 12 08:51 am  Link  Quote 
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scrymettet
Posts: 31,833
Quebec, Quebec, Canada


MoRina wrote:
“Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people”

....Eleanor Roosevelt

+1

Nov 17 12 09:17 am  Link  Quote 
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Peter Claver
Posts: 26,657
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


MoRina wrote:
“Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people”

....Eleanor Roosevelt

i can't let the irony of this post go un-flagged.

And now I depart.

Nov 17 12 09:42 am  Link  Quote 
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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Great minds discuss ideas
Average minds discuss events
Small minds discuss people
Model Mayhemmers discuss eachother, bacon, boobs and cat pictures.

fixed.

Nov 17 12 09:45 am  Link  Quote 
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R_Marquez
Posts: 4,609
San Francisco, California, US


Peter Claver wrote:

i can't let the irony of this post go un-flagged.

And now I depart.

Ha! I thought the same.

Nov 17 12 10:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Gabrielle Heather
Posts: 10,064
Middle Island, New York, US


Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote:
I'm sorry.

You must have missed my post, and the posts agreeing with me, and the posts in the private thread agreeing with me (since you're all privy to it anyway).

No one is "proud" or patting themselves on the back for not being able to appropriately be honest to someone who repeatedly posts about how good/shitty their life is because the moderator team on this site has decided that only fluffy, rainbow filled glittery goodness can be posted.

We go places to say what needs to be said because we can't say it here. That doesn't make it any less relevant, or any less truthful. Several of you ALWAYS post in these "I'm homeless, help me" "Things are bad, pity me"  "People are being mean, stand up for me" threads.

Stand up for yourself.

Missed those. Im not "privy." Im over here crying about it too. I am with Mr. Michael Braughten on this one. You can say whatever you want here.


edit: you just have to expect people to judge you

Nov 17 12 10:19 am  Link  Quote 
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Poses
Posts: 8,139
Kansas City, Missouri, US


I think that the best way to get help and support from people is to ask them privately for whatever they can lend a hand (or ear) with. Think of specific things that would help you with your life (a secondhand business outfit for an interview or a ride somewhere, for example), and ask people who might be able to help you out.

It's really understandable to want to rant about your life, but there are outlets that might be better suited...surely there are online (and offline) communities with women in your specific situation can discuss how to improve their lives.

I don't know much about your life than what I read when I lurk in SF2. I used to be very dramatic and reveal personal information...now, not so much. I think things are better for me because of this change. I don't think anyone who knows my life (both past and present) would say that I don't have challenges, just like everyone else. Maybe not to your extent, though.
Nov 17 12 10:25 am  Link  Quote 
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Through Elizabeths Eyes
Posts: 4,916
Yelm, Washington, US


Gabrielle Heather wrote:

Missed those. Im not "privy." Im over here crying about it too. I am with Mr. Michael Braughten on this one. You can say whatever you want here.


edit: you just have to expect people to judge you

Most of the people not saying it here aren't concerned with people judging them.

They're concerned with getting brigged or banned for speaking their minds.

Nov 17 12 10:31 am  Link  Quote 
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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote:
They're concerned with getting brigged or banned for speaking their minds.

what is it with the internet that causes people to think their opinion matters? why the need to say anything?

isnt the neat thing about the internet, the fact that (for the most part) you control the content in front of you?

sure theres places where people can say whatever they want, i understand the need to rant/vent, but why does that cause other people to become "experts"? is that what they do for entertainment?

Nov 17 12 12:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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Little Queenie
Posts: 6,213
Indio, California, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:
what is it with the internet that causes people to think their opinion matters? why the need to say anything?

sure theres places where people can say whatever they want, i understand the need to rant/vent, but why does that cause other people to become "experts"? is that what they do for entertainment?

Agreed!


Sure you can form an opinion about a person by something they posted on the internet but why do you care so much (which you obviously do because as of today you people were still talking about her)? of course she doesnt have to care about what you think but that doesn't make words less hurtful especially when someone is already vaulnerable. If you don't give a fuck that's fine, but why are you still talking about it? Why are you talking to other people about it?

I'm going to be defensive because she's been my friend for almost 15 years. And the things that were and still are being said are so assumptive and inaccurate it's almost laughable that anyone is still wasting an iota of time gossiping about someone and something they essentially know nothing about.

No one looks good or mature in this situation, on both sides. So here's a suggestion, how about everyone just shuts up about it and moves on? Is that really hard? Because that would be the mature thing to do and you all owe to your age to act it. (Everyone on every side) I'm sure you all have lives that span beyond the confines of an Internet forum.

And that's the last I'm going to say about that.

Nov 17 12 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Burlap Rats
Posts: 18,942
Riverside, California, US


Michael Broughton wrote:
i feel proud of myself for not getting involved in whatever drama you guys are talking about.

Smartest man alive.

Nov 17 12 02:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Through Elizabeths Eyes
Posts: 4,916
Yelm, Washington, US


Paolo Diavolo wrote:

what is it with the internet that causes people to think their opinion matters? why the need to say anything?

isnt the neat thing about the internet, the fact that (for the most part) you control the content in front of you?

sure theres places where people can say whatever they want, i understand the need to rant/vent, but why does that cause other people to become "experts"? is that what they do for entertainment?

When the internet leaves the internet, and invades real life.

That's when it matters.

Nov 17 12 02:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kincaid Blackwood
Posts: 23,314
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Little Queenie wrote:
…but why do you care so much (which you obviously do because as of today you people were still talking about her)?  If you don't give a fuck that's fine, but why are you still talking about it?

(Everyone on every side) I'm sure you all have lives that span beyond the confines of an Internet forum.

I largely agree with you but there are holes in such a stance.  If someone on a reality TV show invites a camera crew to tape their lives 24/7 to air it on prime time and says to viewers criticizing him/her based on the show "Why do you care so much?!" people would view such a query with a legitimate level of incredulity.

If you (not you specifically, but general "you") put a lot of your business online for all to read, it makes it tough for you to challenge anyone's concern with your business.  Sharing info in a public forum is based on the pretense that readers will care.  People (in general) are okay with others paying attention so long as the attention is positive but that's not always the case.  When it's negative, suddenly out come the Why-do-you-give-a-fucks.  Well, you put it out there hoping I'd give one, otherwise keep it to yourself or privately share it with those you hold dear.

Sure, we all have lives.  We all have other shit that we could be doing than playing verbal grabass in SF2.  That goes for people who read and discuss information as well as those who post and share the info discussed.

Nov 17 12 03:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paolo Diavolo
Posts: 8,269
Pleasant Hill, California, US


Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote:
When the internet leaves the internet, and invades real life.

That's when it matters.

i think this happened, because there are an invasion of cats all over my house doing cute things and asking if i haz cheezburgers.

Nov 17 12 05:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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