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Jade Aurora
Posts: 40
Detroit, Michigan, US


Hello everyone.

This Saturday, I will be shooting my first set to submit to Suicide Girls. Here's to hoping I get accepted smile
Dec 10 12 05:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Orcatek Photography
Posts: 1,689
Tempe, Arizona, US


Good luck, have fun.  Hope you have a good theme.  They like unique themes a lot.
Dec 10 12 05:10 am  Link  Quote 
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studio36uk
Posts: 21,791
Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna


Oh, nooos!!!

Studio36
Dec 10 12 07:05 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Jade Aurora
Posts: 40
Detroit, Michigan, US


studio36uk wrote:
Oh, nooos!!!

Studio36

Why what's the matter?

Dec 10 12 08:08 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Kev Lawson
Posts: 7,477
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


studio36uk wrote:
Oh, nooos!!!

Studio36

Jade Aurora wrote:
Why what's the matter?

I think he is referring to thier reputation etc... maybe read some of these threads:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=72420 *mainly for photogs - but still
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=866302
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=850644
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=167168
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=840534
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=790815
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=786459

those should give you an idea why he said what he said

Dec 10 12 08:51 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Juniper Tree Photo
Posts: 51
Piqua, Ohio, US


Good luck withy ruining your modeling career before it even gets off the ground, and by trying to get on a site that is outdated and passe....
Dec 10 12 08:53 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Alixx Rose
Posts: 225
Atlanta, Georgia, US


^^^^^ that person is a hater.
yay! and congrats! let us know how it went,
oh and pics or it didn't happen!
=]
Dec 10 12 09:02 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Frances Jewel
Posts: 9,149
Dayton, Ohio, US


Alixx Rose wrote:
^^^^^ that person is a hater.
yay! and congrats! let us know how it went,
oh and pics or it didn't happen!
=]

NO, that person knows that SG kills modeling careers. If you aren't informed on the discussion at hand, don't add nonsense.

Dec 10 12 09:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Coogan Photo
Posts: 820
Phoenix, Arizona, US


SG contract is a terrible deal for photographers.
Dec 10 12 09:25 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Frances Jewel
Posts: 9,149
Dayton, Ohio, US


Coogan Photo wrote:
SG contract is a terrible deal for photographers.

models as well....

Dec 10 12 09:28 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Lily Darling
Posts: 1,299
Lansing, Michigan, US


Frances Jewel wrote:

NO, that person knows that SG kills modeling careers. If you aren't informed on the discussion at hand, don't add nonsense.

+1

Dec 10 12 09:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Shandra Stark
Posts: 13,612
Los Angeles, California, US


I don't know why so many of you try to be helpful, anymore.

I read the contract when I was 18, laughed...thought, NO WAY... and that was the end of it. 

Any single person who goes into business with them deserves everything they get.  SG isn't hiding anything.  It's all spelled out.
Dec 10 12 03:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 36,543
Columbus, Ohio, US


Alixx Rose wrote:
^^^^^ that person is a hater.
yay! and congrats! let us know how it went,
oh and pics or it didn't happen!
=]

No....^^^^that person is a realist.

Dec 10 12 04:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
angel emily
Posts: 1,020
Boston, Massachusetts, US


It's fine -- if that's all that model wants to be.

Good luck.
Dec 10 12 05:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 12,781
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Frances Jewel wrote:

NO, that person knows that SG kills modeling careers. If you aren't informed on the discussion at hand, don't add nonsense.

QFT

Dec 10 12 05:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Alixx Rose
Posts: 225
Atlanta, Georgia, US


well my bad I guess
Dec 10 12 07:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
JazzlynKirkland
Posts: 1
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Congrats ! I wish you all the best of luck smile
Dec 10 12 07:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Jade Aurora
Posts: 40
Detroit, Michigan, US


model emily  wrote:
It's fine -- if that's all that model wants to be.

Good luck.

And what is THAT supposed to mean?

Dec 10 12 08:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,327
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


OP, people are trying to tell you that being a SG isn't all that fun and rainbows and unicorns... That's all. It's not really worth it most of the time.
Dec 10 12 08:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Leonard Gee Photography
Posts: 16,317
Sacramento, California, US


Jade Aurora wrote:
And what is THAT supposed to mean?

Read the contract.

Dec 10 12 08:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,327
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Leonard Gee Photography wrote:

Read the contract.

Yeah, that too.

Dec 10 12 08:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Christopher Carter
Posts: 7,671
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


Yes, read the contract. I toyed with the idea of applying to shoot for SG. But then I discovered this amazing site called google.
Dec 10 12 08:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
egyptmachine
Posts: 11,364
El Paso, Texas, US


dang you know I haven't read the contract since 04, lol. Is it still the same or worse now? Can I get some cliff notes? wink
Dec 10 12 08:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,786
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


OP, why do you want to be a SG? Is it a personal goal, or do you think it will help further your modeling career?
Dec 10 12 09:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Michael Broughton
Posts: 2,229
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif
Dec 10 12 09:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AG_Boston
Posts: 345
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Michael Broughton wrote:
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7400000/Abe-Simpson-walking-in-and-out-the-simpsons-7414427-320-240.gif

HA HA HA HA!!! That's one of the best scenes ever!

I've heard nothing good about shooting for SG.

Dec 10 12 09:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
EdwardKristopher
Posts: 3,375
Tempe, Arizona, US


:-)
Dec 10 12 10:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Frances Jewel
Posts: 9,149
Dayton, Ohio, US


clipped from OP profile "I am interested in fashion, print, glamour, art, and pinup modeling. I will NOT do any shoots that are sexually explicit, so don't ask. I am very open to new and creative ideas."

OP, have you seen SG? Also, it is an alt modeling site, you are not "alt" at all....
Dec 10 12 10:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AG_Boston
Posts: 345
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Frances Jewel wrote:
clipped from OP profile "I am interested in fashion, print, glamour, art, and pinup modeling. I will NOT do any shoots that are sexually explicit, so don't ask. I am very open to new and creative ideas."

OP, have you seen SG? Also, it is an alt modeling site, you are not "alt" at all....

I find a number of models who say they won't shoot nudes, yet their profiles contain plenty of nudes. So maybe the OP is ok with an SG shoot?

Dec 10 12 10:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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Frances Jewel
Posts: 9,149
Dayton, Ohio, US


AG_Boston wrote:

I find a number of models who say they won't shoot nudes, yet their profiles contain plenty of nudes. So maybe the OP is ok with an SG shoot?

Nudes and porn are different animals, my friend. SG is porn

Dec 10 12 10:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
EdwardKristopher
Posts: 3,375
Tempe, Arizona, US


Suicide Girl Shoots aren't Porn, yet they are very explicit.  :-)
Dec 10 12 10:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Frances Jewel
Posts: 9,149
Dayton, Ohio, US


EdwardKristopher wrote:
Suicide Girl Shoots aren't Porn, yet they are very explicit.  :-)

guys masturbate to it, it's porn. lol

Dec 10 12 10:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
C h a r l e s D
Posts: 9,304
Los Angeles, California, US


EdwardKristopher wrote:
Suicide Girl Shoots aren't Porn, yet they are very explicit.  :-)

It is the very definition of porn.  Do you know the definition of pornography? Yes, SG is porn.  It's only purpose is to elicit a sexual response.  It isn't even trying to be arty, or glamorous.  Geez.

Dec 10 12 10:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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AG_Boston
Posts: 345
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Frances Jewel wrote:

guys masturbate to it, it's porn. lol

The same can be said of many lingerie catalogs, probably the SI swimsuit issue and a whole deal of other fine publications. Do we define those as porn too?

I haven't seen a full SG shoot. I thought the women were just nude and standing/sitting around posing...is it more than that? I'm far too "frugal" to pay for the service to see the full shoots.

Dec 10 12 10:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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C h a r l e s D
Posts: 9,304
Los Angeles, California, US


For those not familiar with the English fucking language:

Is Webster's Dictionary good enough for you?

Definition of PORNOGRAPHY

1
: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2
: material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3
: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction

Again, SG is THE DEFINITION of pornography.  There is NO other definition of the work posted on Suicide Girls.
Get a clue.
I can't post links to porn, but it's not difficult to find the site.
Dec 10 12 10:45 pm  Link  Quote 
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EdwardKristopher
Posts: 3,375
Tempe, Arizona, US


AG_Boston wrote:

The same can be said of many lingerie catalogs, probably the SI swimsuit issue and a whole deal of other fine publications. Do we define those as porn too?

I haven't seen a full SG shoot. I thought the women were just nude and standing/sitting around posing...is it more than that? I'm far too "frugal" to pay for the service to see the full shoots.

There are no Males in any of the SG Pictures.  It's like you said above!  I don't recall the exact words of the Supreme Court Justice who stated something to the effect; 'I don't know how to define it, yet I know it when I see it.'  If we were to show the Lingerie Pictures, the SI Swimsuit Issue or the Victoria Secret Catalogs back when I was growing up it would have been branded Porn.

The SG shoots and their demands may not be best for the photographers, yet it's about the girls that want to do it!

Porn!  :-)

Come now, the puritanical flags seem to be raising a bit high here!

Dec 10 12 10:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
EdwardKristopher
Posts: 3,375
Tempe, Arizona, US


Why don't we stop our conversation and get back to the OP, as this is what this thread is supposed to be about!

We all wish you the Best of Success as you begin your start!

Kindest regards,
Edward
Dec 10 12 10:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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C h a r l e s D
Posts: 9,304
Los Angeles, California, US


What is an orange?  What is your definition of the fruit we call an orange?

Why are you so willfully clueless? 

While we are not Supreme Court justices, we with Internet access DO know how to define it!  We with dictionaries DO know how to define it.  We are all trying to communicate in the English language here.  Words have definitions.  While some other sites can be debated on their content, SG isn't one of them.  We are not redefining the word.  It isn't even a difference of opinion.  SG is porn.  By definition.
Dec 10 12 10:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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EdwardKristopher
Posts: 3,375
Tempe, Arizona, US


C h a r l e s  D wrote:
What is an orange?  What is your definition of the fruit we call an orange?

Why are you so willfully clueless? 

We are all trying to communicate in the English language here.  Words have definitions.  While some other sites can be debated on their content, SG isn't one of them.  We are not redefining terms.  It isn't even a difference of opinion.  SG is porn.  By definition.

There are much more "Erotic" shots on MM than there are on SG.  Are you saying that MM allows Porn on their site?

Really, now?  Willfully clueless?  ;-)

Dec 10 12 10:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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C h a r l e s D
Posts: 9,304
Los Angeles, California, US


Not a single judge, juror, or hardened porn producer would look at the 18+ contest and say, "Nope, no porn there."  Obviously, there's a lot of porn on this site. 

Yes, you're willfully clueless.

The owners and moderators push the boundaries, and they know it.  Would you like me to quote the Oxford English Dictionary?  Or another source?  How many English language dictionaries would you like the DEFINITION from?

Please, don't tell me you've formed your understanding of the English language from Model Mayhem?
Dec 10 12 11:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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