OP, people are trying to tell you that being a SG isn't all that fun and rainbows and unicorns... That's all. It's not really worth it most of the time.
clipped from OP profile "I am interested in fashion, print, glamour, art, and pinup modeling. I will NOT do any shoots that are sexually explicit, so don't ask. I am very open to new and creative ideas."
OP, have you seen SG? Also, it is an alt modeling site, you are not "alt" at all....
Frances Jewel wrote: clipped from OP profile "I am interested in fashion, print, glamour, art, and pinup modeling. I will NOT do any shoots that are sexually explicit, so don't ask. I am very open to new and creative ideas."
OP, have you seen SG? Also, it is an alt modeling site, you are not "alt" at all....
I find a number of models who say they won't shoot nudes, yet their profiles contain plenty of nudes. So maybe the OP is ok with an SG shoot?
EdwardKristopher wrote: Suicide Girl Shoots aren't Porn, yet they are very explicit. :-)
It is the very definition of porn. Do you know the definition of pornography? Yes, SG is porn. It's only purpose is to elicit a sexual response. It isn't even trying to be arty, or glamorous. Geez.
The same can be said of many lingerie catalogs, probably the SI swimsuit issue and a whole deal of other fine publications. Do we define those as porn too?
I haven't seen a full SG shoot. I thought the women were just nude and standing/sitting around posing...is it more than that? I'm far too "frugal" to pay for the service to see the full shoots.
For those not familiar with the English fucking language:
Is Webster's Dictionary good enough for you?
Definition of PORNOGRAPHY
1
: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2
: material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3
: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <the pornography of violence>
Again, SG is THE DEFINITION of pornography. There is NO other definition of the work posted on Suicide Girls.
Get a clue.
I can't post links to porn, but it's not difficult to find the site.
The same can be said of many lingerie catalogs, probably the SI swimsuit issue and a whole deal of other fine publications. Do we define those as porn too?
I haven't seen a full SG shoot. I thought the women were just nude and standing/sitting around posing...is it more than that? I'm far too "frugal" to pay for the service to see the full shoots.
There are no Males in any of the SG Pictures. It's like you said above! I don't recall the exact words of the Supreme Court Justice who stated something to the effect; 'I don't know how to define it, yet I know it when I see it.' If we were to show the Lingerie Pictures, the SI Swimsuit Issue or the Victoria Secret Catalogs back when I was growing up it would have been branded Porn.
The SG shoots and their demands may not be best for the photographers, yet it's about the girls that want to do it!
Porn! :-)
Come now, the puritanical flags seem to be raising a bit high here!
What is an orange? What is your definition of the fruit we call an orange?
Why are you so willfully clueless?
While we are not Supreme Court justices, we with Internet access DO know how to define it! We with dictionaries DO know how to define it. We are all trying to communicate in the English language here. Words have definitions. While some other sites can be debated on their content, SG isn't one of them. We are not redefining the word. It isn't even a difference of opinion. SG is porn. By definition.
C h a r l e s D wrote: What is an orange? What is your definition of the fruit we call an orange?
Why are you so willfully clueless?
We are all trying to communicate in the English language here. Words have definitions. While some other sites can be debated on their content, SG isn't one of them. We are not redefining terms. It isn't even a difference of opinion. SG is porn. By definition.
There are much more "Erotic" shots on MM than there are on SG. Are you saying that MM allows Porn on their site?
Not a single judge, juror, or hardened porn producer would look at the 18+ contest and say, "Nope, no porn there." Obviously, there's a lot of porn on this site.
Yes, you're willfully clueless.
The owners and moderators push the boundaries, and they know it. Would you like me to quote the Oxford English Dictionary? Or another source? How many English language dictionaries would you like the DEFINITION from?
Please, don't tell me you've formed your understanding of the English language from Model Mayhem?