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TJ Day
Posts: 1,804
Murray, Kentucky, US


So I ran into this site called You Are Not A Photographer.

It is a huge collection of photoshop and photo massacres. I hope no one here has any photos there, but I somehow think...

Anyway, many of the photos appear to have been taken from public photographer Facebook pages.

I guess it is real easy to blame photographers for crappy ideas, but some of the things posted on this site clearly show that the "client" has specifically asked to have their pictures hacked all to shit, thus making a mediocre photographer into a crappy photochopper.

I guess what I walk away with, after having seen the disasters on the website, was that photoshop can be used as a weapon of mass destruction in the wrong hands.

In my early days, I thought that I could use photoshop to save an otherwise uninteresting, poorly composed, crappy shot.  Occasionally I am still guilty of this crime.

But after seeing this site full of disasters, I am going to think twice about "artistic" alterations or manipulations in the future.
Jan 10 13 12:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
L Bass
Posts: 957
Nacogdoches, Texas, US


Maybe that's why I don't use Photoshop. I'm afraid I'd do more harm than good. I've played with a couple of lesser programs and soon realized... I'm nowhere near being able to call myself a digital artist or photo retoucher.
Jan 10 13 01:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Caveman Creations
Posts: 580
Fort Worth, Texas, US


L Bass wrote:
Maybe that's why I don't use Photoshop. I'm afraid I'd do more harm than good. I've played with a couple of lesser programs and soon realized... I'm nowhere near being able to call myself a digital artist or photo retoucher.

+1 Why I normally pay for such services! big_smile (bows in respect to Retouchers.....)

And, another good reason to make sure no one touches your photos after delivery. Who say's every photo on aforementioned site was delivered that way? I would hate to see some of my stuff on there hacked to pieces! hmm

Jan 11 13 06:00 am  Link  Quote 
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KonstantKarma
Posts: 2,513
Hickory, North Carolina, US


It's a great site, someone posted it here last year and I bookmarked it.


A lot of the photos come from modelmayhem members and facebook 'photography' pages.  Ironically, I had one of them do a comment trade with me here the same day his was featured on the site.

No, I did not comment "I saw this pic today somewhere else too!" lol

The guy certainly has his dislikes - Selective coloring is a no. Nasty baby bumps (bad angles, light, things that make them look gross versus motherly) are a no. Horrible 'shopping is a no. Nothing in focus is a no. Random props that don't make sense are a no.

I've found looking at truly horrible photographs helps me improve my skills just as much as looking at great ones.
Jan 11 13 07:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ivan123
Posts: 877
Arlington, Virginia, US


Thanks for putting me onto this site.  It is funny, until you see the 100th one, then it starts to get more than a little sad.  I agree, a great way to learn how to make good photographs is to study bad ones, but if you are so bad you can learn much from these, chances are you are so clueless you do not realize just how bad you are. 

It is a general problem.  Read this article very carefully, if you think it applies to you, then it doesn't;  if you think it does not apply to you, then it does:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 … dilemma-1/
Jan 11 13 01:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
NYMPH
Posts: 623
Oakland, California, US


That is rather delightfully hilarious. Thank you for introducing it to us! Though, I would be horribly horrified if one of my old, old shots from when I was wee youngin' without much sense shows up there.
Jan 11 13 01:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
my_other_profile
Posts: 666
Ankeny, Iowa, US


Like.
Jan 11 13 02:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Erik Ballew
Posts: 718
Westminster, Colorado, US


Glad they haven't found me yet!!
Jan 11 13 03:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
PWF Retouch
Posts: 290
Jacksonville, North Carolina, US


I have been crawling over this site for nearly an hour. Too funny! lol.
Jan 11 13 04:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
EddieSteph
Posts: 1
Rock Creek, Ohio, US


Wow.  As an amateur photographer and user of photoshop, I am so glad to say my work is much better than that . . .  Whew . . . (although the bar there is set so low)
Very entertaining and educational on what not to do : )
Jan 12 13 06:29 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Three Cats Photography
Posts: 848
Atlanta, Georgia, US


I looked at this site fearing that one of my photos will be on the next page smile
Jan 12 13 07:17 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Schmidt
Posts: 3,680
Greensboro, North Carolina, US


People in general . . . don't care.  It's why it makes us mad when we are truly striving for art and balance.
Jan 12 13 07:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cody Augustine
Posts: 60
Vancouver, Washington, US


I've been following that site for a while, its a hoot!

Another humorous one is MWACattack on Youtube.  She seems to tutor the 3 month camera owners turning pro and has a crazy fan base.  Its amazing how many folks take her seriously!
Jan 12 13 08:01 am  Link  Quote 
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Passion for Fashion
Posts: 4
Memphis, Tennessee, US


Great site! I spent/wasted way too much time browsing through it! lol
Jan 12 13 08:03 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


I'm debating checking the site out but after reading the comments I'm not sure if I need another distraction that's going to suck me in. Aww who am I fooling...heading there now.
Jan 12 13 08:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12,116
Tampa, Florida, US


Well worth the visit just for the Magical Violin image. "This is no ordinary instrument! It glows like this when Orcs are near!"

The comments are priceless.
Jan 12 13 08:22 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AG_Boston
Posts: 345
Boston, Massachusetts, US


Wow that was funny.
Jan 12 13 10:04 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Eros Fine Art Photo
Posts: 2,592
Torrance, California, US


You won't learn ANYTHING by wasting your time looking at crappy images.  All you'll do, when it comes time for you to do a shoot, is develop a case of creative block, because you have nothing to serve as inspiration.

The site is good for a laugh, but be careful not to spend too much time looking out for the same thing in other portfolios.  Otherwise, your stuff just might end up there one day.

Just my opinion.
Jan 12 13 10:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DG at studio47
Posts: 2,365
East Ridge, Tennessee, US


I know just enough about Photoshop to be dangerous. However, I made a decision when I began shooting to keep the raw images along with my PS work. I can go back to the totally unedited image at anytime. I have an album on FB that is titled Before and After. I always find the original vs edited images the most fascinating.
Jan 12 13 10:15 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 2,771
London, England, United Kingdom


I always wondered why selective colour was a "no-no", now i know.
Jan 13 13 04:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Catherdr
Posts: 61
Valdosta, Georgia, US


Darren Brade wrote:
I always wondered why selective colour was a "no-no", now i know.

+100

Jan 13 13 05:18 am  Link  Quote 
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Robb Mann
Posts: 10,381
Baltimore, Maryland, US


My all-time favorite faux move often occurs on this site, in the photography section. When talking about a particular lens and how sharp it is, someone will put up a pic where the subject has been Gaussian-blurred into plastic - to show how sharp it is. Head desk.
Jan 13 13 05:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
David J Martin
Posts: 458
Amberg, Bavaria, Germany


Maybe some pro got tired of crappy guys like me taking photos and decided to call us out.
Jan 13 13 05:58 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Harold Rose
Posts: 2,925
Calhoun, Georgia, US


L Bass wrote:
Maybe that's why I don't use Photoshop. I'm afraid I'd do more harm than good. I've played with a couple of lesser programs and soon realized... I'm nowhere near being able to call myself a digital artist or photo retoucher.

Yes it takes some time to learn to do photo retouching,   in the 40's most retouching was done on the film,.  and finished up on the prints.  Many new tricks were thought up over the years,   Photoshop,  is not some thing new.  It is just the old methods adapted to computer..   Thank Heaven,  it is so much easier,  Yes if you expect to be a pro,,  expect to apply the time and effort..

Jan 13 13 05:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Porsche Jones
Posts: 206
Portsmouth, New Hampshire, US


TJ Day wrote:
I guess it is real easy to blame photographers for crappy ideas, but some of the things posted on this site clearly show that the "client" has specifically asked to have their pictures hacked all to shit, thus making a mediocre photographer into a crappy photochopper.

There is an episode of My Little Pony about this.  Specifically in which Rarity is pressured by her clients (the other ponies) to abandon her creative instincts in favor of their guidance because "the customer is always right."  Then, when the art critic pony comes to her show, he is repulsed by her schizophrenic portfolio and over-the-top designs.

Episode 14, "Suited for Success."  Also see the song, "The Art of the Dress."

I just felt this needed to be said as it is an extremely relevant expose of the issue at hand.

Jan 13 13 06:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
O Team Photography
Posts: 40
Duncan, British Columbia, Canada


We've seen the site as well - it was posted on Fark sometime back. None of our photos were there (thank the Goddess - I guess he just missed us). Joe does not do photoshop, Nancy does and does it very well.  She has been working on sharpening her skills for several years and now does photographic restoration in addition to all the rest.
Jan 13 13 06:30 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KonstantKarma
Posts: 2,513
Hickory, North Carolina, US


I have the mindset that we all start somewhere, and god knows I still suck.

But a lot of these photos are just, "what the EFF were you thinking? This is not okay."
Jan 13 13 06:34 am  Link  Quote 
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