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Armando D Photography
Posts: 568
Houston, Texas, US


Being pretty invested in the canon area / 5d mkii , just adoring the color depth / dynamic range this sony a99 spits out.

unedited - camera jpg - only resized, no touch up.


a99 / sigma 15mm fisheye 2.8

I was really surprised how sharp the skin on my hand was when I used this lens with the camera.

http://www.armandophotography.net/DSC00542.jpg

a99 50mm 1.4 from sony - rooster was nice enough to llama for me ' ! big_smile

http://www.armandophotography.net/DSC00566.jpg

http://www.armandophotography.net/DSC00560.jpg

---- from about 2 days before - did edit the raw, but barely just resize , and a change of a color profile'{ bridge}

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130110/18/50ef7dd611e95.jpg


the main reason I chose this to compliment my 5d mkii , was that it brings in a different "life" in a photo, at times when I was deciding on this camera was how "medium format" the pictures look to me'
Jan 13 13 12:09 am  Link  Quote 
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Legacys 7
Posts: 33,807
San Francisco, California, US


Yes, it's an excellent camera. I have one.
Jan 13 13 06:05 am  Link  Quote 
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liddellphoto
Posts: 1,801
London, England, United Kingdom


I've not used one but the whole concept seems like an odd one, you still get most of the disadvantages of a slr and have to have an EVF. With on-chip phase detect af in some of sony and now fuji's cameras I can see the translucent mirror tech being replaced soon.
Jan 13 13 08:34 am  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
Posts: 17,306
Billings, Montana, US


liddellphoto wrote:
I've not used one but the whole concept seems like an odd one, you still get most of the disadvantages of a slr and have to have an EVF. With on-chip phase detect af in some of sony and now fuji's cameras I can see the translucent mirror tech being replaced soon.

I actually dig the EVF.  I know it sounds silly, but I like the face detection feature for this style of mirrorless camera for focusing, and it works in the viewfinder on these cameras (rather then just in live view).   I'm just not a fan of liveview on the rear screen, except for product shoots.

You can also "chimp" without taking the camera away from your eye, with a 1 second preview after the shot right in the EVF.

To me, what these cameras rock at is journalism and candid photos. Sure, they can do anything else as well, but they very well suited for natural light reportage style work.

Jan 13 13 08:43 am  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,533
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


liddellphoto wrote:
I've not used one but the whole concept seems like an odd one, you still get most of the disadvantages of a slr and have to have an EVF. With on-chip phase detect af in some of sony and now fuji's cameras I can see the translucent mirror tech being replaced soon.

I think you need to think outside of your normal box. when you write things like "have to have an EVF" it makes it seem a hardship.  it isnt.  In many cases having an OVF is a hardship but no one ever mentions it because we all got used to them. Once they use an EVF for a few days it becomes difficult to go back to an OVF because the limitations just hurt too much. No system is perfect, of course.

Jan 13 13 08:44 am  Link  Quote 
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Armando D Photography
Posts: 568
Houston, Texas, US


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
I think you need to think outside of your normal box. when you write things like "have to have an EVF" it makes it seem a hardship.  it isnt.  In many cases having an OVF is a hardship but no one ever mentions it because we all got used to them. Once they use an EVF for a few days it becomes difficult to go back to an OVF because the limitations just hurt too much. No system is perfect, of course.

Technique advantages (I could praise how great it looks looking but that's overdone)

1) when the lens in manual mode, focus peaking through the evf since that's how I comfortably shoot helped immensely

2) the clear leveler helps me to even shoots things straight on when looking through! Oh and the histogram through it is super helpful!

3) accuracy of what I see to taking the photo is accurate'

I'm pretty invested in canon, so I can't wait till the big companies start doing it' other than that it a great technical tool! It's just how I naturally merge with camera since starting with the ovf, yeah it's hard to go back'

Jan 13 13 09:54 am  Link  Quote 
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Leighthenubian
Posts: 2,807
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Can you take some pictures of people..next time?
Jan 13 13 09:57 am  Link  Quote 
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Armando D Photography
Posts: 568
Houston, Texas, US


Illuminate wrote:
Can you take some pictures of people..next time?

Will do smile just wanted some practice with it on random stuff' was a bit of learning curve from the canon menu / options.

Jan 13 13 10:54 am  Link  Quote 
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Legacys 7
Posts: 33,807
San Francisco, California, US


There's a rumor that Sony will no longer use the mirror. It'll be an evf camera. I like the slt cameras, but to me it seem pointless having that semi transparent mirror there. On the ovf, the purpose of the mirror was for the photographer to see what he's shooting.

I can use both ovf and evf. But I do like the evf technology. Especially the wysiwyg in the slt cameras.
Jan 13 13 11:19 am  Link  Quote 
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liddellphoto
Posts: 1,801
London, England, United Kingdom


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
I think you need to think outside of your normal box. when you write things like "have to have an EVF" it makes it seem a hardship.  it isnt.  In many cases having an OVF is a hardship but no one ever mentions it because we all got used to them. Once they use an EVF for a few days it becomes difficult to go back to an OVF because the limitations just hurt too much. No system is perfect, of course.

Indeed it is all personal, some people are ok with the current DR/res/refresh of EVFs but I feel they are still lacking in comparison to an OVF because I feel disconnected with the world when I look through them. Like you say there are many potential benefits to them though: focus peaking/false colour, live histograms, bright image in low light, larger size, but with current tech I and probably most others would take an OVF. My favourite viewfinder is the fuji hybrid, you get an OVF but with overlays.

I still think if you are going to dispense of an optical viewfinder at least get rid of the mirror too and the limitations it imposes. Personally I can't wait until the SLR dies and cameras are all mirrorless with amazing EVFs.

Jan 13 13 01:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Legacys 7
Posts: 33,807
San Francisco, California, US


liddellphoto wrote:

Indeed it is all personal, some people are ok with the current DR/res/refresh of EVFs but I feel they are still lacking in comparison to an OVF because I feel disconnected with the world when I look through them. Like you say there are many potential benefits to them though: focus peaking/false colour, live histograms, bright image in low light, larger size, but with current tech I and probably most others would take an OVF. My favourite viewfinder is the fuji hybrid, you get an OVF but with overlays.

I still think if you are going to dispense of an optical viewfinder at least get rid of the mirror too and the limitations it imposes. Personally I can't wait until the SLR dies and cameras are all mirrorless with amazing EVFs.

Most others or many? No one knows what the masses prefer. Speaking for myself, I don't mind the evf due to it being able to see in the dark unlike an ovf. There are other things that I like about the evf on the Sony. But overall, what I like are the dynamic range, accurate color, resolution, low noise in the high iso, full frame and several other non evf related things.

Jan 13 13 04:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ren Murray
Posts: 542
Salem, Oregon, US


I've had the a77 with an EVF for over a year now, and the only thing I can say is I am completely unaware of it when I am shooting. As a matter of fact, when shooting in very low light (weddings, etc) is the only time I do become aware of it, because it gains up and makes things easier to see and compose a shot. Yes, the image in the EVF becomes grainy, but I'll take grainy over not being able to see what I am shooting.

My a700 had a wonderful OVF (not as good as the a900/5d Mkii, etc), but I actually do prefer the EVF after shooting with it for so long.

Looking forward to picking up the a99 soon.
Jan 13 13 07:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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realistgva
Posts: 433
Plan-les-Ouates, Geneva, Switzerland


I replaced my Sony A850 with the A99, and then got a 2nd body on sale. This did not happen when I got the A77.

I kind of miss the 850 but when I am totally honest would I rather takes the 850 or 99 my answer 90% of the time would be the A99.

The EVF has some great benefits but it is just a tool. I shoot Ice hockey and shoot both the ICE and crowd. The setting could not be more different having the EVF I know right away if I have the wrong settings
1/800s instead of 160. In the breaks I shoot with the preview of and Flash in full manual mode.

If three was 1 thing to complain on the A99 I would moan about the ISO flash. I really liked the Minolta design more. It has never failed me in over 20 years and with the ISO I have had a few failed flash because in the crowd the flash got a strong knock. I can live with that.

The raw pictures are just so forgiving. I shot on Sunday morning a local soccer game inside at 2,500ISO and the files looked kinf of ok with a little help of Cspture pro and they look stunning (if only there was someting interesting in the framr)
Jan 14 13 07:51 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Armando D Photography wrote:
Being pretty invested in the canon area / 5d mkii , just adoring the color depth / dynamic range this sony a99 spits out.

Try setting the DRO to level one (or three) and see the added differences and smooth noiseless shadow details. wink

I LOVE the information that the EVF gives me over the old OVF's. As someone mentioned focus peaking, live histograms, bright image in low light, larger size, etc, are many of the info options available. For natural light photography, the "wysiwyg preview" it's the BEST!

And, until someone invents a way to "flash preview" (I'm sure it will be Sony! lol)...I think the current Sony EVF (from the translucent mirror) is the best thing going (for those folks that still have to have a viewfinder).

I use the LCD most of the time, because I like to "connect" (eye contact with the model) over the camera as I'm shooting (I also love that Facial Recognition!)

But the EVF is great when the sun is directly on the LCD or for shooting sports/fast moving kids.

Jan 14 13 08:39 am  Link  Quote 
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Armando D Photography
Posts: 568
Houston, Texas, US


ArtisticGlamour wrote:

Try setting the DRO to level one (or three) and see the added differences and smooth noiseless shadow details. wink

I LOVE the information that the EVF gives me over the old OVF's. As someone mentioned focus peaking, live histograms, bright image in low light, larger size, etc, are many of the info options available. For natural light photography, the "wysiwyg preview" it's the BEST!

And, until someone invents a way to "flash preview" (I'm sure it will be Sony! lol)...I think the current Sony EVF (from the translucent mirror) is the best thing going (for those folks that still have to have a viewfinder).

I use the LCD most of the time, because I like to "connect" (eye contact with the model) over the camera as I'm shooting...but the EVF is great when the sun is directly on the LCD or whatever.

cool will give it a go smile

Jan 14 13 08:57 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Armando D Photography wrote:
cool will give it a go smile

You will love the noiseless details and smooth shadow transitions the DRO brings out of the shadows! (Jpegs)

I have (love) both the a55 and a77, and I know the a99 (full frame) is even better in many ways (like a full stop of brightness/sensitivity at wide open)! I used to shoot with the old a350 with the optical viewfinder...and it took about 10minutes for me to fall in love with the new EVF when transitioning to the a55/a77. I wouldn't want to go back to OVF!

If I was only shooting modelling/wedding photography I would love the a99's full frame...but for the Arizona/Alaska wildlife photography, I wanted the extra "reach" of the cropped sensor with my current 70-300mm(G) lens. I couldn't afford the a99 -and- a good 500mm lens for it!

Jan 14 13 08:58 am  Link  Quote 
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Legacys 7
Posts: 33,807
San Francisco, California, US


Bump.
Jan 16 13 07:32 am  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Armando D Photography wrote:
a99 50mm 1.4 from sony
http://www.armandophotography.net/DSC00566.jpg

Armando, are you shooting RAW and converting or using the in-camera Jpegs? Try this same shot with the DRO set to level 3...and check out the face/shadows.

Jan 16 13 03:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Flick
Posts: 1,577
London, England, United Kingdom


I love my A99. It will get its first outing in the snow this weekend :-)
Jan 16 13 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Silver Thunderbird
Posts: 29
Temecula, California, US


I recently upgraded to the A99 and picked up some new glass to match. I killed a couple of hours today at a nearby botanical garden, shooting exclusively with the manual Sony 135mm 2.8 [T4.5] STF lens. Focus peaking helps so much, plus the zoom magnifier, that I found myself being more calculating with my shots. I'm still getting used to the camera overall, but I'm liking it thus far.

Sunday will be my first chance to use it with models.
Jan 16 13 09:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Pictus
Posts: 993
Teresópolis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil


Wow! The 135 STF RuleZ!! Best bokeh of the universe smile

Guys I want to see your A99 photos!!!

BTW, chickens are good for pest control not only as models... smile
Jan 17 13 05:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jody Hess
Posts: 40
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I haven't used a Sony dslr, but I'm really tempted to get one for the in-camera stabilization. How does that work for you guys (especially compared to lens stabilization)?
Jan 17 13 07:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,533
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


Jody Hess wrote:
I haven't used a Sony dslr, but I'm really tempted to get one for the in-camera stabilization. How does that work for you guys (especially compared to lens stabilization)?

you cant really make a comparison.  bottom line they both work and work well.  you get a few extra stops.  you dont get 4 or 5 like some of the vendors claim. but 2-3 is easy.  there are all sorts of theoretical treatises floating around in support of one or the other. there are all sorts of cost comparisons.  but no one has done a reliable test comparing the two.  For me and my shaky hands, in-body stabilization was a must to start out.    I can't imagine having to think and pick and choose when swapping lenses.  But the people VR/IS/etc cant imagine having a single point of failure with in body SSS.

Jan 17 13 09:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Jody Hess wrote:
I haven't used a Sony dslr, but I'm really tempted to get one for the in-camera stabilization. How does that work for you guys (especially compared to lens stabilization)?

Works Excellent! And it works on all the old Minolta ($50/Thrift shop) lenses. smile a350, a55, and a77...love them all. Never a problem with any of them, very reliable in heat and cold, dust and rain. Never an issue. Years of reliable cameras so far...and more if you count the Minolta accessories that are compatible.

Jan 17 13 09:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Images by MR
Posts: 7,611
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


It would be nice if this was posted in the critique forum to give feedback on your samples..

~ MR
Jan 17 13 09:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Images by MR wrote:
It would be nice if this was posted in the critique forum to give feedback on

I don't think he was putting them out there for artistic critique. Although I am curious if the Chicken felt it needed an escort, and is it clucking already for it's TF* images?

Jan 17 13 09:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,533
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


Images by MR wrote:
It would be nice if this was posted in the critique forum to give feedback on your samples..

~ MR

you feel a need to critique?  This is a thread about a particular camera, not an invitation to join camera wars. More important, I question why you feel a need to critique. The OP clearly didn't ask for a critique on either their skills as a photographer or the results they achieved. the were merely expression their view (as a Canon FF shooter) about the Sony. Ssuggesting a critique any time its not requested is just plain insulting.  with the amount of posts you have on here you should know better by now, no?  Or are you a Nikon shooter ?

Jan 18 13 12:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Inspiring Expressions
Posts: 2
Rapid City, Michigan, US


I was glad to see this. I shoot with the A65 above water and The A55 underwater (In an Ikelite housing) Love the high speed and low light abilities. I was afraid to go look at the A99 because I knew I would want one. Now you guys got me going to look at one tomorrow.
Jan 18 13 03:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Inspiring Expressions
Posts: 2
Rapid City, Michigan, US


Just curious? I don't like flash. So I bought three of these because they use the same battery as my A65. Love them! Any body else tried them

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 … Video.html
Jan 18 13 03:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Images by MR
Posts: 7,611
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Images by MR wrote:
It would be nice if this was posted in the critique forum to give feedback on your samples..

~ MR
AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
you feel a need to critique?  This is a thread about a particular camera, not an invitation to join camera wars. More important, I question why you feel a need to critique. The OP clearly didn't ask for a critique on either their skills as a photographer or the results they achieved. the were merely expression their view (as a Canon FF shooter) about the Sony. Ssuggesting a critique any time its not requested is just plain insulting.  with the amount of posts you have on here you should know better by now, no?  Or are you a Nikon shooter ?

Not sure how suggesting it would be nice if this was posted in the critique forum where we're able to give simple feedback on the photos posted is insulting... nor do I understand what it has to do with the number of posts I've made or the camera I use.   

~ MR

Jan 19 13 05:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,533
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


Images by MR wrote:

Images by MR wrote:
It would be nice if this was posted in the critique forum to give feedback on your samples..

~ MR

Not sure how suggesting it would be nice if this was posted in the critique forum where we're able to give simple feedback on the photos posted is insulting... nor do I understand what it has to do with the number of posts I've made or the camera I use.   

~ MR

OK  I'll be more blunt.  With the number of posts you have, you should know the rules by now.  Since you suggested it go in critique it means you know the rules.  so you have both experience of knowledge of how things work.  there fore...you can't claim mistake.   Knowing the rules means you know you can't critique here.  So suggesting they post somewhere means you know the rules and wanna get around them because...you wanna critique.    You are essentially saying "I dare you to post it there". that's fkn insulting.  Had the OP wanted critique of the images they would have posted there.  And I just checked. you are a Nikon shooter.  that makes your post a stupid Nikon troll instead of a contribution to the photography forum. have I been more clear or are you still not sure?

Jan 19 13 05:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:
OK  I'll be more blunt.  With the number of posts you have, you should know the rules by now.  Since you suggested it go in critique it means you know the rules.  so you have both experience of knowledge of how things work.  there fore...you can't claim mistake.   Knowing the rules means you know you can't critique here.  So suggesting they post somewhere means you know the rules and wanna get around them because...you wanna critique.    You are essentially saying "I dare you to post it there". that's fkn insulting.  Had the OP wanted critique of the images they would have posted there.  And I just checked. you are a Nikon shooter.  that makes your post a stupid Nikon troll instead of a contribution to the photography forum. have I been more clear or are you still not sure?

Dude! How's Law School going!? lol

Here...http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/moosehead-lager-62252.jpg

It's okay...so he's a Nikon shooter who hasn't realized that Nikon is just a Sony sensor in Nikon clothing! LOL! wink Bwahahahehehehahaha! Love those Nikon Lenses though!

Jan 19 13 06:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ivan Galaviz - Photo
Posts: 891
Juárez, Chihuahua, Mexico


It's your money, if you want a Sony, go ahead!
Jan 19 13 06:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


SONY! Best "bang for the buck" out there! wink And super reliable from my experience. Cold or Hot, wet or dusty.
Jan 19 13 06:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 10,533
Gatineau, Quebec, Canada


ArtisticGlamour wrote:
Dude! How's Law School going!? lol

Here...http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/moosehead-lager-62252.jpg

It's okay...so he's a Nikon shooter who hasn't realized that Nikon is just a Sony sensor in Nikon clothing! LOL! wink Bwahahahehehehahaha!

law school was last school year. This past term I passed the bar. As soon as I get a job I become a weekend shooter and no longer a professional.   and speaking of bars...that beer looks perfect for tonight

Jan 19 13 06:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Moosehead...the good stuff. wink From an Alaskan (at heart!) to a Canadian...Congrats!
Jan 19 13 06:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 12,742
Atlanta, Georgia, US


ArtisticGlamour wrote:
Dude! How's Law School going!? lol
It's okay...so he's a Nikon shooter who hasn't realized that Nikon is just a Sony sensor in Nikon clothing! LOL! wink Bwahahahehehehahaha! Love those Nikon Lenses though!

Let's not forget the A900 and how piss poor it's low light was compare to the same dressed up Nikon as you put it.  Sony may make a good sensor but it's way more involved to make a good camera and system.

I am happy Sony is moving in the right direction, but I fear they don't have much skin in the game.  Unlike Minolta who only made cameras, and made them well, this is just a tiny blip for Sony.  I worry that if they have any hardships in the market they will just drop it and the users.

I like the NEX systems, but I can't place my primary money maker in their hands just yet.  Too bad really, but time will tell.

Jan 19 13 07:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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ArtisticGlamour
Posts: 3,846
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Not familiar with the a900's sensor...what Nikon did it share with? (model? year?).

Admittedly, my a350 was the worst camera on the market for shadow/low light noise...So, I totally agree that Sony had some issues with the older cameras and noise at anything over ISO 400.

But my move to the a55 solved that issue (pretty much as good as the D7000, I understand from tests and reviews I've read/compared). And I'm very happy with the a77. I understand the a99 is even better.

I think Sony got enough shit about (raw) NOISE at the beginning, that they actually reacted well in the last few releases. Their firmware is now pretty Excellent. I think they are moving in the right direction, and I share your concerns about Camera support. For example...WTF is the 36mpix sensor!? F#@king Sony marketing!

Good dependable electronic product though, and great bang for the buck. My Sony has banged away in cold weather when all the others were having battery or LCD issues and running for the warm Van! And now they have good glass too! Hard to beat...all around.
Jan 19 13 07:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Images by MR
Posts: 7,611
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

OK  I'll be more blunt.  With the number of posts you have, you should know the rules by now.  Since you suggested it go in critique it means you know the rules.  so you have both experience of knowledge of how things work.  there fore...you can't claim mistake.   Knowing the rules means you know you can't critique here.  So suggesting they post somewhere means you know the rules and wanna get around them because...you wanna critique.    You are essentially saying "I dare you to post it there". that's fkn insulting.  Had the OP wanted critique of the images they would have posted there.  And I just checked. you are a Nikon shooter.  that makes your post a stupid Nikon troll instead of a contribution to the photography forum. have I been more clear or are you still not sure?

Yup I'm busted....

Jan 19 13 07:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Images by MR
Posts: 7,611
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


ArtisticGlamour wrote:

Dude! How's Law School going!? lol


It's okay...so he's a Nikon shooter who hasn't realized that Nikon is just a Sony sensor in Nikon clothing! LOL! wink Bwahahahehehehahaha! Love those Nikon Lenses though!

Thanks for the info.   Dumping my nikon gear & heading to the sony store in the morning....

Jan 19 13 07:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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