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Fifi
Posts: 58134
Gainesville, Florida, US
udor wrote:
You know... admittedly... she does have a gorgeous face... and full bouncy, captivating breasts when she is walking...
... but as soon as the camera reaches her hips... the appeal totally disappears... and there is nothing sexy or curvy for me on her below her ribcage... it's straight and not "curvy"... Ignore Gabby... he's got a titty fetish that is obviously rendering him incapable of using reasoning.
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Shon D.- Homme wrote:
I was talking about actual couture houses in Paris. I didn't even know NYC had couturiers. Oh... sorry!
I thought you were talking about New York's Couture Fashion Week
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K I C K H A M
Posts: 14689
Los Angeles, California, US
DougBPhoto wrote:
I'm sure you're not alone in that thought, even if the context for that thought may vary  Bahahaha. I actually laughed aloud.
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Fifi wrote:
Ignore Gabby... he's got a titty fetish that is obviously rendering him incapable of using reasoning. Okay!
Hey Fifi! Happy New Years my dear! 
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Yves Duchamp- Homme
Posts: 3212
Virginia Beach, Virginia, US
udor wrote:
Oh... sorry!
I thought you were talking about New York's Couture Fashion Week Ahh, I see. What I was basically getting at was that I don't see girls like her at Fashion Week, nor do I see them in ad campaigns. Kate Upton was not at Valentino. She was not at Chanel. She was not at Dior, etc etc etc. And to my knowledge, she doesn't actually do any work for actual designers. She does a lot of editorials and commercials, but her (relative) success is not indicative of any kind of shift in the industry.
When girls like Kate Upton start taking lots of jobs that were previously held by girls like Snejana Onopka, THEN I'll reconsider, but for now... Eh.
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Jordan2012
Posts: 95
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
sospix wrote:
A lot of my clients want curves, so you're in . . . how soon can ya be here . . .  I shoot quite a bit of biker chic, motorhead, surf, beach, island, urban, all most all of those genres prefer curves to "skinny" . . . of course most high fashion, catalog, and high end casual still look for a "model build" style model, mostly so their clothes hang a certain way . . . then there's VS, skinny, AND curvy . . . The OP's curves are welcome in front of my lens anytime . . .
SOS Very cool compliments by so many of you. I'm flattered. Will look you up when I come to Florida.
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
udor wrote:
Oh... sorry!
I thought you were talking about New York's Couture Fashion Week Oh... and FYI, NYC has the only Paris' accepted American couturier, Ralph Rucci.
He was the first American couturier in 60 years, who was invited to show in Paris under his own label by the French Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture.
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Yves Duchamp- Homme
Posts: 3212
Virginia Beach, Virginia, US
udor wrote:
Oh... and FYI, NYC has the only Paris' accepted American couturier, Ralph Rucci.
He was the first American couturier in 60 years, who was invited to show in Paris under his own label by the French Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture. LOVE!
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Bare Essential Photos
Posts: 3605
Upland, California, US
To Udor -- udor wrote:
You know... admittedly... she does have a gorgeous face... and full bouncy, captivating breasts when she is walking...
... but as soon as the camera reaches her hips... the appeal totally disappears... and there is nothing sexy or curvy for me on her below her ribcage... it's straight and not "curvy"... I begged to differ, Udor. Kate Upton is the complete package when it comes to curves. Let's agree to disagree.
Take care : )
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Mary Geraldine
Posts: 1697
Valdese, North Carolina, US
Curvy, curvy, curvy.
Waist/hip ratio.
Hourglass figure.
Please and thank you.
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Christopher Carter
Posts: 7777
Indianapolis, Indiana, US
Bare Essential Photos wrote:
To Anna Adrielle --
No, as in Kate Upton's curves.
Be respectful with others' definition as you would want them to be respectful of yours.
Thank you. You want me to account for BILLIONS of interpretations, rather than the correct one?
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Amusing all this talk about Kate Upton.
Good for her though, I'm sure she makes many dudes in sport bars salivate to order more chicken wings.
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
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Olof Wessels
Posts: 669
Heemskerk, Noord-Holland, Netherlands
I like most size and shapes but somehow in my photography plussize doesn't work for me, don't know why that is but it is.
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
A fine example of slim curvy which I find appealing. ![https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QpknA6XUL._SL500_AA300_.jpg]() Jennifer Connelly seems to bounce between both body types depending on her outfit and slight weight change. I think she's more straight than curvy perhaps but very beautiful. ![https://www.rock1061.com/image/wfxh/UserFiles/Image/jennifer-connelly.jpg]() True example of how a non-hourglass figure rocks ![https://www.sports-wired.com/women/images/Gabrielle_Reece/985.jpg]()
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B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25319
Bath, England, United Kingdom
How do you define "slim" and how do you define "curvy". What upsets me the most is that Western society has become so overweight/obese in general that many people are now "shocked" when they can see a model's ribs and immediately jump to the nonsensical conclusion that she must be anorexic!  Just my $0.02 Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com
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SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38224
Detroit, Michigan, US
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BeatnikDiva
Posts: 14859
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
SPRINGHEEL wrote:
I dig chicks I'm a chick.
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SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38224
Detroit, Michigan, US
DivaEroticus wrote:
I'm a chick. ![https://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/SPRINGHEEL69/tumblr_lovbo6XbXe1qi66kho1_500.gif]()
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BeatnikDiva
Posts: 14859
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
SPRINGHEEL wrote:
![https://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l249/SPRINGHEEL69/tumblr_lovbo6XbXe1qi66kho1_500.gif]() How YOU doin'?
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SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38224
Detroit, Michigan, US
DivaEroticus wrote:
How YOU doin'? Hopefully I'll be doin' you sooner or later
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Caperucita Roja
Posts: 11545
London, England, United Kingdom
Cole Morrison wrote:
I see an abundance of both of those figure types shot beautifully. Why pick? Women are lovely creatures. Yes!!
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BeatnikDiva
Posts: 14859
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
SPRINGHEEL wrote:
Hopefully I'll be doin' you sooner or later :slow nod:
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
Springheel and Diva, you both amuse me to death:) 
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Jordan2012
Posts: 95
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
The examples being shown of curvy run the guantlet. It's very interesting visualizing the difference in the way people see curvy. I think today's judgements look for a combination of both.
Blake Lively, Halle Berry Jennifer Love-Hewitt?
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BeatnikDiva
Posts: 14859
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
Jules NYC wrote:
Springheel and Diva, you both amuse me to death:)
If this weren't in OT I would SO say something on the edge of crass!
/inadvertent thread jack.
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Trinity Peterson
Posts: 79
Tampa, Florida, US
Mary Geraldine wrote:
Curvy, curvy, curvy.
Waist/hip ratio.
Hourglass figure.
Please and thank you. Which am I... Slim or Curvy?
![https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121128/22/50b6fa56c1374_m.jpg]()
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SPRINGHEEL
Posts: 38224
Detroit, Michigan, US
DivaEroticus wrote:
If this weren't in OT I would SO say something on the edge of crass!
/inadvertent thread jack. I'll edge yer crass
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
DivaEroticus wrote:
If this weren't in OT I would SO say something on the edge of crass!
/inadvertent thread jack. Oh just say it
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BeatnikDiva
Posts: 14859
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
SPRINGHEEL wrote:
I'll edge yer crass ![https://gifsforum.com/images/gif/creepy%20smile/grand/creepy-smile-eccbc87e4b5ce2fe28308fd9f2a7baf3-343.gif]()
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Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18763
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
udor wrote:
Oh... sorry!
I thought you were talking about New York's Couture Fashion Week did you know that couture in fashion is actually a very closely defined term, and that only a handful of designers in the world can call themselves couturiers?
ofcourse, a lot of people (including basically anyone in the US) uses couture as a synonym for "(fancy) fashion", but it's *technically* not couture until you follow a very strict set of rules and have earned the right to call yourself a couturier by the Chambre Syndicale de la haute couture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haute_couture
so no, technically, NY doesn't have a couture fashion week
(oh you might argue that the article talks about haute couture and you're talking about couture, but they're the same thing. couture just leaves out the haute)
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Bare Essential Photos wrote:
I begged to differ, Udor. Kate Upton is the complete package when it comes to curves. Let's agree to disagree.
Take care : ) Well... no problem... however this:
Mary Geraldine wrote:
Curvy, curvy, curvy.
Waist/hip ratio.
Hourglass figure.
Please and thank you. Is pretty much an important definition of curviness... and Kate Upton's hip to waist ratio is... almost Zero... so... she does have boobs... which are curvy... but her body is not what could be considered "curvy"...
But as I said... Kate Upton's face/boob combination is gorgeous...
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Anna Adrielle wrote:
did you know that couture in fashion is actually a very closely defined term, and that only a handful of designers in the world can call themselves couturiers? If you look at my post to Shon regarding Ralph Rucci, further above... you will see that I am very familiar with the difference between haute couture and couture... and with who is giving the definition.
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Jordan2012
Posts: 95
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
udor wrote:
Bare Essential Photos wrote:
I begged to differ, Udor. Kate Upton is the complete package when it comes to curves. Let's agree to disagree.
Take care : ) Well... no problem... however this:
Is pretty much an important definition of curviness... and Kate Upton's hip to waist ratio is... almost Zero... so... she does have boobs... which are curvy... but her body is not what could be considered "curvy"...
But as I said... Kate Upton's face/boob combination is gorgeous... Hips curves are important to perfect the look. I think the fact you spelled it out is what seperates. Kate Upton really has boyish hips, she doesn't exemplify the hourglass figure associated with curves.
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Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18763
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
udor wrote:
If you look at my post to Shon regarding Ralph Rucci, further above... you will see that I am very familiar with the difference between haute couture and couture... and with who is giving the definition. one couturier don't make a fashionweek though
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Jules NYC
Posts: 21617
New York, New York, US
I think most personal female opinions will be a direct reflection of their own body-type.
People tend to gravitate to and defend what they are and criticize what they are not.
You can reference all the ass, boob and weight threads within MM.
... and for the highly critical men, show us your penis and full body so I can critique you too.
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Anna Adrielle
Posts: 18763
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
Jordan2012 wrote:
Hips curves are important to perfect the look. I think the fact you spelled it out is what seperates. Kate Upton really has boyish hips, she doesn't exemplify the hourglass figure associated with curves. and personally, I also think "curvy" means you have obvious curves at different angles. someone who goes in and out a lot, but when you look at her from the side is straight up and down, I'm also less inclined to call curvy.
obviously, every human body has curves, but I like to keep the word 'curvy' for those who have very obvious ones
oh, and just thought of another examples of curves-at-any-size
![https://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/upload/229472543484453158_Ad2PSNc9_c.jpg]()
and
![https://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/upload/24066179229189791_qNqHAvEa_c.jpg]()
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Jordan2012 wrote:
Hips curves are important to perfect the look. I think the fact you spelled it out is what seperates. Kate Upton really has boyish hips, she doesn't exemplify the hourglass figure associated with curves. Correct!
If people still don't understand that curvy means also hourglass figure, and don't know the definition of hourglass figure... they should check out this MM Profile...
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BeatnikDiva
Posts: 14859
Fayetteville, Arkansas, US
Anna Adrielle wrote:
and personally, I also think "curvy" means you have obvious curves at different angles. someone who goes in and out a lot, but when you look at her from the side is straight up and down, I'm also less inclined to call curvy.
obviously, every human body has curves, but I like to keep the word 'curvy' for those who have very obvious ones
oh, and just thought of another examples of curves-at-any-size
![https://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/upload/229472543484453158_Ad2PSNc9_c.jpg]() Jesus H. Christ, that's amazing.
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I shoot quite a bit of biker chic, motorhead, surf, beach, island, urban, all most all of those genres prefer curves to "skinny" . . . of course most high fashion, catalog, and high end casual still look for a "model build" style model, mostly so their clothes hang a certain way . . . then there's VS, skinny, AND curvy . . . 
