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Yan Tan Tethera
Posts: 4,168
Biggleswade, England, United Kingdom


twoharts wrote:
i believe this is the book that started the 10K hours thing:
http://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Su … s=outliers

You're right - that's the book. It's an interesting read but nothing more than that. Yehudi Menuhin and many others show that to be a crock of shit. And in the case of the Beatles, yes they might have clocked up those hours in performing but their genius in songwriting came from somewhere else .

Jan 27 13 01:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photo Bill
Posts: 275
Baltimore, Maryland, US


Images by MR wrote:

Michael Broughton wrote:
for starters, don't treat your port like you're sharing snapshots with your facebook friends.

Not when the person saying it has a goose as a avatar smile

That is just funny -- BTW, Nice Goose!

Jan 27 13 01:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Photo Bill
Posts: 275
Baltimore, Maryland, US


HughJr510Photo wrote:
Whaty is the best way(s) to get regular photographic work?

I am in New Jersey


Please advise thank you

Hugh Gilmartin

Hugh -- look at your portfolio.  I am sure the second picture (guy in the blue shirt) is a great guy but he doesn't quite scream to models - Hey, pay me to help you build your portfolio!     Actually I had to look twice, I thought that was my cousin!

Jan 27 13 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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JLC Images
Posts: 11,559
Phillipsburg, New Jersey, US


Photo Bill wrote:

Hugh -- look at your portfolio.  I am sure the second picture (guy in the blue shirt) is a great guy but he doesn't quite scream to models - Hey, pay me to help you build your portfolio!

How are you able to determine someones talent by how they look?  I would use someone portfolio, but no one should be doing that here since this is not the critique section.

Jan 27 13 02:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JimBobLc
Posts: 199
Martinsburg, West Virginia, US


I saw an add on Craigslist, from a Realtor, looking for people to take pictures of houses for sale.
Jan 27 13 02:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
John Horwitz
Posts: 2,594
Raleigh, North Carolina, US


newborn & toddlers
Jan 27 13 02:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Rose Valentina
Posts: 59
London, England, United Kingdom


Michael Pandolfo wrote:

So, I have 9,900 hours of sex to go before I'm any good?

Ha ha.. maybe!

Jan 27 13 10:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Rose Valentina
Posts: 59
London, England, United Kingdom


twoharts wrote:
i'm not sure about that 10K hours thing. i could hit golf balls for 10,000 hours and just be sore and never get any better. it only works if you can get better over time.

and i've seen photographers who were great from day one. maybe they didn't have everything under control technically but either you have it or you don't.

i think if you have it and then you put in the 10,000 hours that makes sense. but if you don't have it then it may not matter how much time you put in. if you don't have it you may get better but you won't be great.


Depends on your attitude, if you believe in yourself and put your mind to something, you can achieve anything. Anyway, some people work their way up the ladder through hard work, skill and determination while others are just arse lickers..

Jan 27 13 10:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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ontherocks
Posts: 22,289
Salem, Oregon, US


i would edit that as follows:

the unique limitations you were born with notwithstanding, you may be able to achieve great things through hard work and a positive attitude.

some doors are closed from birth and will always be closed. no 5'-3" chick is going to be a VS model unless the world turns upside down. however a guy with metal legs did get to run in the olympics. a guy with a golf cart did get to compete in pro tournaments.

i would tell my kids try hard but be realistic about your chances and maybe have a plan B or plan C, especially if they aren't hot or at least charismatic.

Paola B wrote:
if you believe in yourself and put your mind to something, you can achieve anything.

Jan 27 13 10:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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ontherocks
Posts: 22,289
Salem, Oregon, US


do the drug dealers get a songwriting credit? lol

Yan Tan Tethera wrote:
but their genius in songwriting came from somewhere else .

Jan 27 13 10:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cody Augustine
Posts: 60
Vancouver, Washington, US


After reviewing some of my work I asked a professional what would be the fastest way I could make money with photography, he told me to sell my camera.
Jan 28 13 05:50 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Rose Valentina
Posts: 59
London, England, United Kingdom


Photo Bill wrote:

That is just funny -- BTW, Nice Goose!

The goose is cute, good posture! smile

Jan 28 13 08:37 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Francisco Castro
Posts: 1,675
Cincinnati, Ohio, US


HughJr510Photo wrote:
Whaty is the best way(s) to get regular photographic work?

I am in New Jersey


Please advise thank you

Hugh Gilmartin

Put together a kick ass port, and foster the relationships you make that got you the photos in that kick ass port. People are not going to give you money just because you tell them, "I am good and worth the $500 to take your pictures."; they'll need proof.

Also, do a search of photographers in your area using the Browse button. How do the ports of the other shooters compare with your own? Because when looking for someone to pay to shoot them, models will seek out the best photog for the right price.

I am familiar with Fairfield, NJ (I used to go to Rutgers U. in New Brunswick) and it's close proximity to NY. You'll also have NY photogs to compete with.

Have a good product and people will come. That's the bottom line.

Jan 28 13 09:07 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Carl Roberts
Posts: 32,944
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US


Network, Network, Network
Jan 30 13 09:12 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
ShotbyRon
Posts: 767
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US


You first need to build a portfolio. I looked at your page, and thought I was on Facebook for a second. To do that you need to search your local area and find models looking for TF work. Or you could hire and pay an experienced model or two. IMO if they are available to you, use them!

Print out business cards and hand them out to random people. Vista print has a sample pack you can get for free. 

Judging off your MM port, you're going to have to work for free for awhile until you craft your skill. Shoot anybody and anything. Even if they aren't a model! That will help spread your name, and it's practice.
Jan 30 13 10:12 am  Link  Quote 
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