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Model
rachel nicole
Posts: 20
Dubuque, Iowa, US


Caroline Madison wrote:
'I'm not sure a photographer with a picture of a camera as his own avatar shoud be lecturing models on their avatars.'

+1




If you want to photograph a model, not sure only one single picture is relevant. You need to browse her portfolio just like I would look at a photographer's whole work. It makes sense.

Your B&W image is stellar!!! So good.

Jan 31 13 11:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
--Ishtar--
Posts: 1,232
Heerlen, Limburg, Netherlands


Photos 4 The Memories  wrote:

Now all we need is a model doing a post in the photography forum on how they will not do a shoot with anyone photographer with a camera for a aviator.
I double dare any model too do that.

Actually, if I saw the OP with his camera for an aviator, I'd be laughing my head off. Sorry, couldn't resist big_smile

Apr 02 13 12:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Danielle Reid
Posts: 2,977
Little Rock, Arkansas, US


Apr 02 13 12:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
LeighN
Posts: 224
Frederick, Maryland, US


and then god gave photographers photoshop.....

and then go gave humans spray on tan....

but apparently he forgot to give MM the option to search for tan skin...it must be hard just trolling the browse category based on ONE picture for a model...

That's like ripping a page out of a book and then expecting you'll read it and you'll get the whole story

everything everyone else has posted above me +1
Apr 02 13 01:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Rachel-Elise
Posts: 1,650
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US


EMILY  C wrote:
As an aside, a model could have a portfolio full of in-color shots, and still have none of those accurately represent her "true" skin color due to lighting, make-up, post work, etc.

Just one look at my portfolio proves this. I have at least three "different" hair colors in my port--all courtesy of different types of lighting! wink

Apr 02 13 02:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 9,445
Santa Ana, California, US


Kent Art Photography wrote:
I'm not sure a photographer with a picture of a camera as his own avatar shoud be lecturing models on their avatars.

An avatar is a shop window, it has to grab the viewer's attention and encourage the viewer to click through to the portfolio.  An avatar which shows skin colour might not be an attention grabber.

The OP wasn't asking for an UNSOLICITED CRITIQUE of his profile/avatar.

Apr 02 13 02:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
JessieLeigh
Posts: 1,974
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


--Ishtar-- wrote:
Actually, if I saw the OP with his camera for an aviator, I'd be laughing my head off. Sorry, couldn't resist big_smile

You revived a dead thread to post this?

Apr 02 13 02:59 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
photo212grapher
Posts: 1,528
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


LeighN wrote:
--snip--
but apparently he forgot to give MM the option to search for tan skin...it must be hard just trolling the browse category based on ONE picture for a model...
--snip--

MM Browse:

Model...

Skin color:
Any
Brown
Olive
Other
Tanned 

Apr 02 13 05:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
JOEL McDONALD
Posts: 608
Portland, Oregon, US


Just a quick message to Photographers...

... who should use an excellent model shot as their profile's main image (avatar) because it allows the MODEL to see the caliber of the photographer without viewing the whole portfolio. Thanks.

hint, hint ...

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/avatars/1/0/7/8/1/6/4/4ee3c9d14328a_t.jpg
Photographer
Jim McSmith
Posts: 399
Aldershot, England, United Kingdom
Apr 02 13 05:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
LeighN
Posts: 224
Frederick, Maryland, US


212...I can't argue with that lol I didn't even know that was an option...then again I never search for llamas.

Regardless just looking at the avi is silly...and then coming here and telling llamas what avi is convenient for him is insulting when his avi isn't even a picture that would sell his photography in the least bit..
Apr 02 13 07:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Danielle Hieronimi
Posts: 238
Chicago, Illinois, US


Kent Art Photography wrote:
I'm not sure a photographer with a picture of a camera as his own avatar shoud be lecturing models on their avatars.

An avatar is a shop window, it has to grab the viewer's attention and encourage the viewer to click through to the portfolio.  An avatar which shows skin colour might not be an attention grabber.

+1

Apr 02 13 07:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chicchowmein
Posts: 14,317
Palm Beach, Florida, US


Jojo West wrote:

Oh there's also a new one that says models should take make-up classes so he doesn't have to hire an MUA.

I want to start one that says models should also learn to cook and clean so they can clean up before we shoot and have dinner done for when we finish.

Of course they must also do the dishes.

I do hate doing the dishes.

Apr 02 13 07:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Revenge Photography
Posts: 1,498
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


Jim McSmith wrote:
Many photographers don't shoot black and white. When searching profiles I look for tanned models but if the avatar is in b/w I then need to view the whole portfolio which wastes time and slows down the search process.

Models tend to be inconsiderate like that. I agree they shouldn't use the best shot they have as their avi. They should choose the one that makes your model selection easier.

Apr 02 13 07:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AJScalzitti
Posts: 11,532
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Lord people corrected the OP when this necro thread was stated let it die.  Hell even the Walking Dead has had its season finally...
Apr 02 13 07:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Revenge Photography
Posts: 1,498
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


LeighN wrote:
212...I can't argue with that lol I didn't even know that was an option...then again I never search for models.

Regardless just looking at the avi is silly...and then coming here and telling models what avi is convenient for him is insulting when his avi isn't even a picture that would sell his photography in the least bit..

That's a bit harsh don't you think?

Surely there are a few models on here looking for updated photo's of their camera.

Apr 02 13 07:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
photo212grapher
Posts: 1,528
Saint Louis, Missouri, US


LeighN wrote:
212...I can't argue with that lol I didn't even know that was an option...then again I never search for models.

Regardless just looking at the avi is silly...and then coming here and telling models what avi is convenient for him is insulting when his avi isn't even a picture that would sell his photography in the least bit..

Lots of "hidden" features that not everyone has found. I wonder how many models actually make seasonal adjustments to the "tanned" setting? I know a few who write it into their profile. Same goes for "hair color" - those that change often need to alert people their current color.

Totally agree with you on selection by an avatar is silly. The total portfolio including the profile words are important in selecting someone to work with here.

Apr 03 13 07:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
intense_puppy
Posts: 862
Brighton, England, United Kingdom


Jim McSmith wrote:
Just a quick message to models to say they should use a colour shot on their profile main image because it allows the photographer to see the skin colour without viewing the whole portfolio. Thanks.

That BIG lens in your avatar is very impressive.  wink

Apr 03 13 08:00 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Adam J Caldwell
Posts: 289
Manchester, England, United Kingdom


This thread made me LOL

So basically the OP likes fake boobs and tanned women....says alot about him.


But hey, if thats your cup of tea, fair enough...but to preach...well thats another thing.


I vote that all Models should now have a B&W avatar, just to piss the OP off.
Apr 03 13 09:29 am  Link  Quote 
Model
LeighN
Posts: 224
Frederick, Maryland, US


Adam J Caldwell wrote:
This thread made me LOL

So basically the OP likes fake boobs and tanned women....says alot about him.


But hey, if thats your cup of tea, fair enough...but to preach...well thats another thing.


I vote that all Models should now have a B&W avatar, just to piss the OP off.

lol im with you on this idea...and one step ahead hahah

Apr 03 13 09:34 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jim McSmith
Posts: 626
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom


Thanks for reviving this thread. I now see a lot more models using a colour avatar instead of monochrome and this is aiding me no end in my search for tanned models. Thanks to those who made the effort to change.
Apr 03 13 01:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
LeighN
Posts: 224
Frederick, Maryland, US


Jim McSmith wrote:
Thanks for reviving this thread. I now see a lot more models using a colour avatar instead of monochrome and this is aiding me no end in my search for tanned models. Thanks to those who made the effort to change.

lol I'm sure it has lmao

My suggestion to you is find a better avi picture considering I only now work with photogs that have a good color photo of their work as their avi...I decided your method MUST be best...

Apr 03 13 04:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jim McSmith
Posts: 626
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom


LeighN wrote:

lol I'm sure it has lmao

My suggestion to you is find a better avi picture considering I only now work with photogs that have a good color photo of their work as their avi...I decided your method MUST be best...

Glad you've seen the light and using my method. However, when I'm paying then I set the terms, so you see, there really isn't a need for me to change my avatar.

Apr 03 13 04:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Olga Matviyenkoski
Posts: 2
WINSTON SALEM, North Carolina, US


Jim McSmith wrote:
Just a quick message to llamas to say they should use a colour shot on their profile main image because it allows the photographer to see the skin colour without viewing the whole portfolio. Thanks.

This is racist against pale people and Eastern Europeans

Apr 03 13 05:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
druidess
Posts: 24
Houston, Texas, US


Jim McSmith wrote:

Glad you've seen the light and using my method. However, when I'm paying then I set the terms, so you see, there really isn't a need for me to change my avatar.

LET THE MAN HAVE A CAMERA IN HIS AVI THEN...if he thinks thats the best move then so be it.

however, I personally would never choose to view more photos of someone with a weird avi like that.

Apr 03 13 05:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
druidess
Posts: 24
Houston, Texas, US


Olga Matviyenkoski wrote:
This is racist against pale people and Eastern Europeans

HAHAHHA love it. im pale, and totally okay with it.

Apr 03 13 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Olga Matviyenkoski
Posts: 2
WINSTON SALEM, North Carolina, US


Jim McSmith wrote:

Glad you've seen the light and using my method. However, when I'm paying then I set the terms, so you see, there really isn't a need for me to change my avatar.

Apparently we don't see the light because we aren't tan enough ...tread carefully about criticizing pale people -vampires are out there somewhere

Apr 03 13 05:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lora Weaver
Posts: 3,541
Alexandria, Virginia, US


I hope people think I'm as fun as the OP.
Apr 03 13 05:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jim McSmith
Posts: 626
Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom


Olga Matviyenkoski wrote:

Apparently we don't see the light because we aren't tan enough ...tread carefully about criticizing pale people -vampires are out there somewhere

What's the big deal? You can go and get a tan using sunbeds or a spray tan.

Apr 03 13 05:56 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Seneca Thompson
Posts: 55
Anaheim, California, US


I like my B&W avatar:P

But then again I'm pale so I don't care about my skin looking tan.
Apr 03 13 06:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
AJScalzitti
Posts: 11,532
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Its a wonder top agencies book any clients; they have been using B&W headshots on the boards for 20+ years...
Apr 03 13 06:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 9,445
Santa Ana, California, US


Yep, that's my new criteria for models - a good tan - Yep hit'n the big time.
Apr 03 13 06:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
LeighN
Posts: 224
Frederick, Maryland, US


AJScalzitti wrote:
Its a wonder top agencies book any clients; they have been using B&W headshots on the boards for 20+ years...

+1 I know and their photographers' avis probably have actual pictures of their work...it's the 8th world wonder

Apr 03 13 06:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Selina Katzen
Posts: 11,741
Huntington, West Virginia, US


Loool, I remember this thread! Still hilarious
Apr 03 13 09:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 2,714
London, England, United Kingdom


Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote:

It's all the messaging that slows it down for me. When is this site going to add a shopping cart to put the models in when you want to order one?

Mbay?  Where we can bid for models? Some also could have "Shoot me now"  buttons.

Apr 04 13 04:10 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Adrian Carmody
Posts: 199
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


Dear Models,

Please continue to use the image that best defines your style, and your personal taste when setting your avatar. It helps give us an instant feel of what images you are drawn to. Understand that we will also look at other shots in your portfolio before making a decision

Thanks
From every other Photographer
Apr 04 13 04:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 2,714
London, England, United Kingdom


Jojo West wrote:

Oh there's also a new one that says models should take make-up classes so he doesn't have to hire an MUA.

Is there going to one where all models must help the tog push the shutter?

Apr 04 13 04:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 2,714
London, England, United Kingdom


Dear models,  I insist you start using colour for your avatars this instant.

The colours,  black and/or white.

By order of The Management
Apr 04 13 04:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Paige Morgan
Posts: 4,058
New York, New York, US


Kent Art Photography wrote:
I'm not sure a photographer with a picture of a camera as his own avatar shoud be lecturing models on their avatars.

An avatar is a shop window, it has to grab the viewer's attention and encourage the viewer to click through to the portfolio.  An avatar which shows skin colour might not be an attention grabber.

/thread

Apr 04 13 04:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 7,757
Olney, Maryland, US


Adam J Caldwell wrote:
This thread made me LOL

So basically the OP likes fake boobs and tanned women....says alot about him.


But hey, if thats your cup of tea, fair enough...but to preach...well thats another thing.


I vote that all Models should now have a B&W avatar, just to piss the OP off.

fake boobs and tanned women.... and BIG lenses

Apr 04 13 04:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 6,047
New York, New York, US


Keep the threads coming Jim....great for laughs!
Apr 04 13 04:43 pm  Link  Quote 
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