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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Theres a lot of bad anatomy tutorials out there and i wanted to share my own methods. The most common way that is taught is this silly combination of "golden proportions" and using ovals to block out the legs and arms, as seen here:
http://realcolorwheel.com/humanproporti … redraw.gif

This is, (pardon my french) completely and utterly stupid. For one, no ones body fits exactly the golden proportions. We have all different shapes and sizes, and if we say a human is 6 heads long, that is ridiculous. The average adult human ranges from 5-7 heads long, has any number of different sized features, broad shoulders, smaller ribcage, lankier arms or shorter ones. Sure, we might share the same bones, but there is no "one size fits all" when it comes to proportions. And when you try to recreate that "magic formula" in perspective, the proportions get all wonky anyway. Add to that the fact that muscles are in fact NOT ovals, but convex tube shapes, and you might be better off just not learning anatomy at all.

I was lucky enough to study under an actual anatomist, and learned the proper way to build the human body from the bones up. I have modified her technique to suit my liking, and i welcome you to do the same. Of course i cannot fit an entire 12 week course into a picture, but here is a simplified summary of the first 7 or so weeks:
http://i50.tinypic.com/aaybq.jpg
Feb 03 13 07:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gabby57
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Coppell, Texas, US


Thanks!  Very interesting.
Feb 05 13 01:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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JJMiller
Posts: 593
Buffalo, New York, US


I've drawn a lot of different naked people and this seems very complex, it's good to know some general rules but it's better to just do it a lot. Basically looking at angles and relationships between different parts, as well as really understanding the negative space, aka "developing an eye," is IMO the way to go. Unless I'm doing horror stuff I don't need to draw skeletons and flayed bodies.
Feb 09 13 12:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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AKMac
Posts: 326
London, England, United Kingdom


I assumed this was meant to be a joke.
Feb 09 13 02:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ken Marcus Studios
Posts: 8,482
Los Angeles, California, US


And, this is meaningful . . . how ???
Feb 09 13 02:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Peano
Posts: 4,106
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
The most common way that is taught is this silly combination of "golden proportions"
and using ovals to block out the legs and arms ...

I got your gold ...

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8168/bodyg.jpg

Feb 09 13 06:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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Motordrive Photography
Posts: 2,947
Lodi, California, US


lol  haha  lol
Feb 09 13 06:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Light and Lens Studio
Posts: 1,405
Sisters, Oregon, US


"The wind blew,
And the Organic Fertilizer was airborne"

This cant be serious.
Feb 09 13 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


The people who think this is a joke, good luck drawing ovals for legs all your life. smile This is anatomy drawing 101, not high school art class. Bones are where its at.

I'm not saying you have to draw the entire bone structure but if you don't at least draw lines guiding where they're going to be placed, you lose a hell of a lot of definition. Knowing the structure of the femur, tibia and patella is absolutely essential if you ever want to draw realistic knees. Ribcage, shoulderblades, pelvic arch, collarbone, elbows, wrists... There are a million different places on your body where bones shine through. If you don't know, you're just uninformed, but if you think i'm being ridiculous then you're just plain stupid.
Feb 09 13 06:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Peano wrote:

I got your gold ...

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8168/bodyg.jpg

LMAO. here we observe an anatomical depiction of the homo habilus gangbangus. Note an abnormally large set of ribs, most likely because they get broken so often in cocaine fueled rages.

Feb 09 13 07:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


JJMiller wrote:
I've drawn a lot of different naked people and this seems very complex, it's good to know some general rules but it's better to just do it a lot. Basically looking at angles and relationships between different parts, as well as really understanding the negative space, aka "developing an eye," is IMO the way to go. Unless I'm doing horror stuff I don't need to draw skeletons and flayed bodies.

Yeah the point was as soon as you move a limb in space the apparent length of them gets distorted anyway so the golden proportions don't matter! There are some general 'rules', most hands hang down in between the ribcage and pelvis but its better to angle sight then to break it down into some 2d set of proportions.

Feb 09 13 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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AKMac
Posts: 326
London, England, United Kingdom


Ben Hinman wrote:
The people who think this is a joke, good luck drawing ovals for legs all your life. smile This is anatomy drawing 101, not high school art class. Bones are where its at.

I'm not saying you have to draw the entire bone structure but if you don't at least draw lines guiding where they're going to be placed, you lose a hell of a lot of definition. Knowing the structure of the femur, tibia and patella is absolutely essential if you ever want to draw realistic knees. Ribcage, shoulderblades, pelvic arch, collarbone, elbows, wrists... There are a million different places on your body where bones shine through. If you don't know, you're just uninformed, but if you think i'm being ridiculous then you're just plain stupid.

Truncated icosahedrons

Feb 10 13 01:05 am  Link  Quote 
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Peano
Posts: 4,106
Lynchburg, Virginia, US


Ben Hinman wrote:
If you don't know, you're just uninformed, but if you think i'm being ridiculous then you're just plain stupid.

A teacher is born ...

Feb 10 13 06:03 am  Link  Quote 
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Ben Hinman
Posts: 596
Westwood, California, US


Peano wrote:

A teacher is born ...

I have... alternative teaching methods. smile

Feb 10 13 06:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Dan OMell
Posts: 1,335
Ufa, Bashkortostan, Russia


could be actually useful for compositing
http://vimeo.com/59091880#
look at 4m:30s - 4m:42s
some people prefer drawing and not using 3D software

matte painting thingy also, etc.
Feb 12 13 07:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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