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Services No Longer Require... More TFP grief
What was I expecting? Maybe, "Thanks! Tomorrow's not good - but can you do next weekend" Overall, things are nice and busy - we were booked ever day last week and I'm fine being free today - will give me a chance to get a designer friend over to see if we can create an intelligent 'back drops / set building' system for future use... ...but I keep spinning it around the other way: Photographer wants to shoot 3 girls in a 'phantasy' environment and a model tells him that she will make that happen... When he gets the call 3 weeks laters say "Ladies and outfits are ready to go" - would blowing them off be the right choice?... Just a thought Feb 09 13 11:28 pm Link PR Zone wrote: Well at first glance it does make her sound like a diva but you didn't say anything regarding what communication you had in between. Did you really leave it 3 weeks and then tell here - hey I'm ready to shoot tomorrow! If it was something like that then maybe she has a point? Communication is always important even if it's just to reassure someone you haven't forgotten about them. Feb 10 13 12:51 am Link PR Zone wrote: But you didn't answer the question - did you communicate during those 3 weeks? If not - you're the one most at fault. Even if you did keep in touch - did you even discuss whether she'd be available at very short notice? Most models I know probably couldn't do a next day shoot that easily. Feb 10 13 12:57 am Link You do know the free thing doesn't pay well.... If you are giving it for free what is it worth? nothing,, no time, no effort and no commitment. Might happen if you get the right hair/makeup?? Model calls you with the idea,call the hair/makeup/ ask if they do it what cost,, add your price call model back tell her can be done for this amount. yes/no, DONE.... Feb 10 13 01:15 am Link MoRina wrote: +1 Feb 10 13 01:55 am Link If I hadn't heard from a model for three weeks after making overtures and she said "Shoot Tomorrow?" - I might - if I wasn't doing anything else. But to be honest if I don't hear back from models within 7 days after first contact, I give up on them (assuming they've been online and read the message). Maybe she's the same? Can't blame her really. I chase models up once a week or so if the shoot is scheduled for within the next month and every month or so if it's longer, with confirmatory emails one week and then one day before the shoot. Nothing dramatic, just "Hi, how's it going? Still OK for XXX date?" Feb 10 13 04:27 am Link MainePaintah wrote: This! You both blew it! Feb 10 13 02:24 pm Link I agree with the majority of the replies. The fault is on the OP, based on what was written. 1. Did the model even know that the OP was doing all the preparation behind the scenes? 2. Did the OP really expect people to just do something "tomorrow" at the drop of the hat? Feb 10 13 10:32 pm Link Don't let someone else be in charge of your creative success. Do the shoot anyway with a different model. I would. Feb 10 13 10:43 pm Link That highly annoys me when people do what you do, as a model. I and many models like me actually go shop for wardrobe. If you do an initial contact then drop for 3 weeks, we assume you bailed. Then to contact saying you're suddenly ready will rush us into a frenzy of stress if we do decide to accept it. Many models need time and planning. If you want to keep a shoot, constantly update the model at least every few days. Feb 10 13 10:43 pm Link Samantha Emme wrote: +1 Feb 11 13 09:35 am Link Three weeks could easily be long enough for a model to find another photographer or lose interest in the project -- especially if there was not good communication during that time. Maybe the bit about being unprofessional was excessive, but it should not be a surprise when people lose interest. Happens to all of us, all the time. Feb 11 13 09:42 am Link PR Zone wrote: Some models have abysmally short attention spans. Feb 11 13 09:58 am Link Definitely your communication skills at fault, based on the fact you skipped all the question posed on page one. Give the model a timeframe and update her regularly. Darren www.facebook.com/darrenbradephotograpy Feb 11 13 10:53 am Link To me it seems like your were more invested in the project than she was. She sparked your interest. Now you have a spectacular MUA...so get 3 models to recreate that look. Create weekend sessions and if you can get another MUA (if the other may not be available) all the better. Develop the concept till its perfect. You answered a casting that sparked your interest, now throw it back out in the universe and see what happens. Best o' luck Cyn Feb 11 13 02:21 pm Link terrysphotocountry wrote: or her barley. Feb 11 13 03:43 pm Link Final Word Someone needs several hundred pounds worth of studio, photography, make up and editing - you speak, twice, and say that you'll 'put it together for them', but it takes 21 days... I think it's nice that a stranger makes that effort for you 'at all' In the meantime, we've shot with a number of other models - some of which have also been published - and the 'positive tags' continue to roll in My advice? If you need a lot of stuff done and someone says they'll do it - for free - then it might be worth ringing to check on progress (just) before your toys go out of the pram Feb 15 13 10:58 pm Link |
