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Christopher Carter
Posts: 7777
Indianapolis, Indiana, US
There's nothing I find more amusing than someone with "Southern charm" rubbing it in your face to remind you that YOU'RE the asshole and they were raised "better than you." I guess I'm just a Yankee asshole for not pointing out how I was raised to point out what a dick you people are
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M Pandolfo Photography
Posts: 12117
Tampa, Florida, US
Mnemosyne Photography wrote: There's nothing I find more amusing than someone with "Southern charm" rubbing it in your face to remind you that YOU'RE the asshole and they were raised "better than you." I'd replace "amusing" with "hypocritical." I guess it's not considered rude to be sanctimonious if you've had a "Southern upbringing."
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Krisna Kaye
Posts: 18
Chino Hills, California, US
What's wrong with laying out commands?? It's not like they're "you will have someone serve me" or stuff along those lines. They're simple commands to keep from lowering my standards.. No I will not lose weight because Im happy with my weight and my friends and family.. People who matter.. Even agree that I'm a better weight now than I was when I was 100 pounds. I don't want to be the one that girls look up to and are like "she's so skinny and I wanna be like er so now I have to starve myself". As a model I think you are immediately objected to being a role model. As for bringing an escort.. That is a safety issue and I will not by any means compromise my safety. And the test is about nude and implied work.. I'm going to be strict about it because I DON'T want my hooha out there for everyone to see. I didn't sign up for playboy. And this forum was not intended to ask for help or anything it was a general question about why are people rude because it is not necessary. Ad when I said my mama taught me better I wasn't running it in very ones face that I'm better than them. Just stating my mama taught me differently and that's why I have respect for people and for myself. Thank you
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Krisna Kaye
Posts: 18
Chino Hills, California, US
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Krisna Kaye
Posts: 18
Chino Hills, California, US
Mnemosyne Photography wrote: There's nothing I find more amusing than someone with "Southern charm" rubbing it in your face to remind you that YOU'RE the asshole and they were raised "better than you." I guess I'm just a Yankee asshole for not pointing out how I was raised to point out what a dick you people are I never once said I was better than anyone. Read things and comprehend them before jumping to a conclusion. Thank you
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Stormee
Posts: 2463
San Antonio, Texas, US
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Ash Photographic
Posts: 378
Cirencester, England, United Kingdom
Krisna Fretwell wrote: What's wrong with laying out commands?? It's not like they're "you will have someone serve me" or stuff along those lines. They're simple commands to keep from lowering my standards.. No I will not lose weight because Im happy with my weight and my friends and family.. People who matter.. Even agree that I'm a better weight now than I was when I was 100 pounds. I don't want to be the one that girls look up to and are like "she's so skinny and I wanna be like er so now I have to starve myself". As a model I think you are immediately objected to being a role model. As for bringing an llama herder.. That is a safety issue and I will not by any means compromise my safety. And the test is about nude and implied work.. I'm going to be strict about it because I DON'T want my hooha out there for everyone to see. I didn't sign up for playboy. And this forum was not intended to ask for help or anything it was a general question about why are people rude because it is not necessary. Ad when I said my mama taught me better I wasn't running it in very ones face that I'm better than them. Just stating my mama taught me differently and that's why I have respect for people and for myself. Thank you Hmmmm.... The only person that can keep you from lowering your 'standards' (however ridiculous they may be) is you. So why put it on us? llama herders.... 'safety'... yeah, right. And what you do with your 'hooha' is your own business - again, it's up to you to decide, so why do you feel the need to beat us around the head with it? Ash.
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salvatori.
Posts: 4288
Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica
I appreciate the OP coming back and reiterating her position. The whole 'southern upbringin' just doesn't work for me though. The weight thing is a non-issue that shows vanity, the fact that you need an escort demonstrates that you fear that men are guilty until proven innocent, and you aren't 'posing for Playboy', which insinuates that women who show their hoo-has are somehow of lower standards than you. I would respectfully ask you to get off your high horse. IMHO
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Stormee
Posts: 2463
San Antonio, Texas, US
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Stormee
Posts: 2463
San Antonio, Texas, US
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Saadiq Photography
Posts: 1368
Los Angeles, California, US
salvatori. wrote: I appreciate the OP coming back and reiterating her position. The whole 'southern upbringin' just doesn't work for me though. The weight thing is a non-issue that shows vanity, the fact that you need an escort demonstrates that you fear that men are guilty until proven innocent, and you aren't 'posing for Playboy', which insinuates that women who show their hoo-has are somehow of lower standards than you. I would respectfully ask you to get off your high horse. IMHO +1 I couldn't have said it any better! However, I couldn't lowered my standards to her "southern upbringing" and let the "rude a%%hole" side of me out for few minutes. But, the mods are watching so I'll be nice...
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Saadiq Photography
Posts: 1368
Los Angeles, California, US
Krisna Fretwell wrote: What's wrong with laying out commands?? It's not like they're "you will have someone serve me" or stuff along those lines. They're simple commands to keep from lowering my standards.. No I will not lose weight because Im happy with my weight and my friends and family.. People who matter.. Even agree that I'm a better weight now than I was when I was 100 pounds. I don't want to be the one that girls look up to and are like "she's so skinny and I wanna be like er so now I have to starve myself". As a model I think you are immediately objected to being a role model. As for bringing an escort.. That is a safety issue and I will not by any means compromise my safety. And the test is about nude and implied work.. I'm going to be strict about it because I DON'T want my hooha out there for everyone to see. I didn't sign up for playboy. And this forum was not intended to ask for help or anything it was a general question about why are people rude because it is not necessary. Ad when I said my mama taught me better I wasn't running it in very ones face that I'm better than them. Just stating my mama taught me differently and that's why I have respect for people and for myself. Thank you I'm just wondering if it's possible that certain models look into special mirrors and see a totally different person than we do? I'm just saying
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Evie Wolfe
Posts: 1201
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
Funny - no-one on here has ever been anything but lovely to me. I would advise hanging around the forums silently for a while, and reading everything with an open mind. You might see that the people you found 'rude' at the beginning are actually the most useful members around here, they've just become so sick of doling out the same advice to an endless stream of newbies that their message has become a bit abrupt. Of course there are a few really vile people on here - but then there are in every walk of life. Perhaps, if you are getting so much rudeness coming your way, you should look at what you are doing to invite it in? Maybe the problem isn't with everyone else? Of course maybe it is, but if that is the case, what would complaining in the forums do about it, other than invite yet more rudeness?
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Naughty Ties
Posts: 3445
Riverview, Florida, US
salvatori. wrote: I appreciate the OP coming back and reiterating her position. The whole 'southern upbringin' just doesn't work for me though. The weight thing is a non-issue that shows vanity, the fact that you need an escort demonstrates that you fear that men are guilty until proven innocent, and you aren't 'posing for Playboy', which insinuates that women who show their hoo-has are somehow of lower standards than you. I would respectfully ask you to get off your high horse. IMHO And that's the best post in this whole thread. I hope the OP reads it.
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Marin Photo NYC
Posts: 7348
New York, New York, US
Naughty Ties wrote: And that's the best post in this whole thread. I hope the OP reads it. Yep!
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Evie_Wolfe wrote: Funny - no-one on here has ever been anything but lovely to me. I would advise hanging around the forums silently for a while, and reading everything with an open mind. You might see that the people you found 'rude' at the beginning are actually the most useful members around here, they've just become so sick of doling out the same advice to an endless stream of newbies that their message has become a bit abrupt. Of course there are a few really vile people on here - but then there are in every walk of life. Perhaps, if you are getting so much rudeness coming your way, you should look at what you are doing to invite it in? Maybe the problem isn't with everyone else? Of course maybe it is, but if that is the case, what would complaining in the forums do about it, other than invite yet more rudeness? Wise advice.
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Danielle Hieronimi
Posts: 238
Chicago, Illinois, US
salvatori. wrote: I appreciate the OP coming back and reiterating her position. The whole 'southern upbringin' just doesn't work for me though. The weight thing is a non-issue that shows vanity, the fact that you need an escort demonstrates that you fear that men are guilty until proven innocent, and you aren't 'posing for Playboy', which insinuates that women who show their hoo-has are somehow of lower standards than you. I would respectfully ask you to get off your high horse. IMHO +1
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Danielle Hieronimi
Posts: 238
Chicago, Illinois, US
Evie_Wolfe wrote: Funny - no-one on here has ever been anything but lovely to me. I would advise hanging around the forums silently for a while, and reading everything with an open mind. You might see that the people you found 'rude' at the beginning are actually the most useful members around here, they've just become so sick of doling out the same advice to an endless stream of newbies that their message has become a bit abrupt. Of course there are a few really vile people on here - but then there are in every walk of life. Perhaps, if you are getting so much rudeness coming your way, you should look at what you are doing to invite it in? Maybe the problem isn't with everyone else? Of course maybe it is, but if that is the case, what would complaining in the forums do about it, other than invite yet more rudeness? This indeed.
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Kristyn Emily
Posts: 28
Albany, New York, US
salvatori. wrote: I appreciate the OP coming back and reiterating her position. The whole 'southern upbringin' just doesn't work for me though. The weight thing is a non-issue that shows vanity, the fact that you need an escort demonstrates that you fear that men are guilty until proven innocent, and you aren't 'posing for Playboy', which insinuates that women who show their hoo-has are somehow of lower standards than you. I would respectfully ask you to get off your high horse. IMHO 3 gold stars for this one. Right on!
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Kelly Anne-Marie wrote: I forgot to mention, I suggest you make sure your measurements are right or a close guess if you are unsure...people are touchy about that around here as well, some will send you home without shooting with you if you aren't what they had thought. *Marks self-reminder*
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Stormee
Posts: 2463
San Antonio, Texas, US
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nyk fury
Posts: 2976
Port Townsend, Washington, US
Krisna Fretwell wrote: Why are some people in here so rude??? it's because....of self-loathing. seems to me.
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Bravo Magic Images
Posts: 765
Temple City, California, US
Orca Bay Images wrote: My! You do h*ve a w*y with w*rds! I was an English major in jr high lol
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Bravo Magic Images
Posts: 765
Temple City, California, US
Drew Smith Photography wrote: LOL - now this is what I call RUDE! Putting Astrix the Gaul in between a few letters doesn't mean I'm unable to read them and be offended. I'm offended I tells ya! Come on - ya gotta Brig THIS guy. C*om on it W*s Ju*t d*ne ou* o* f*n Y*u d* Kn*w fun
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Light and Lens Studio
Posts: 3450
Sisters, Oregon, US
Krisna Fretwell wrote: Why are some people in here so rude??? Maybe it's just me and my southern upbringin but is it really all that necessary to speak (type) to someone with disrespect??!! I see it everywhere. It's definetly a downfall to be around people like that.., Well, generally speaking, of course, you are correct. However, speaking in platitudes is not generally productive or conducive to a meaningful conversation or discussion. It would be nice to have a specific example of what you are talking about.
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Krisna Kaye
Posts: 18
Chino Hills, California, US
If y'all don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all
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Stormee
Posts: 2463
San Antonio, Texas, US
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Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Krisna Fretwell wrote: If y'all don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all You may have launched the thread, but it's not your thread and you don't get to dictate responses.
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Buyu
Posts: 87
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
There are rude folk in every walk of life, the arts are no different. Perhaps one issue is that your Bio doesn't come over well. Your Bio and Port have a sole function, to 'sell' you as a model to photographers. As with any form of selling, the more difficult the seller seems to be making the deal - the less likely the buyer will go ahead. With models the photographer or client will just say "Next". Typically I look at a Bio/port for 5-10 seconds and decide whether or not the model would fit in with my/my clients needs. That's not a lot of time for you to make a good impression. It may be worthwhile stepping back from modelling for a while and re-evaluating if it is something you really want to work at. At the moment your Bio comes over as 'drama-queen' and - despite your look - quite simply I (and I think many other photographers) just don't have time for that. Good Luck, Buyu
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salvatori.
Posts: 4288
Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica
Krisna Fretwell wrote: If y'all don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all You have chosen a couple of member replies that I assume you think were rude and commented on them. You have not said a word about anything that has been stated in the thread that has been constructive or common sense advice for you to absorb and interpret. Some might say that in itself is rude but I see it as this: you started a troll thread wishing to bait people into arguing with you. You have no desire to learn from things that have been pointed out to you, and just sought attention. Well, now you've gotten it. Didn't your 'Southern upbringin' teach you that vanity isn't a desirable trait? IMHO
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Deleted111
Posts: 48
Abbeville, Alabama, US
salvatori. wrote: I appreciate the OP coming back and reiterating her position. The whole 'southern upbringin' just doesn't work for me though. The weight thing is a non-issue that shows vanity, the fact that you need an escort demonstrates that you fear that men are guilty until proven innocent, and you aren't 'posing for Playboy', which insinuates that women who show their hoo-has are somehow of lower standards than you. I would respectfully ask you to get off your high horse. IMHO Escorts are a lot of the time a very good idea, I started out young and have had some experiences. Nothing sexist about it, I bring one for both male and female photographers
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salvatori.
Posts: 4288
Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica
Genevieve Devine wrote: Escorts are a lot of the time a very good idea, I started out young and have had some experiences. Nothing sexist about it, I bring one for both male and female photographers With due respect, go back and read the original post in this thread. If you wanna start another escort thread, do so, but not here. O_o
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Deleted111
Posts: 48
Abbeville, Alabama, US
Oh I did. But you're arguing that she has undesirable traits of character as well, and I'm sure she does, but bringing an escort doesnt really prove anything about her character other than being smart. I just thought it was a stupid argument
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salvatori.
Posts: 4288
Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica
Genevieve Devine wrote: Oh I did... Really? 'Cause here's the original post: "Why are some people in here so rude??? Maybe it's just me and my southern upbringin but is it really all that necessary to speak (type) to someone with disrespect??!! I see it everywhere. It's definetly a downfall to be around people like that..," No mention of escorts as far as I can tell. If you read through the six billion escort threads on the sight, you cannot come to the conclusion that bringing an escort is 'smart.' It's a choice, but not necessarily a smart one. Don't state it as fact. FYI, done commenting on the escort thing in this particular thread.
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