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SensualThemes
Posts: 3,042
Swoyersville, Pennsylvania, US


Nearly every day, 1 or 2 threads about escorts/managers/etc

I have had my share of models with dick-a-longs as plusone, and i have a simple rule.  He sits in the next room, hallway, or whatever.  Outdoor shoots at least 20 feet away unless i request his help.  This is agreed to beforehand...and he has always come prepared with a book(before smartphones) or some way of amusing himself

It has never messed with the experience at all.  Improves it, as she feels safer/better

Also, for me the first shoot w a newbie is focused on her comfort
Mar 24 13 08:59 am  Link  Quote 
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Imageri by Tim Davis
Posts: 1,387
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Marin Photography wrote:
The manager is usually daddy or the boyfriend!...I would pass on any profile like that.

Not necessarily so... I had a model contact me about building her portfolio. She messages me on Facebook saying she is impressed with my work and wants to shoot with me. I replied nice and sent her a PDF with my rates. She replied fantastic her manager would be calling me to set up a shoot. Her manager turned out to be a 20 year old female.

Mar 24 13 09:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 20,887
Portland, Oregon, US


Patchouli Nyx wrote:
manager == sluggo/boyfriend
Patrick Walberg wrote:
This is actually a very good thread and comment too!

Actually, I've worked with a llama whose mother was her manager (the llama was 20).  "Manager == sluggo/boyfriend" is not always true.

Patrick Walberg wrote:
I do hope that Joel CAM'd the profile!  I sure would have! 

It's nearly a "status" thing.  Some llamas want a manager, but they don't need a manager.  Unless it's someone with a llamaing career who is making enough money to justify the need for a manager to deal with busy schedule, I see no need for one.

How a llama handles her business is her business

Mar 24 13 09:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 20,887
Portland, Oregon, US


ForeverFotos wrote:
Try re-reading all of the rules, not just the part quoted previously.....

Here's an excerpt from the membership requirements section:

"General Requirements

-----snip-------

Must Be In A Member Category
Your profile must clearly fit into one of the member categories listed upon sign up.

Here are a few profile types that we are not currently allowing:

    Agencies/managers/recruiters/bookers/scouts/promoters"


Please reference the entire document at: http://secure.modelmayhem.com/help/rule … quirements

All that means is that managers can't have a profile offering their management services.  Ditto for agencies, recruiters, bookers, scouts, promoters, etc.  It means that a model's profile has to be hers, but again, it doesn't preclude that manager from getting help from a manager, a family member, a friend, an experienced model, an experience photographer, what have you.

Mar 24 13 09:06 am  Link  Quote 
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ForeverFotos
Posts: 6,620
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


ForeverFotos wrote:
Try re-reading all of the rules, not just the part quoted previously.....

Here's an excerpt from the membership requirements section:

"General Requirements

-----snip-------

Must Be In A Member Category
Your profile must clearly fit into one of the member categories listed upon sign up.

Here are a few profile types that we are not currently allowing:

    Agencies/managers/recruiters/bookers/scouts/promoters"


Please reference the entire document at: http://secure.modelmayhem.com/help/rule … quirements
Looknsee Photography wrote:
All that means is that managers can't have a profile offering their management services.  Ditto for agencies, recruiters, bookers, scouts, promoters, etc.  It means that a llama's profile has to be hers, but again, it doesn't preclude that manager from getting help from a manager, a family member, a friend, an experienced llama, an experience photographer, what have you.

There is also no written rule that a llama can't work with massive boils on her face, either. But you can rest assured that most photographers would not hire that llama.

Mar 24 13 10:14 am  Link  Quote 
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Looknsee Photography
Posts: 20,887
Portland, Oregon, US


ForeverFotos wrote:
There is also no written rule that a model can't work with massive boils on her face, either. But you can rest assured that most photographers would not hire that model.

http://www.looknseephoto.com/misc/Logical%20Fallacies%20408741_514569478571040_8292996_n.jpg

How does a model's skin condition contribute to our discussion on model managers?

Mar 24 13 10:49 am  Link  Quote 
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ForeverFotos
Posts: 6,620
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


Looknsee Photography wrote:
REALLY, REALLY BIG SIGN (condensed for brevity)

How does a model's skin condition contribute to our discussion on model managers?

I thought this was a discussion, not a contest to see how many pixels can be wasted in a thread.

My simple point was: given a choice of working with a model with a (model mayhem) manager and one with massive boils on her face, I would choose the boils. At least with the boils, you could hope for a photoshop miracle, it's impossible to get rid of the manager.

Mar 24 13 11:03 am  Link  Quote 
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Docta Shock Photografix
Posts: 1,725
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


I've worked with plenty of models with managers, never had an issue. I consider it the "Art
Mar 24 13 09:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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