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Retoucher
Final_Touch
Posts: 11
Levis, Quebec, Canada


Hi folk,

         What do you think about motion retouching... Do you think it's new market for retouchers?

         Now 4K products will be accessible for prosumer this years... At least it's still expensive... But the new BM 4K for 4k$, I think it's good price start point and Sharp 4K monitor will be a must tool to have!

        You could view some of my work at www.finaltouch.vg under motion retouching tab and for private content, please contact me! Your feedbacks are welcome. Thank you!


Regards,
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Apr 12 13 08:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Randall
Posts: 13,842
Chicago, Illinois, US


Impressive. I would like to know more regarding rates, would you PM me what it costs to do that type of work. Pick any video you like and cost it out for me.

Thank you!
Apr 13 13 06:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 9,743
Santa Ana, California, US


I've been considering doing some beauty motion. But stupidly didn't even consider the retouching aspect of it, which would be just as necessary as retouching stills.
Shoot, there goes that project indefinitely.
Apr 13 13 07:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sean Baker Photo
Posts: 8,036
Silver Spring, Maryland, US


John Allan wrote:
I've been considering doing some beauty motion. But stupidly didn't even consider the retouching aspect of it, which would be just as necessary as retouching stills.
Shoot, there goes that project indefinitely.

See: www.fxphd.com .  There are others as well, but principally there are ways of accessing the software (legally) which makes this fairly straightforward.  The OP's reels actually do a solid job of illustrating what the current applications are capable of doing for you (god bless point / feature tracking!).

Apr 13 13 07:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 9,743
Santa Ana, California, US


Sean Baker Photo wrote:
See: www.fxphd.com .  There are others as well, but principally there are ways of accessing the software (legally) which makes this fairly straightforward.  The OP's reels actually do a solid job of illustrating what the current applications are capable of doing for you (god bless point / feature tracking!).

Really interesting - thank you. I wonder how well this would work using their VPN tools on your own work, when you have 3 months only, busy with their sample footage taking the course?

Also, I'm curious. Is Avid Media Composer considered a top-of-the-line editing software?
I'm using Avid's Pro Tools (which is the industry standard for audio production) for a few years now, but I'm not familiar with their standing with video?

Apr 13 13 10:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Final_Touch
Posts: 11
Levis, Quebec, Canada


Hi folk,

        Thank you for you comments... For myself, I made some tools for Nuke to achieve quick turn around to retouch like Photoshop.

        I'm still working to find a solution for long shot retouching with less time consumming. But, still have a lot of problem to deal with occlusion for live recording and retouching.


Cheers!
Apr 19 13 05:41 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Final_Touch
Posts: 11
Levis, Quebec, Canada


Here a sample of my retouching process...

http://player.vimeo.com/video/64499739
Apr 28 13 06:56 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
nobody frm nowhere
Posts: 25
Nottingham, Maryland, US


amazing. thank u.
Apr 28 13 10:18 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
nobody frm nowhere
Posts: 25
Nottingham, Maryland, US


a Japanese company  Foton Inc is working on such software which would make things easy for motion retouching.

they did a demo last yr.

did anyone get that?


n i think their best part is, it can be retouched in Photoshop.

so, might be a plugin kinda software.

http://www.echitwan.com.np/?p=699
Apr 28 13 10:25 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Final_Touch
Posts: 11
Levis, Quebec, Canada


Yeap! I was in touch with them! They not use any plugins... Just a good workflow with Nuke, but they also have a strong workhorse software ; Flame from Autodesk ( around 1200$/h to rent a room to edit)

Many people made a mistake about what they are doing... It's not something really news for the insiders... Like Photoshop 20 years ago no body knows about retouching and before Photoshop we have Scintex, Retouch Adam Machine and so on...

I think it's still belong to highend market with really big budget!!!


Cheers!
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Apr 28 13 06:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Film/TV Producer
upstart productions
Posts: 82
Hartland, Vermont, US


Wow, the world has come a long way. Back in the 90s we used to have to go in and use Photoshop frame-by-frame. It was a big PITA.
Apr 29 13 08:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SKITA Studios
Posts: 1,563
Boston, Massachusetts, US


upstart productions wrote:
Wow, the world has come a long way. Back in the 90s we used to have to go in and use Photoshop frame-by-frame. It was a big PITA.

Wow...nuts :-O

I'm still amazed you can do the video retouch stuff nowadays at all...probably only possible w/ today's GPUs.

Apr 29 13 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Nathanfx
Posts: 230
Santa Monica, California, US


I've played around with the planar tracker but..requires an expensive license to on top of nuke...and highly unreliable as it uses feature tracking and not imagine matching. Where you could use Mocha Planar tracking much more successfully. I use to even tried to work out workflows where I used PF tracks (2011 +) Feature  tracking engine and exported and converted them over. They're fantastic motion analysis tools but  they're largely inflexible and at times over cumbersome in the processing power needed for luminancy and motion blur analysis models that may not successfully work.

In real world situations you're going to have untrackable flashing lights over the surface of the skin, or shadows crossing the surface..or motion blur where someone is not just standing conveniently still. Real world production schedules requires you to do a complicated 48 frame shot in an hour or less. Which includes, Cloning, Warping and over all masking. So relying on getting everything by hand key framing it is a must.
Dec 16 13 01:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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