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Kezins Photography

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Apr 30 13 03:29 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

pt 1 of 4
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james29.htm

"In August 2004 American Free Press reported that eight out of twenty men serving in one unit during the 2003 invasion of Iraq had developed malignancies. This translates into 40 % of the soldiers in that one unit developing malignancies within a 16 month period of time. What is causing these terrible health problems?"


"Since 1943 the military has been aware of the extreme toxicity of uranium as a gas. A Oct 30, 1943 memo from Manhattan Project physicist James B. Conant to Brig. General L.B. Abrams stated that as a gas warfare instrument the radioactive material would be ground into microscopic particles forming dust and smoke and could be distributed by ground fired projectiles, land vehicles or aerial bombs. In this form it would be inhaled by personnel. They estimated that one millionth of a gram would be fatal. There are no known methods of treatment for such casualties."

"The depleted uranium DU was also recommended as a permanent terrain contaminant which could be used to destroy populations by contaminating water supplies and agricultural land with radioactive dust. "

Apr 30 13 06:12 pm Link

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Gulag

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Atlanta, Georgia, US

so the next question is whether or not they will use DU against American citizens in America when the time comes.

Apr 30 13 07:16 pm Link

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Tim Little Photography

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Gulag wrote:
so the next question is whether or not they will use DU against American citizens in America when the time comes.

Well, look at what happened in the Boston area last week. The basic rights of the citizens of the area were suspended in toto. The freedom to move about at will, taken away. The right to peacefully assemble, taken away. And on and on.

Now most of us will say it was worth it to catch the evil SOB that murdered and injured all those people. This was the first time. What happens the next time if there is push back from the people.

Would DU be used against us? Of course. If an argument can be made that will keep most of America from screaming bloody murder nothing is off limits.

Apr 30 13 08:22 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Just redefine the problem to no problem.

Previous exposure limits were set based on actual testing, measurements and a defined "acceptable risk".


EPA to raise "safe" limits
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2162

"the new standards will result in a “nearly 1000-fold increase for exposure to strontium-90, a 3000 to 100,000-fold hike for exposure to iodine-131; and an almost 25,000 rise for exposure to radioactive nickel-63? in drinking water."


US gov’t may raise radiation exposure levels in food, drink, soil
http://digitaljournal.com/article/305386

We all deserve to know why some in the agency want to legitimize exposing the public to radiation at levels vastly higher than what EPA officially considers dangerous,” Erickson added.
Internal documents obtained by PEER under a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit last autumn show that, under the updated PAG, a single glass of water could give the equivalent of a lifetime’s permissible exposure. According to PEER, the   new limits would cause a cancer in as much as every fourth person exposed.


EPA to Raise Limits for Radiation Exposure While Canada Turns off Fallout Detectors
http://www.organicconsumers.org/article … _22958.cfm


Reaction to EPA's Radiation Exposure Rule
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/3712666/r … osure-rule

May 01 13 04:10 pm Link

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Gulag

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Atlanta, Georgia, US

Tim Little Photography wrote:
Would DU be used against us? Of course. If an argument can be made that will keep most of America from screaming bloody murder nothing is off limits.

I was wondering how many of those billions of ammo DHS prepared for the land of the free are equipped with DU. Perhaps all?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/ … versation/

May 02 13 04:55 pm Link

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T J Khamas

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Will Snizek wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/r-b-stuar … 37346.html

Iraq's cancer rates have gone up many folds since 1991 gulf war.

May 03 13 04:23 pm Link

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Bare Essential Photos

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It's my understanding that one of the agents for radiation related illnesses among soldiers and civilians has to do with the high caliber uranium tip bullets used on the Warthogs (tank killers) during the two wars with Iran. This allows the bullets to easily penetrate tanks. The Warthogs were one of the main weapons used and they had a field day with the Iranian tanks, but at what costs?

I quickly read the link by the OP and didn't see any mention of the uranium tip bullets used by the Warthogs as a possible cause for the radiation illnesses.

May 03 13 05:55 pm Link

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Michael Bots

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Kingston, Ontario, Canada

It's not like they don't know it's bad for you.

historical reference
http://www.kens5.com/news/national/172659471.html
http://www.citywatchla.com/4box-right/5 … us-history

Depleted uranium: the lingering poison
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/362484.stm

http://www.newsinferno.com/?p=24924
http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/08/07/ … ing-range/

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/ … _cancer_c/
"In 2004, the CDC declared the Fallon cluster to be just such an outlier, recommending that no new environmental testing be carried out there"

[nothing to see here folks - move along]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21554862

May 04 13 06:58 am Link

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