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Pet peeves when shooting male models?
Frustrating traits, certain poses you can't stand, nervous habits lets hear it... (taking notes - curious if I've done some of them but the photographer was too nice to mention it to me) Jul 09 13 08:21 pm Link There are several things I hate about models. I like to use hats as props and some models don't want to wear them because it messes up their hair. (I am cue ball bald and have no sympathy). I have a model who is a fantastic poser but he does not take direction well because he thinks he knows best. Fitness models and bodybuilders are usually extremely self critical. I show them the camera back often during my shoots and they say, "That pose makes me look fat." "My arms are too skinny." "My stomach looks bad, where are my abs." "I am holding water." "I'm depleted." One guy even told me that Muscle Dismorphia was his middle name. LOL. When they are so negative about their appearance it brings me down and ruins the mood. I tell them 95% of American males would give their left nut to look like they do on their worst day. Another thing I hate is the modern metrosexual look. Most of these guys shave every inch of their bodies, chest, armpits, crotch, everywhere. I think men shoud look like men and not prepubescent boys. I can live with judicious trimming but not shaved. Pet Peeve: How long does it take to change clothes? I can understand women wanting to primp and preen but guys? Jeans and a tee shirt, underwear change, athletic gear should not take 10 minutes or more to put on, much less 15 Some models have such low body fat that they get chilled at 75 degrees. I am taking three meds that can cause excessive sweating so I like it on the cool side. Last but not least, some guys don't look like their port pics. I flew a guy in from Florida and he was not as advertised. Male models: Keep your port up to date, PLEASE. OTOH since I mostly do paid shoots they seldom flake and are on time. No dead grandmothers, sick pets, car breakdowns etc. Many of my guys are so grateful to be earning easy money that they are cooperative and undemanding. One positive.... they don't need smoke breaks. LOL. Jul 09 13 08:50 pm Link Wood Jul 09 13 08:51 pm Link Cherrystone wrote: I agree... I get DQs from POTD because some of them are too obvious. But that is for MM, ordinarily I don't mind seeing non flaccid. Indeed some fluffing can improve a nude image.. It seldom happens probably because most of them are straight and I am an elderly overweight gay photographer. I don't do couple shoot either. Jul 09 13 08:55 pm Link Stanley L Moore wrote: This response hit a homerun for me, thanks Stanley!! Just the kind of insight I was looking for Jul 09 13 08:55 pm Link I stopped shooting with male models when one of them started sending me flirtations texts. Why he thought I went that way I have no clue. Jul 11 13 02:12 pm Link AG_Boston wrote: so who/what do you shoot now? Jul 11 13 02:22 pm Link Cherrystone wrote: You mean like construction-themed shoots? Jul 11 13 03:24 pm Link AG_Boston wrote: Weird. I never got mash notes from a model. And at my age it is unlikely. About 30 years ago after our third shoot I asked a guy if he wanted to pose nude for me. He thought about it then said he would be uncomfortable being naked in front of a clothed photographer but he would do it if I would get naked too. LOL. I did it and it turned out nice. Jul 11 13 06:31 pm Link L A U B E N H E I M E R wrote: I do a lot of stuff around the Boston area for charities. My work has been seen on the New England Aquarium website and I've done stuff for Special Olympics, and am setup to do shoots for Make-A-Wish Foundation. I've greatly reduced the number of shoots I do with models. Not just because of this one model, but because I like doing stuff which feels meaningful (I'm sorry if that offends anyone). I also do some stuff for various photo clubs I'm involved in. Jul 11 13 09:18 pm Link Stanley L Moore wrote: It's happened to me more than once. Once with the mentioned male model, then once with someone I knew outside of the photography world. Why these guys think I'm gay is beyond me. Jul 11 13 09:20 pm Link SPV Photo wrote: Uhmmmm.......nope. That thing that occasionally makes you do a hand-stand to take your morning-piss? That kinda 'wood' Jul 12 13 02:45 am Link I have never petted a male model's peeve, so no. Jul 12 13 04:46 pm Link When they think men only need one expression. Don't keep giving me one go to look every other frame, you need just as many as the girls Jul 12 13 05:03 pm Link Why can't people say "erect penis" or a "tumescent penis"? They are proper and correct phrases for "wood." Jul 12 13 06:23 pm Link My greatest concern is when male models shave their axillary hair, under their arms. Stanley pointed out that men should look like men and don't mind the needed manscaping and trimming. Jul 12 13 06:25 pm Link Ronald Nyein Zaw Tan wrote: Why are male nude models so consumed by/with their penises? Jul 12 13 06:42 pm Link NewBoldPhoto wrote: Nobody wants to look less than their full potential. Jul 12 13 09:30 pm Link Boys have long checked out others in lockerrooms for generations. Size does matter to some... make that most guys. It is a cultural thing. Classical Greeks thought a large penis was barbaric and tghey stretched their foreskins to cover the head. Look at statues and Greek vases. All penises are small. Jul 12 13 11:46 pm Link A vain male model is a very vain person. But it must be remembered that male fitness models, at least, do put a lot of time and effort into maintaining their look, and they should be commended for that. Jul 13 13 12:26 am Link Kent Art Photography wrote: I must say most of mine have not been particularly vain. Instead they are too critical of their look. Fitness guys spend tons of money on supplements, gym memberships, special foods.... and lots of it. Some of them eat 3000-4000 calries per day of stuff like salmon, chicken breast, lean beef. That costs money. And you are right they put in huge effoorts trying to look their best. Jul 13 13 01:19 pm Link Jul 13 13 01:21 pm Link Stanley L Moore wrote: Oh thank God! Jul 13 13 01:24 pm Link so far.... They don't show up! I've tried to set up shoots with male models, or male and female models together, and when they find out they aren't going to get a date with the ladies they cancel! I'm sure eventually it will work out, but I haven't had a male model show up for a shoot yet. Jul 13 13 08:49 pm Link MikesGems wrote: Mine almost always show up. And they are not looking for a date from me Jul 13 13 09:58 pm Link I work with a fair bit of male nudes and my biggest pet peeve is when I ask for images/portfolio and they send me pictures of their penis... Am much more interested in face and musculature. Jul 14 13 02:50 am Link Cherrystone wrote: Ronald Nyein Zaw Tan wrote: Jul 14 13 02:55 am Link Why do so many male models with issues ruin it for the rest of us who are serious about what we do? I know, that was very off-topic....but....it bothers me nonetheless, especially when I read threads like this. Jul 16 13 07:10 am Link Pet Peeves are the same for male as with the female Don't give me one expression or pose continuously, it gets boring a old real fast. NO CELL PHONES, don't take calls, don't check your texts, or anything, when/if we take a brake, then you can. Or if you have told me prior to starting to shoot that you are expecting an important phone call, then you may. Don't act like you know everything or you're better then me/anyone else that is there, or that I have worked with, or worked for, we're all equals, no one is better then anyone else. Take direction and don't talk back if I give you direction. I had one model that had a perfect pose, but just the direction she posed was just slightly off to my lights, I asked her to turn just slightly and she expected me to reposition all my lights, rather then her turn about 3 inches. And lastly, if you piss me off, and I tell you that the shoot is over, don't stand around an argue it, that will not put me in a better mood, and will only piss me off more. If I tell you the shoot is over and to leave, get your shit and get out. Jul 21 13 10:07 am Link Trying to hard to pose.. body isn't in shape, talks too much on set. About all I can think of. I do shoot a bit with men but shoot more beauty with women. It's good for photographers to shoot both good if they want to be considered for good jobs. Jul 21 13 10:09 am Link The hand on the chin, and eyebrows raised pose. I despise it. Jul 21 13 01:37 pm Link That Italian Guy wrote: +1 Jul 22 13 11:07 pm Link Vinny wrote: Smaller pool of people means the actions of a few look bigger. Oct 16 13 12:09 am Link Posing or facial expressions that are stiff for lack of better word. I started shooting dancers recently and I don't think I can go back to shooting non-dancers. Oct 16 13 02:07 am Link |