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j3_photo

Posts: 19885

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
That Sigma 35mm 1.4 is fantastic!

Sure is!
https://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/jeffpartypics/IMG_0199web_zps3bb8d1b3.jpg
smile

Aug 10 13 03:43 pm Link

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Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Chuckarelei wrote:

Sigma outperforms OEM like Canon and Nikon? First time I heard it.

Zeiss, may be? But I really doubt Sigma has.

Where have you been?  You are still in the past.

Aug 10 13 04:50 pm Link

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ChanStudio - OtherSide

Posts: 5403

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

de0rbit wrote:
I didn't think so after I watched this:

http://www.thatnikonguy.com/gear-talk/i … y-all-that

Try these...

http://photographylife.com/reviews/sigma-35mm-f1-4/3

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/792-si … fx?start=1

then compare it with the other 35mm f1.4 lenses..

Aug 10 13 10:15 pm Link

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ChanStudio - OtherSide

Posts: 5403

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

Chuckarelei wrote:
Sigma outperforms OEM like Canon and Nikon? First time I heard it.

Zeiss, may be? But I really doubt Sigma has.

Check out the above links..  I think some of you non believer are sleeping... smile

Aug 10 13 10:18 pm Link

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Vincent_L

Posts: 60

Los Angeles, California, US

The "review" is completely worthless. The shots are clearly OOF. Had he done his homework he would have realized that the Sigma has issues with focus, at infinity, on both Canon and Nikon bodies. This is widely reported. Some have had some success addressing this issue with the USB dock.

Regardless, taking hand held pictures of trees in the wind and showing images via crappy compressed YouTube video is hardly the best approach for a review.


de0rbit wrote:

I didn't think so after I watched this:

http://www.thatnikonguy.com/gear-talk/i … y-all-that

Aug 11 13 04:58 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

TheStarvingArtist wrote:
How can you even compare a sigma to a Zeiss?

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01 … m-shootout

Aug 11 13 09:15 pm Link

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R.EYE.R

Posts: 3436

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

Tony-S wrote:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01 … m-shootout

Shootout between 50mm at minimum focusing distance without any sample photos???

Aug 11 13 09:30 pm Link

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eybdoog

Posts: 2647

New York, New York, US

Personally, I have never been a fan of Sigma lenses. I have not worked with the newer ones mentioned, but most of them that I have encountered have always had some form of barrel distortion issues where you have to go through several copies in order to get a good one. On the other hand though, give me a full set of Zeiss primes any day!  There are so many control factors in Zeiss lenses that simply out perform any other lens on the market. If you can't afford them, at least rent one every now and then. They are perfection. good luck

Aug 11 13 09:33 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Charlie-CNP wrote:
On the other hand though, give me a full set of Zeiss primes any day!  There are so many control factors in Zeiss lenses that simply out perform any other lens on the market. If you can't afford them, at least rent one every now and then. They are perfection. good luck

They are hardly perfection. Zeiss 50mm f/2 ZE macro planar.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6980011611_21c601173b_b.jpg
SMC Takumar 85-210 f/4.5 M42

Aug 11 13 09:38 pm Link

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R.EYE.R

Posts: 3436

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

Tony-S wrote:

They are hardly perfection. Zeiss 50mm f/2 ZE macro planar.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6980011611_21c601173b_b.jpg
SMC Takumar 85-210 f/4.5 M42

???

Aug 11 13 11:08 pm Link

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j3_photo

Posts: 19885

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

R.EYE.R wrote:

???

See the CA?

Aug 12 13 12:04 am Link

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j3_photo

Posts: 19885

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Charlie-CNP wrote:
Personally, I have never been a fan of Sigma lenses. I have not worked with the newer ones mentioned,...

Stop right there... then get some of the new ones.

Aug 12 13 12:04 am Link

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R.EYE.R

Posts: 3436

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

j3_photo wrote:

See the CA?

Show me one without in OOF especially in contrasty areas. And wide open as well please..

Aug 12 13 12:11 am Link

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j3_photo

Posts: 19885

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

R.EYE.R wrote:

Show me one without in OOF especially in contrasty areas. And wide open as well please..

This one posted is not in OOF areas...and the claim they are 'perfection' is why Tony posted that- to contradict.

Aug 12 13 12:14 am Link

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R.EYE.R

Posts: 3436

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

j3_photo wrote:

This one posted is not in OOF areas...and the claim they are 'perfection' is why Tony posted that- to contradict.

Oh, I get it! Sorry, I thought you were aerious there for a moment..

Aug 12 13 01:17 am Link

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j3_photo

Posts: 19885

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

j3_photo wrote:
This one posted is not in OOF areas...and the claim they are 'perfection' is why Tony posted that- to contradict.

R.EYE.R wrote:
Oh, I get it! Sorry, I thought you were aerious there for a moment..

Quit trolling.

Aug 12 13 01:27 am Link

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Rakesh Malik

Posts: 498

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Photos by Lorrin wrote:
Zeiss's only problem for me beside price is that they do not auto focus.

There's a series of Zeiss lenses that also say "Sony" on the side that DO autofocus, even though they're made with the same glass as all of the other contemporary Zeiss lenses out there. smile

Aug 12 13 12:32 pm Link

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Rakesh Malik

Posts: 498

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Ruben Sanchez wrote:
As for Zeiss lenses, they are in a different league of their own, having used Canon, Sigma, Tokina Pro, and Zeiss lenses on my cameras.  But who knows, it could happen some day, but who would buy a Sigma lens for their own Hassleblad or Rollieflex?

Given that Sigma doesn't make any lenses that cover 6x4.5, probably no one. smile

For a Red or Black Magic, however...

Aug 12 13 12:34 pm Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Charlie-CNP wrote:
Personally, I have never been a fan of Sigma lenses. I have not worked with the newer ones mentioned, but most of them that I have encountered have always had some form of barrel distortion issues where you have to go through several copies in order to get a good one. On the other hand though, give me a full set of Zeiss primes any day!  There are so many control factors in Zeiss lenses that simply out perform any other lens on the market. If you can't afford them, at least rent one every now and then. They are perfection. good luck

The new Sigmas focuses in a completely different manner than the old sigmas. Meaning, they actually do focus. I shot my 35 art in a light rain, whinch is a tough environment, and got 90% in focus shots. In less demanding conditions its been dead on.

I had, and RMA'd, the last Sigma 24-70 f2.8 HSM. It was a pile of carp. These new lenses are different.

Aug 12 13 03:18 pm Link

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ChanStudio - OtherSide

Posts: 5403

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

Not all Zeiss lenses are perfect.  Some aren't even that great to begin with..

Now, I am interested in the 55mm f1.4 (I am curious how much sharper it is compare to the Sigma 35mm f1.4 "Art".

Aug 12 13 04:55 pm Link

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James Andrew Imagery

Posts: 6713

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Photos by Lorrin wrote:
Zeiss's only problem for me beside price is that they do not auto focus.

All my Zeiss lenses autofocus.

Aug 12 13 05:03 pm Link

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Mcary

Posts: 1803

Fredericksburg, Virginia, US

Photos by Lorrin wrote:
Zeiss's only problem for me beside price is that they do not auto focus.

There a huge difference between manually focusing with a lens that designed for manual focus and manually focusing with a lens that was designed for auto focus. Of course since most DSLRs are set-up for primarily AF shooting switching out the standard focusing screen for a Split-image or a Super Precision Matte is a good idea.

Aug 12 13 05:06 pm Link

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Tony-S

Posts: 1460

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Mcary wrote:
There a huge difference between manually focusing with a lens that designed for manual focus and manually focusing with a lens that was designed for auto focus. Of course since most DSLRs are set-up for primarily AF shooting switching out the standard focusing screen for a Split-image or a Super Precision Matte is a good idea.

This is really unnecessary with Zeiss' current lenses that have focus confirmation. For older or adapted lenses without such chips the SE/MP is very nice though. I have that screen for my EOS 3.

Aug 13 13 05:42 am Link