Jim Shibley wrote:
I need to start paying attention more to where I am & where to escape.

This is always a good idea. Look at how many people have been killed in packed nightclubs when a fast moving fire suddenly breaks out. Regardless of the cause (active shooter, fire, whatever), once the stampede of panicked people starts, you are basically royally screwed. I've always made it a habit (where ever I am) to be as close as possible to an exit. Some call it paranoia, I call it sound risk management.

ernst tischler wrote:
That video is good advice for the unarmed sheeple in such an event.

I disagree. Armed or not, that video offers excellent advice (and yes, I am armed and have had extensive combat pistol training over the years). My weapon only comes out when **all** other options are off the table.

Lohkee wrote:
Armed or not, that video offers excellent advice (and yes, I am armed and have had extensive combat pistol training over the years). My weapon only comes out when **all** other options are no longer available.

Options.

When the S hits the proverbial fan, we can never have too many.

Click Hamilton wrote:

Options.

When the S hits the proverbial fan, we can never have too many.

Yep, options are a **good** thing.

RennsportPhotography wrote:
Of course another option is bring your gun to work day. Need to keep ALL options open.

I agree (Assuming your employer will allow it. Many will not). That said, my weapon is still not coming out unless all other options are off the table. Sorry, I'm not the lone ranger, and I am not responsible for you.

Vintagevista wrote:
Situational awareness - the mental and physical understanding to know when you are screwed - and when you have a chance.

I usually think here in S Cal. about earthquakes - where could I go? - could I get out? - where would safe ground be?  (We are WAYYYYY overdue for a strong quake in LA - Not the "Big One" - but a 6+)

I was in the sub basement of a tower in LA over the weekend - and my thought as I was going up to the exhibit -  and my mind flashed "If we have a big one now - I'm dead."

Earthquakes, fires, power outages, riots, dirty-bombs and chemical attacks, contaminated water supplies, etc., etc., etc. Many kinds of fast moving disasters can lead to widespread societal collapse in a short period of time. It doesn't take much for people to panic and go bananas.

There's a thin line between civilized behavior and the destructive chaos of fear and anarchy.

You just reminded me to change the water in the water tanks of my motorhome sitting on my driveway.

It's not organized, but I have lots of camping gear around me, and enough food and water for at least a month. At a yard sale last year I bought a case box of military MRE's for $25. Doesn't hurt, might help. It's somewhere in my piles of clutter, LOL.

I've been looking for one of these to tuck away in my garden shed. When freeway traffic comes to a standstill during a mass exodus, it might be just the ticket for mobility. A siphon hose doesn't take much additional space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_KLR650

Potassium Iodide tablets and a personal radiation detector is not a bad thing to have handy. Especially living in a place like southern California. I've read that cans of tuna are alternatives for potassium iodide, but need to reconfirm the volume per day. Cans of tuna are excellent for the food supply list. I like tuna fish salads and sandwiches anyway, so there's always at least a case pack rotating on the shelf at any given time. I buy in bulk at Costco.

Click Hamilton wrote:
Earthquakes, fires, power outages, riots, dirty-bombs and chemical attacks, contaminated water supplies, etc., etc., etc. Many kinds of fast moving disasters can lead to widespread societal collapse in a short period of time.

There's a very fine line between civilized behavior and the destructive chaos of fear and anarchy.

You just reminded me to change the water in the water tanks of my motorhome sitting on my driveway.

It's not organized, but I have lots of camping gear around me, and enough food and water for at least a month. At a yard sale last year I bought a case box of military MRE's for $25. Doesn't hurt, might help. It's somewhere in my piles of clutter, LOL.

I've been looking for one of these to tuck away in my garden shed. When freeway traffic comes to a standstill during a mass exodus, it might be just the ticket for mobility. A siphon hose doesn't take much additional space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_KLR650

Potassium Iodide tablets and a personal radiation detector is not a bad thing to have handy. Especially living in a place like southern California. I've read that cans of tuna are alternatives for potassium iodide, but need to reconfirm the volume per day. Cans of tuna are excellent for the food supply list. I like tuna fish salads and sandwiches anyway, so there's always at least a case pack rotating on the shelf at any given time. I buy in bulk at Costco.

Well it all depends on the disaster that you are faced with. In most cases, people would be far better off staying where they are. Going mobile means being **mobile** which is far easier said than done. Think about L.A. during rush hour. Now think about the same scenario if everyone and their mother is trying to escape L.A. A full tank of gas is not going to get you very far. Then what? A bike gives you much more mobility but severely limits what you can carry. If you decide to scamper, where will you get water out on the road? A well made tuna fish sammich is a wonderful thing. Eating tuna out of the can, ummm, not so great

The (average) human body can go about 30 - 60 days without food. Five or so days without water and you are most likely dead. If you stay where you are you probably have plenty of water (think your hot water tank here). If all of your neighbors have scampered, then you probably have more fresh water than you could possible use.

Do some research (and not on survivalist sites that are trying to sell you something). You will be very surprised to find out what your priorities should be to actually survive.

Yep, when the shit hits the fan I will shelter in place if at all possible.

Click Hamilton wrote:
After about a week of breathing too much smoke, I decided to take a few days off and drive east on Freeway 8 to Arizona to clear my lungs.

Highway 8 is a fun drive, but no stopping in the Vekol Valley - it's not a good place to be.

Lohkee wrote:
Five or so days without water and you are most likely dead. If you stay where you are you probably have plenty of water (think your hot water tank here). If all of your neighbors have scampered, then you probably have more fresh water than you could possible use.

Lifestraws can be rigged with a big plastic bag and a rubber band to gravity-feed a storage tank, too.

Or, better yet, a Katadyn Pocket or the equivalent. People talk about using the water in the upper tank of a toilet... but I wouldn't without boiling or filtering.

Caradoc wrote:
Lifestraws can be rigged with a big plastic bag and a rubber band to gravity-feed a storage tank, too.

Or, better yet, a Katadyn Pocket or the equivalent. People talk about using the water in the upper tank of a toilet... but I wouldn't without boiling or filtering.

Lohkee's survival tips.

When the shit hits the fan, get a nice bottle of scotch and a lawn chair. Watch your neighbors scamper knowing that all of the food and water they are leaving behind are yours for the taking. . . . . . .


Hmmmmmm, I bet Mr. Hamilton has some really fine wines and cigars

Lohkee wrote:

Lohkee's survival tips.

When the shit hits the fan, get a nice bottle of scotch and a lawn chair. Watch your neighbors scamper knowing that all of the food and water they are leaving behind are yours for the taking. . . . . . .


Hmmmmmm, I bet Mr. Hamilton has some really fine wines and cigars

Prepares escape plan for neighbors...Run now, take nothing with you, get away fast!

Lohkee wrote:
Hmmmmmm, I bet Mr. Hamilton has some really fine wines and cigars

Enough to carry us through most emergencies.

I'm always happy to share

http://www.pbase.com/click_hamilton/ima … 168/medium

Click Hamilton wrote:
Thank you for launching this thread.

It's a part of emergency preparedness.

Before anyone jumps to the wrong conclusions, look who is behind producing and distributing these programs and training videos. The credits are at the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VcSwejU2D0

I particularly liked the sign on the door that says, "Only unarmed victims inside."