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Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
John Jebbia wrote:
To all the men in this thread who don't like the camel toe, I'll be stopping by later to pick up your Man Cards... Ha! Hee hee. 
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Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
That Italian Guy wrote:
If it works with the mood of the image then I might leave it.
http://stefanobrunesci.tumblr.com/image/54857773519 (18+)
But generally speaking, for fashion images it's probably better removed.
Just my $0.02
Ciao
Stefano
www.stefanobrunesci.com I had to squint to notice and then was doubtful. That isn't what I call ct, (sigh, wish it was that slight in my life. edit to add: in my case it is easily avoidable and now after considering all sides and reading Cailtins posts I prefer it hidden and private. I really do not see any reason to leave my anatomy sitting in such a way that it looks like small testicles when all that is required to avoid it is to adjust things. Then again, we never really defined in this thread what the ct really looks like. If the CT is what Stefano is showing then it would be of zero concern to me.
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Fred Greissing
Posts: 6427
Los Angeles, California, US
I'd like to know who the hell came up with such an ugly expression
for this little part of female anatomy. It's got to be an American thing....
Italians have far more affectionate names for it
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 22232
Stamford, Connecticut, US
Fred Greissing wrote:
I'd like to know who the hell came up with such an ugly expression
for this little part of female anatomy. It's got to be an American thing....
Italians have far more affectionate names for it Do tell....
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Elisa 1
Posts: 3344
Monmouth, Wales, United Kingdom
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
is camel toe considered 18+ on MM?
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Michelle Genevieve
Posts: 1140
Gaithersburg, Maryland, US
Fred Greissing wrote:
Italians have far more affectionate names for it Yeah, I'm curious as well!
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
MyrnaByrna Jen B wrote:
I had to squint to notice and then was doubtful. That isn't what I call ct, (sigh, wish it was that slight in my life. I am surprised NOBODY in this thread brought up this ode to the toe...
Enjoy:
Bob & Tom: The Camel Toe Song
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Isis22
Posts: 3557
Muncie, Indiana, US
udor wrote:
My dear "fleshy sister" (I love that term ) I am surprised NOBODY in this thread brought this ode to the toe up...
Enjoy:
Bob & Tom: The Camel Toe Song
I laughed, hard. Thanks, Udor;)
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Gelsen Aripia
Posts: 1407
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I didn't even know what "camel toe" was. I had to look it up on Wikipedia! (nerd...)
I personally think the little spat between a model who is going to do a shoot that shows off her Camel Toe and another member named "sweet cheeks couture" to be quite amusing, all things considered. : )
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
Eugenya wrote:
I didn't even know what "camel toe" was. I had to look it up on Wikipedia! (nerd...)
I personally think the little spat between a model who is going to do a shoot that shows off her Camel Toe and another member named "sweet cheeks couture" to be quite amusing, all things considered. : ) LOL its great entertainment. I have got a few done and getting a few more this week. Taking a little time to do so after each shoot. Have not had any of the photographers this week say no. It was more of Hell yea! LOL
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Herman Surkis
Posts: 10856
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Caitin Bre wrote:
The conditioning starts when we are very young and continues when we are teens and told its disgusting to experiment with sex as we want to so bad. Hormones and mental confusion ensue and we become fcuked up about the entire subject.
Then it continues into our 1st marriage where are husbands say I want to show you off but I don't want any men looking at you sexually. Then its I want you to give me the best blow job in the world and by the way how did you get so good at it. Then its I want you to fcuk me like a freak. Then its you must have had a lot of experience with this to be that good.
The conditioning has confused everything because its not natural. You need to interact with a better quality of man.
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Verco Handel
Posts: 293
Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China
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Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
udor wrote:
I am surprised NOBODY in this thread brought up this ode to the toe...
Enjoy:
Bob & Tom: The Camel Toe Song
Tee hee! Ha. 
I'm not sure btw when I started to use the term fleshy but, I feel that it is a term of explanation, acceptance and non-judgment. I started working in womens clinic and with patients at a young age. The description just seemed far more natural to me than any other one I could think of to describe when I have to adjust a patients flesh. [edit to clarify, on a seperate note....]Trust that it is far more enjoyable to have the flesh, (ah hem, trust that.)
Jen
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New Art Photo
Posts: 701
Los Angeles, California, US
udor wrote:
NOOOOOOoooooooooooooo...!!! 
Don't mess with the toe... it's a beautiful marvel of nature!!! + Seriously. We don't want women and men looking like Barbie and Ken.
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
New Art Photo wrote:
+ Seriously. We don't want women and men looking like Barbie and Ken. Especially because the survival of the species could me an immediate problem...
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
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P I X I E
Posts: 35440
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
K I C K H A M wrote:
I personally hate it.
Sometimes the clothes don't allow for anything else.
What do I want you to do about it? ANYTHING. Tell me about it. Photoshop it. Hell, crop it. Just pretty please don't leave it in the picture. +1
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
MyrnaByrna Jen B wrote:
Tee hee! Ha.
I'm not sure btw when I started to use the term fleshy but, I feel that it is a term of explanation, acceptance and non-judgment. I started working in womens clinic and with patients at a young age. The description just seemed far more natural to me than any other one I could think of to describe when I have to adjust a patients flesh. [edit to clarify, on a seperate note....]Trust that it is far more enjoyable to have the flesh, (ah hem, trust that.)
Jen Wonderful attitude, Jen!
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R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US
I'm always just straight up with a model about such things. I had one model wearing a string thong and her labia kept falling out and I would just tell her, "Your pussy is showing." In response she would laugh and "correct" things. Women aren't as delicate and easily offended as we men think they are.
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R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US
Fred Greissing wrote:
I'd like to know who the hell came up with such an ugly expression
for this little part of female anatomy. It's got to be an American thing....
Italians have far more affectionate names for it It is an American thing. Not all Americans, but Americans in general do have a negative and childish attitude towards genitals.
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Robby Rockett
Posts: 85
Palm Coast, Florida, US
If i ever get it i hope it gets fixed somehow!
Really though i guess it depends on the shot, like miss unbound said.
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Kirst
Posts: 550
Derry, New Hampshire, US
i've never had it happen, but some girls are just prone to it, whether it's their shape or what they choose to wear or how they wear things, whatever. I think if it's something that can be fixed by saying "your bikini is riding up a little, please adjust it" then say it. but if you didn't notice it until after the shoot and you have to edit it out, that's on you. fix it.
girls, be conscious of this issue, but dont shoot with a photographer if you don't trust him/her to make you look your best
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R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US
Kirst Callahan wrote:
i've never had it happen, but some girls are just prone to it, whether it's their shape or what they choose to wear or how they wear things, whatever. I think if it's something that can be fixed by saying "your bikini is riding up a little, please adjust it" then say it. but if you didn't notice it until after the shoot and you have to edit it out, that's on you. fix it.
girls, be conscious of this issue, but dont shoot with a photographer if you don't trust him/her to make you look your best It really is just their "shape". Vaginas are not created equal, as I'm sure you already know. Some women just have prominent labia.
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Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
Who wants to see my pussy? lets celebrate the pussy with some awesome Camel Toes. WTF? 
This ain't SF2, or even OT. superb industry post.
I'll pass, thanks.
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1731
San Antonio, Texas, US
This pic has lots of listings because of the CT.. I was not trying to shoot it that way but when I saw the pics it was there on some pics the lips were coming out of the thong... the model was okay with this pic.. so I posted. [img] ![https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120804/16/501dadb8bd421.jpg]()
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Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Charger Photography wrote:
This pic has lots of listings because of the CT.. I was not trying to shoot it that way but when I saw the pics it was there on some pics the lips were coming out of the thong... the model was okay with this pic.. so I posted.
[img]![https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120804/16/501dadb8bd421.jpg]() To me this shot doesn't show anything...a negligiable version...thats only wedged wrinkled undergarments.
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Skydancer Photos
Posts: 22196
Santa Cruz, California, US
 Moderator Warning! Caitin Bre wrote:
Imagine a world where penises and vaginas didn't exist so people wouldn't ever have to acknowledge there existence. That would really suck! well not suck, but be horrible.
vaginas and penises rock! if you didn't have one or the other you would just be a boring rock like thing with mud all over it.
I think I will go to a Halloween party as a giant vagina with a penis chasing me and camel in tow. That would be so much fun!
Why are people so afraid of penises and vaginas. I prefer to call then cocks and pussies. because vagina sounds not fun and penis sound lame and limp.
cocks and pussies are so beautiful! I love seeing them. Its exciting.
Is it because people feel so good when they see them that anything that feels good must be bad or wrong?
Who wants to see my pussy? lets celebrate the pussy with some awesome Camel Toes.
Ha ha ha I have to give something for the facebookers to laugh at me about. I have a new reputation to uphold and dammit I mean business.  Terry take me I'm yours! LOL
Bet Dean is scratching his head right now wondering if Ive lost it. LOL Please desist from anymore hijacking. Thanks.
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I M N Photography
Posts: 2350
Boston, Massachusetts, US
R Byron Johnson wrote:
It is an American thing. Not all Americans, but Americans in general do have a negative and childish attitude towards genitals. +1
Half a dozen pages later. The general consensus is that prudent behavior should be dictated by prurient thoughts, even when the photography is less explicit than most "implied nudes" photography.
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
IMnPhoto wrote:
+1
Half a dozen pages later. The general consensus is that prudent behavior should be dictated by prurient thoughts, even when the photography is less explicit than most "implied nudes" photography. Whats a prude camel toe? And what is the general consensus of camel toe behavior?
I think camel toes are like bulges. they shouldn't be treated as anything different.
My play on this is based on the age old "a woman is slutty if she sports a camel toe and a man is a stud if he has a nice bulge" thing. You wont catch me stuffing a sock in my pants though. Its all real.
I believe they are both HOT. Camel Toes are something to be happy about. Although you see some prudes will say they think they are a "bad thing". I think that inside they really like them but are are afraid the camel toe might make them pitch a tent in public and they are overly self conscious about it. They are afraid of there own thoughts. Then there are the ones that don't see beauty in it at all. That is the strange.
I said I will make you blush.
This is very relevant to the entire camel toe thread. The perception of.
There shouldn't be any reason to hide the Camel Toe. as a matter of fact it should be accepted as a normal part of the female form. man made clothes and said we had to wear them not me. I'm a bit rebellious about that. I would be naked all the time if I was allowed to be. If people have a problem with that then it is there problem not mine.
Sure we have certain barbie styles that require a barbie look. But barbie is a fake imaginary thing that doesn't really exist, dreamed up by quacked out conformist control freaks. Forced on to people as this is what woman should be. Its quacked!
So we aren't bad if we have a camel toe and your not bad if you like looking at one or photographing them. And it isn't a bad thing for one to happen to be in a photo that wasn't intended to be. So what!
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sweetcheekscouture
Posts: 465
West Palm Beach, Florida, US
R Byron Johnson wrote:
It is an American thing. Not all Americans, but Americans in general do have a negative and childish attitude towards genitals. I think it is because it literally looks like a camel toe.
I don't think all Americans have a childish attitude about genitalia -- my mother's husband is Venetian and they live half the year in Venice. Venetians are much more conservative about dress and sexuality than most Americans I know.
As for whether or not camel toe is works in an image I would imagine it is subjective and depends on the image and the genre.
I would say in the glamour image that someone posted it probably works for that image. At least the model has a cute face and the image isn't just a gratuitous shot of her crotch.
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R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US
sweetcheekscouture wrote:
I think it is because it literally looks like a camel toe.
I don't think all Americans have a childish attitude about genitalia -- my mother's husband is Venetian and they live half the year in Venice. Venetians are much more conservative about dress and sexuality than most Americans I know.
As for whether or not camel toe is works in an image I would imagine it is subjective and depends on the image and the genre.
I would say in the glamour image that someone posted it probably works for that image. At least the model has a cute face and the image isn't just a gratuitous shot of her crotch. Oh I know not all Americans are and there are certainly many places in the world that are for more conservative than America (throw a dart at the Middle East for example). But in relation to how "free" and open-minded we Americans insist we are, we're actually pretty uptight.
I personally don't like "camel toe" in an image because I find that it's distracting. Strangely enough, camel toe in clothing seems to attract more attention to the genital area than a fully nude shot where the vagina is clearly visible.
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Cindy Lorraine
Posts: 90
Ocala, Florida, US
I would not leave it in the photo lol I wouldn't be offended if a photographer pointed it out to me in a nice way or you could just photoshop it out later if you feel uncomfortable saying something...either way.
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Cindy Lorraine
Posts: 90
Ocala, Florida, US
I wouldn't want it left in the photo if that was your question. I'd want the photographer to point it out so I could fix it or photoshop it out.
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GingerMuse
Posts: 369
STUDIO CITY, California, US
No interest in camel toe; don't like it. If someone asked me to shoot with the intention of camel toe shots I would say no.
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I M N Photography
Posts: 2350
Boston, Massachusetts, US
R Byron Johnson wrote:
Oh I know not all Americans are and there are certainly many places in the world that are for more conservative than America (throw a dart at the Middle East for example). But in relation to how "free" and open-minded we Americans insist we are, we're actually pretty uptight.
I personally don't like "camel toe" in an image because I find that it's distracting. Strangely enough, camel toe in clothing seems to attract more attention to the genital area than a fully nudee shot where the vagina is clearly visible In total agreement, once again.
The struggle between high moral values (in public), and salacious thoughts (in private), is exactly what drives these conversations.
It is a fact that the moment something is deemed inappropriate or "forbidden", SOMEONE will try to monetize it, because it is our nature to make a big deal about minor or even trivial things, and some people are always attracted to "forbidden" things.
Let's be honest. It isn't the "wedgie" factor, as much as it is the arousal (of the audience?) that makes people feel uncomfortable about it.
You KNOW that nothing is visible, therefore it is all in your mind, and you feel odd for feeling that way, yet feeling odd is perfectly OK.
I am sure people felt odd about seeing women's ankles, or watching them walking around wearing pants during the days when people still expected them not to do so.
Some say that they don't have a problem with nudity, yet they feel uptight about a little bit of swimsuit, or even pant camel toe.
Some people think that Nudes (in all forms) are wrong, yet they think that a bit of body paint makes everything OK, when everything is perfectly identifiable.
It isn't that "Camel Toe" is new. It's just that we Americans tend to try to impose rules of pulchritude to the rest of the world, and fail to realize that the rest of the world does NOT have issues with a lot of those same things.
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
Just one of the quick shots after one of my shoots last week. As I promised I would post a few. Its the only one I have written permissions to post as of yet more coming soon. No edit on my end so its kinda in the rough. My Proud Camel Toe In swim suit. https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/34344230
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Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
I think camel toes are like bulges. they shouldn't be treated as anything different.
My play on this is based on the age old "a woman is slutty if she sports a camel toe and a man is a stud if he has a nice bulge" thing. You wont catch me stuffing a sock in my pants though. Its all real. I think there is another aspect you are failing to recognize here Cailtlin.
Ever see when someone rear is eating their shorts when they walk and their shorts start climbing up their thighs in the back and distorts the fabric? Yeah, natural but not pretty. So I think it is more akin to breasts sliding under their bra and hanging underneath the bra, not that it is a bad thing but, that isn't what they clothing was designed for.
However, if you like that feeling of your breasts riding underneath your bra, then go for it and enjoy it with your labia riding on the outside of your underwear too.
Jen
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Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
Just one of the quick shots after one of my shoots last week. As I promised I would post a few. Its the only one I have written permissions to post as of yet more coming soon. No edit on my end so its kinda in the rough.
My Proud Camel Toe In swim suit.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/34343801 In the red suit?
edit: Kudos for you to make and ode to anatomy.
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