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MB JenB
Posts: 2,883
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


John Jebbia wrote:
To all the men in this thread who don't like the camel toe, I'll be stopping by later to pick up your Man Cards...

Ha! Hee hee. smile

Oct 30 13 09:54 am  Link  Quote 
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MB JenB
Posts: 2,883
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


That Italian Guy wrote:
If it works with the mood of the image then I might leave it.

http://stefanobrunesci.tumblr.com/image/54857773519 (18+)

But generally speaking, for fashion images it's probably better removed.





Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

I had to squint to notice and then was doubtful. That isn't what I call ct, (sigh, wish it was that slight in my life. edit to add: in my case it is easily avoidable and now after considering all sides and reading Cailtins posts I prefer it hidden and private. I really do not see any reason to leave my anatomy sitting in such a way that it looks like small testicles when all that is required to avoid it is to adjust things. Then again, we never really defined in this thread what the ct really looks like. If the CT is what Stefano is showing then it would be of zero concern to me.

Oct 30 13 09:58 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fred Greissing
Posts: 6,271
Los Angeles, California, US


I'd like to know who the hell came up with such an ugly expression
for this little part of female anatomy. It's got to be an American thing....

Italians have far more affectionate names for it
Oct 30 13 10:05 am  Link  Quote 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 21,037
New York, New York, US


Fred Greissing wrote:
I'd like to know who the hell came up with such an ugly expression
for this little part of female anatomy. It's got to be an American thing....

Italians have far more affectionate names for it

Do tell....

Oct 30 13 10:13 am  Link  Quote 
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Eliza C new portfolio
Posts: 3,344
Monmouth, Wales, United Kingdom


http://elizacook.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/530679_10151333526892054_1626785312_n.jpg
Oct 30 13 11:16 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Caitin Bre
Posts: 1,882
Naperville, Illinois, US


is camel toe considered 18+ on MM?
Oct 30 13 02:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Michelle Genevieve
Posts: 931
Austin, Texas, US


Fred Greissing wrote:
Italians have far more affectionate names for it

Yeah, I'm curious as well!

Oct 30 13 02:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 21,969
New York, New York, US


MyrnaByrna Jen B wrote:
I had to squint to notice and then was doubtful. That isn't what I call ct, (sigh, wish it was that slight in my life.

I am surprised NOBODY in this thread brought up this ode to the toe...

Enjoy:

Bob & Tom: The Camel Toe Song

                                                       big_smile

Oct 30 13 03:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Isis22
Posts: 2,403
Muncie, Indiana, US


udor wrote:

My dear "fleshy sister" (I love that term smile ) I am surprised NOBODY in this thread brought this ode to the toe up...

Enjoy:

Bob & Tom: The Camel Toe Song

                                                       big_smile

I laughed, hard. Thanks, Udor;)

Oct 30 13 03:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Eugenya
Posts: 1,037
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


I didn't even know what "camel toe" was.  I had to look it up on Wikipedia!  (nerd...)

I personally think the little spat between a model who is going to do a shoot that shows off her Camel Toe and another member named "sweet cheeks couture" to be quite amusing, all things considered.  : )
Oct 30 13 03:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Caitin Bre
Posts: 1,882
Naperville, Illinois, US


Eugenya wrote:
I didn't even know what "camel toe" was.  I had to look it up on Wikipedia!  (nerd...)

I personally think the little spat between a model who is going to do a shoot that shows off her Camel Toe and another member named "sweet cheeks couture" to be quite amusing, all things considered.  : )

LOL its great entertainment. I have got a few done and getting a few more this week. Taking a little time to do so after each shoot. Have not had any of the photographers this week say no. It was more of Hell yea! LOL

Oct 30 13 07:39 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Herman Surkis
Posts: 8,416
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada


Caitin Bre wrote:

The conditioning starts when we are very young and continues when we are teens and told its disgusting to experiment with sex as we want to so bad. Hormones and mental confusion ensue and we become fcuked up about the entire subject.

Then it continues into our 1st marriage where are husbands say I want to show you off but I don't want any men looking at you sexually. Then its I want you to give me the best blow job in the world and by the way how did you get so good at it. Then its I want you to fcuk me like a freak. Then its you must have had a lot of experience with this to be that good.
The conditioning has confused everything because its not natural.

You need to interact with a better quality of man.

Oct 31 13 07:11 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Verco Handel
Posts: 293
Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China


6 pages on camel toe!
Oct 31 13 08:17 am  Link  Quote 
Model
MB JenB
Posts: 2,883
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


udor wrote:
I am surprised NOBODY in this thread brought up this ode to the toe...

Enjoy:

Bob & Tom: The Camel Toe Song

                                                       big_smile

Tee hee! Ha. wink

I'm not sure btw when I started to use the term fleshy but, I feel that it is a term of explanation, acceptance and non-judgment. I started working in womens clinic and with patients at a young age. The description just seemed far more natural to me than any other one I could think of to describe when I have to adjust a patients flesh. [edit to clarify, on a seperate note....]Trust that it is far more enjoyable to have the flesh, (ah hem, trust that.)
Jen

Oct 31 13 09:47 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
New Art Photo
Posts: 701
Los Angeles, California, US


udor wrote:

NOOOOOOoooooooooooooo...!!!  sad

Don't mess with the toe... it's a beautiful marvel of nature!!!

+ Seriously.  We don't want women and men looking like Barbie and Ken.

Oct 31 13 10:02 am  Link  Quote 
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udor
Posts: 21,969
New York, New York, US


New Art Photo wrote:

+ Seriously.  We don't want women and men looking like Barbie and Ken.

Especially because the survival of the species could me an immediate problem... wink

Oct 31 13 02:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Caitin Bre
Posts: 1,882
Naperville, Illinois, US


sorry
Oct 31 13 03:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
P I X I E
Posts: 35,267
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


K I C K H A M wrote:
I personally hate it.

Sometimes the clothes don't allow for anything else.

What do I want you to do about it? ANYTHING. Tell me about it. Photoshop it. Hell, crop it. Just pretty please don't leave it in the picture.

+1

Oct 31 13 04:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
udor
Posts: 21,969
New York, New York, US


MyrnaByrna Jen B wrote:

Tee hee! Ha. wink

I'm not sure btw when I started to use the term fleshy but, I feel that it is a term of explanation, acceptance and non-judgment. I started working in womens clinic and with patients at a young age. The description just seemed far more natural to me than any other one I could think of to describe when I have to adjust a patients flesh. [edit to clarify, on a seperate note....]Trust that it is far more enjoyable to have the flesh, (ah hem, trust that.)
Jen

Wonderful attitude, Jen!

Oct 31 13 05:42 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US


I'm always just straight up with a model about such things.  I had one model wearing a string thong and her labia kept falling out and I would just tell her, "Your pussy is showing."  In response she would laugh and "correct" things.  Women aren't as delicate and easily offended as we men think they are.
Oct 31 13 07:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US


Fred Greissing wrote:
I'd like to know who the hell came up with such an ugly expression
for this little part of female anatomy. It's got to be an American thing....

Italians have far more affectionate names for it

It is an American thing.  Not all Americans, but Americans in general do have a negative and childish attitude towards genitals.

Oct 31 13 07:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robby Rockett
Posts: 85
Columbus, Ohio, US


If i ever get it i hope it gets fixed somehow!

Really though i guess it depends on the shot, like miss unbound said.
Oct 31 13 07:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Kirst
Posts: 518
Manchester, New Hampshire, US


i've never had it happen, but some girls are just prone to it, whether it's their shape or what they choose to wear or how they wear things, whatever. I think if it's something that can be fixed by saying "your bikini is riding up a little, please adjust it" then say it. but if you didn't notice it until after the shoot and you have to edit it out, that's on you. fix it.
girls, be conscious of this issue, but dont shoot with a photographer if you don't trust him/her to make you look your best
Oct 31 13 07:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US


Kirst Callahan wrote:
i've never had it happen, but some girls are just prone to it, whether it's their shape or what they choose to wear or how they wear things, whatever. I think if it's something that can be fixed by saying "your bikini is riding up a little, please adjust it" then say it. but if you didn't notice it until after the shoot and you have to edit it out, that's on you. fix it.
girls, be conscious of this issue, but dont shoot with a photographer if you don't trust him/her to make you look your best

It really is just their "shape".  Vaginas are not created equal, as I'm sure you already know.  Some women just have prominent labia.

Oct 31 13 07:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Cherrystone
Posts: 36,208
Columbus, Ohio, US


Caitin Bre wrote:
Who wants to see my pussy? lets celebrate the pussy with some awesome Camel Toes.

WTF? hmm
This ain't SF2, or even OT. superb industry post.


I'll pass, thanks.

Oct 31 13 07:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1,704
San Antonio, Texas, US


This pic has lots of listings because of the CT.. I was not trying to shoot it that way but when I saw the pics it was there on some pics the lips were coming out of the thong... the model was okay with this pic.. so I posted.

[img]http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120804/16/501dadb8bd421.jpg
Oct 31 13 08:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charger Photography
Posts: 1,704
San Antonio, Texas, US


Oct 31 13 08:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MB JenB
Posts: 2,883
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


Charger Photography wrote:
This pic has lots of listings because of the CT.. I was not trying to shoot it that way but when I saw the pics it was there on some pics the lips were coming out of the thong... the model was okay with this pic.. so I posted.

[img]http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120804/16/501dadb8bd421.jpg

To me this shot doesn't show anything...a negligiable version...thats only wedged wrinkled undergarments.

Nov 01 13 04:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Skydancer Photos
Posts: 21,905
Santa Cruz, California, US


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Caitin Bre wrote:

Imagine a world where penises and vaginas didn't exist so people wouldn't ever have to acknowledge there existence.  That would really suck! well not suck, but be horrible.
vaginas and penises rock! if you didn't have one or the other you would just be a boring rock like thing with mud all over it.
I think I will go to a Halloween party as a giant vagina with a penis chasing me and camel in tow. That would be so much fun!

Why are people so afraid of penises and vaginas. I prefer to call then cocks and pussies. because vagina sounds not fun and penis sound lame and limp.
cocks and pussies are so beautiful!  I love seeing them. Its exciting.
Is it because people feel so good when they see them that anything that feels good must be bad or wrong?

Who wants to see my pussy? lets celebrate the pussy with some awesome Camel Toes.

Ha ha ha I have to give something for the facebookers to laugh at me about. I have a new reputation to uphold and dammit I mean business. lol Terry take me I'm yours! LOL

Bet Dean is scratching his head right now wondering if Ive lost it. LOL

Please desist from anymore hijacking. Thanks.

Nov 01 13 07:41 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
I M N Photography
Posts: 2,309
New York, New York, US


R Byron Johnson wrote:
It is an American thing.  Not all Americans, but Americans in general do have a negative and childish attitude towards genitals.

+1

Half a dozen pages later. The general consensus is that prudent behavior should be dictated by prurient thoughts, even when the photography is less explicit than most "implied nudes" photography.

Nov 01 13 11:55 am  Link  Quote 
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 1,882
Naperville, Illinois, US


IMnPhoto wrote:
+1

Half a dozen pages later. The general consensus is that prudent behavior should be dictated by prurient thoughts, even when the photography is less explicit than most "implied nudes" photography.

Whats a prude camel toe? And what is the general consensus of camel toe behavior?

I think camel toes are like bulges. they shouldn't be treated as anything different.
My play on this is based on the age old "a woman is slutty if she sports a camel toe and a man is a stud if he has a nice bulge" thing. You wont catch me stuffing a sock in my pants though. Its all real.
I believe they are both HOT. Camel Toes are something to be happy about. Although you see some prudes will say they think they are a "bad thing". I think that inside they really like them but are are afraid the camel toe might make them pitch a tent in public and they are overly self conscious about it. They are afraid of there own thoughts. Then there are the ones that don't see beauty in it at all. That is the strange.
I said I will make you blush.
This is very relevant to the entire camel toe thread. The perception of.
There shouldn't be any reason to hide the Camel Toe. as a matter of fact it should be accepted as a normal part of the female form. man made clothes and said we had to wear them not me. I'm a bit rebellious about that. I would be naked all the time if I was allowed to be. If people have a problem with that then it is there problem not mine.
Sure we have certain barbie styles that require a barbie look. But barbie is a fake imaginary thing that doesn't really exist, dreamed up by quacked out conformist control freaks. Forced on to people as this is what woman should be. Its quacked!
So we aren't bad if we have a camel toe and your not bad if you like looking at one or photographing them. And it isn't a bad thing for one to happen to be in a photo that wasn't intended to be. So what!

Nov 01 13 05:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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sweetcheekscouture
Posts: 398
West Palm Beach, Florida, US


R Byron Johnson wrote:

It is an American thing.  Not all Americans, but Americans in general do have a negative and childish attitude towards genitals.

I think it is because it literally looks like a camel toe.

I don't think all Americans have a childish attitude about genitalia -- my mother's husband is Venetian and they live half the year in Venice. Venetians are much more conservative about dress and sexuality than most Americans I know.

As for whether or not camel toe is works in an image I would imagine it is subjective and depends on the image and the genre.

I would say in the glamour image that someone posted it probably works for that image. At least the model has a cute face and the image isn't just a gratuitous shot of her crotch.

Nov 01 13 10:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US


sweetcheekscouture wrote:
I think it is because it literally looks like a camel toe.

I don't think all Americans have a childish attitude about genitalia -- my mother's husband is Venetian and they live half the year in Venice. Venetians are much more conservative about dress and sexuality than most Americans I know.

As for whether or not camel toe is works in an image I would imagine it is subjective and depends on the image and the genre.

I would say in the glamour image that someone posted it probably works for that image. At least the model has a cute face and the image isn't just a gratuitous shot of her crotch.

Oh I know not all Americans are and there are certainly many places in the world that are for more conservative than America (throw a dart at the Middle East for example).  But in relation to how "free" and open-minded we Americans insist we are, we're actually pretty uptight.

I personally don't like "camel toe" in an image because I find that it's distracting.  Strangely enough, camel toe in clothing seems to attract more attention to the genital area than a fully nude shot where the vagina is clearly visible.

Nov 02 13 07:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Cindy Lorraine
Posts: 90
Massapequa Park, New York, US


I would not leave it in the photo lol I wouldn't be offended if a photographer pointed it out to me in a nice way or you could just photoshop it out later if you feel uncomfortable saying something...either way.
Nov 02 13 07:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Cindy Lorraine
Posts: 90
Massapequa Park, New York, US


I wouldn't want it left in the photo if that was your question. I'd want the photographer to point it out so I could fix it or photoshop it out.
Nov 02 13 07:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
GingerMuse
Posts: 369
STUDIO CITY, California, US


No interest in camel toe; don't like it. If someone asked me to shoot with the intention of camel toe shots I would say no.
Nov 02 13 09:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
I M N Photography
Posts: 2,309
New York, New York, US


R Byron Johnson wrote:
Oh I know not all Americans are and there are certainly many places in the world that are for more conservative than America (throw a dart at the Middle East for example).  But in relation to how "free" and open-minded we Americans insist we are, we're actually pretty uptight.

I personally don't like "camel toe" in an image because I find that it's distracting.  Strangely enough, camel toe in clothing seems to attract more attention to the genital area than a fully nudee  shot where the vagina is clearly visible

In total agreement, once again.

The struggle between high moral values (in public), and salacious thoughts (in private), is exactly what drives these conversations.

It is a fact that the moment something is deemed inappropriate or "forbidden", SOMEONE will try to monetize it, because it is our nature to make a big deal about minor or even trivial things, and some people are always attracted to "forbidden" things.

Let's be honest. It isn't the "wedgie" factor, as much as it is the arousal (of the audience?) that makes people feel uncomfortable about it.

You KNOW that nothing is visible, therefore it is all in your mind, and you feel odd for feeling that way, yet feeling odd is perfectly OK.

I am sure people felt odd about seeing women's ankles, or watching them walking around wearing pants during the days when people still expected them not to do so.

Some say that they don't have a problem with nudity, yet they feel uptight about a little bit of swimsuit, or even pant camel toe.

Some people think that Nudes (in all forms) are wrong, yet they think that a bit of body paint makes everything OK, when everything is perfectly identifiable.

It isn't that "Camel Toe" is new. It's just that we Americans tend to try to impose rules of pulchritude to the rest of the world, and fail to realize that the rest of the world does NOT have issues with a lot of those same things.

Nov 04 13 11:41 am  Link  Quote 
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 1,882
Naperville, Illinois, US


Just one of the quick shots after one of my shoots last week. As I promised I would post a few. Its the only one I have written permissions to post as of yet more coming soon. No edit on my end so its kinda in the rough.

My Proud Camel Toe In swim suit.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/34344230
Nov 05 13 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MB JenB
Posts: 2,883
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


Caitin Bre wrote:
I think camel toes are like bulges. they shouldn't be treated as anything different.
My play on this is based on the age old "a woman is slutty if she sports a camel toe and a man is a stud if he has a nice bulge" thing. You wont catch me stuffing a sock in my pants though. Its all real.

I think there is another aspect you are failing to recognize here Cailtlin.

Ever see when someone rear is eating their shorts when they walk and their shorts start climbing up their thighs in the back and distorts the fabric? Yeah, natural but not pretty. So I think it is more akin to breasts sliding under their bra and hanging underneath the bra, not that it is a bad thing but, that isn't what they clothing was designed for.

However, if you like that feeling of your breasts riding underneath your bra, then go for it and enjoy it with your labia riding on the outside of your underwear too.
Jen

Nov 05 13 06:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
MB JenB
Posts: 2,883
Clarksville, Tennessee, US


Caitin Bre wrote:
Just one of the quick shots after one of my shoots last week. As I promised I would post a few. Its the only one I have written permissions to post as of yet more coming soon. No edit on my end so its kinda in the rough.

My Proud Camel Toe In swim suit.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/34343801

In the red suit?
edit: Kudos for you to make and ode to anatomy.

Nov 05 13 06:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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