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HV images

Posts: 634

Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom

Is it possible?

May 17 14 08:12 pm Link

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Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9777

Bellingham, Washington, US

You have traveled in time already, true?

Yes, it is not only possible but according to our concept of time it is impossible to NOT travel in time.

May 17 14 08:13 pm Link

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John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

HV images wrote:
Is it possible?

If it were possible someone would be making a profit from it right now.

I love the bit in Timecop when they find someone from the present living in 1920s USA and using that time to buy up stocks and bonds so they can have a horde of money in the future.  I wonder if that would even work the way we think it should?

Also we'd be in chaos if it were available right now with idiot people trying to alter the past or steal stuff from the future.

May 17 14 08:42 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

May 17 14 08:50 pm Link

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Lightcraft Studio

Posts: 13682

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

HV images wrote:
Is it possible?

Not yet.

May 17 14 08:51 pm Link

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Ralph Easy

Posts: 6426

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

HV images wrote:
Is it possible?

You and me. And all of MM. We are doing it right now!

Going back is a different thing though...

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May 17 14 08:52 pm Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

Someone may yet show up for Stephen Hawking's 2009 party.

May 17 14 08:54 pm Link

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John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Someone may yet show up for Stephen Hawking's 2009 party.

But we'd never know.

May 18 14 05:35 am Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Physics doesn't rule it out.


Trap Doors in Time and Space: Teleportation, Time Travel, and Escape from Black Holes
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blogs/phys … ack-holes/

"time travel is actually allowed in Einstein’s theory of general relativity: space times can possess closed timelike curves which you can enter in the future and exit in the past."


New Direction in Physics: Back in Time    (from 1990)
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/08/21/scien … -time.html

"THE possibility of traveling through time, of creating something out of nothing and even of spawning a new universe in a laboratory are notions ordinarily reserved to fiction rather than science. But a rash of articles in some of the most prestigious scientific publications suggests that theoretical physicists have begun to take such outlandish ideas seriously."


Retrocausality Could Send Particles’ Information Back to the Future
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physi … he-future/

"Some physicists believe entangled particles might travel back in time to exercise power over the past."


Arrow of time: Forward and back
http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v5/ … s1376.html

May 18 14 06:10 am Link

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Frank Lewis Photography

Posts: 14492

Winter Park, Florida, US

HV images wrote:
Is it possible?

maybe ask this guy...

https://skfancast.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/ndt.jpg?w=593

May 18 14 07:17 am Link

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CNP Photography

Posts: 2579

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Quantum theory does allow for the possibility of time travel but the theory only applies to things that are very, very small. Like electrons.

Bigger things, like grains of sand or people or galaxies, exist firmly in the realm of Relativity which allows for forward time travel but not backward.

May 18 14 07:29 am Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

HV images wrote:
Is it possible?

I'm traveling through time right now.  I'm older now than when I first read this thread.

May 18 14 08:03 am Link

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Bobby C

Posts: 2696

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

CNP Photography wrote:
Quantum theory does allow for the possibility of time travel but the theory only applies to things that are very, very small. Like electrons.

Bigger things, like grains of sand or people or galaxies, exist firmly in the realm of Relativity which allows for forward time travel but not backward.

^ " The Grandfather Paradox" and the "no-cloning theorem."

May 18 14 08:10 am Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

The rate of "Time" that passes is different in different places.
So yes.

May 18 14 10:29 am Link

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Lovely Day Media

Posts: 5885

Vineland, New Jersey, US

I'm not one who believes it's possible but I do find the subject fascinating on many levels.

I'll admit to having thought about it more than once. Then I saw the movie 12 Monkeys and was out of sorts for months after. I won't watch it again.

May 18 14 10:32 am Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

Posts: 35726

Los Angeles, California, US

AdelaideJohn1967 wrote:
But we'd never know.

Sure we would. If that happened in 2009 it would have made a big splash in the media and we'd all remember it.

Just as if we keep alive the memory of the Time Traveler Party that no one went to it will eventually come to the attention of someone in the future capable of attending the party after all.

May 18 14 10:46 am Link

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JadeDRed

Posts: 5620

London, England, United Kingdom

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
https://creativebits.org/sites/default/files/hawk2.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elah3i_WiFI

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/03/article-0-13E7B274000005DC-52_634x416.jpg

Shit, I better start doing my hair or I'll never make it.

No, wait, I should be fine.

May 18 14 11:00 am Link

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MarkHart

Posts: 89

Beaumont, California, US

This thread made me curious. So I tracked down and read Stephen Hawking's piece on space and time warps. The only part I came close to understanding in his paper was the posted limerick:

There was a young lady of Wight,
Who traveled much faster than light,
She departed one day,
In a relative way,
And arrived on the previous night.

Oh and maybe if we had infinite power it might be possible to time travel. But then I got lost again so I still don't know if you can go into the past. For now, I'll keep time traveling forward into the future on a one-to-one basis.

May 18 14 11:20 am Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

I've been traveling through time for as long as I can remember, just not in a flashy, showing-off kind of way. I even have a fez.

May 18 14 11:25 am Link

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Monad Studios

Posts: 10131

Santa Rosa, California, US

I have traveled from yesterday evening to the present time to bring news that time travel is indeed possible.

May 18 14 11:55 am Link

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Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48041

Hollywood, Florida, US

Nope, it's not possible. Regardless of what point in time we're at, it's always going to be today.

May 18 14 12:06 pm Link

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Monad Studios

Posts: 10131

Santa Rosa, California, US

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:
Nope, it's not possible. Regardless of what point in time we're at, it's always going to be today.

Hey!  A voice from the past!

May 18 14 12:13 pm Link

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Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48041

Hollywood, Florida, US

Monad Studios wrote:

Hey!  A voice from the past!

I got slagged and fragged, then respawned. big_smile

May 18 14 12:25 pm Link

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Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:
Nope, it's not possible. Regardless of what point in time we're at, it's always going to be today.

And when we're tootling along in a car on a freeway, are we moving? We're still in the same car.

Time-travel is not only possible, it's inevitable. We're doing it all the time. But, as someone else already said, it's the going backwards in time that's a bitch.

May 18 14 03:00 pm Link

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Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48041

Hollywood, Florida, US

Orca Bay Images wrote:

And when we're tootling along in a car on a freeway, are we moving? We're still in the same car.

Time-travel is not only possible, it's inevitable. We're doing it all the time. But, as someone else already said, it's the going backwards in time that's a bitch.

Not if you put your car in reverse.

May 18 14 03:05 pm Link

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Caradoc

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Scottsdale, Arizona, US

https://www.rottenecards.com/ecards/Rottenecards_13314535_wqrbg4m6z9.png

May 18 14 03:36 pm Link

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Outoffocus

Posts: 631

Worcester, England, United Kingdom

I don't think so. i reckon the physical world is a cross section of a higher world, and that all the matter there ever was or will be is eternally present. That means the past and the future only exists in a non physical form. You can't go back in time because there is no physical reality to go back to.
The alternative is for matter and energy to be infinite - an entire new universe created every moment on top of the old, rather than the old transmuting into the new.
Or, to put it another way, I don't understand how it could be possible.

May 18 14 04:13 pm Link

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HV images

Posts: 634

Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom

May 18 14 04:55 pm Link

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Two Pears Studio

Posts: 3632

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Yes

May 18 14 05:07 pm Link

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GeM Photographic

Posts: 2456

Racine, Wisconsin, US

Yes it is possible, but only in one direction.

I have a device which I activate to be instantly transported 9 minutes into the future. I usually operate it each morning (especially Mondays).

May 18 14 05:25 pm Link

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John Photography

Posts: 13811

Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

Sure we would. If that happened in 2009 it would have made a big splash in the media and we'd all remember it.

Just as if we keep alive the memory of the Time Traveler Party that no one went to it will eventually come to the attention of someone in the future capable of attending the party after all.

You know in a very weird way that makes sense

EEK!!!!!!!!!!

May 19 14 02:07 am Link

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DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 10604

Los Angeles, California, US

Yes.

Hop on the Train going to Willoughby.

May 19 14 02:15 am Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

Traveling back in time is not possible. Not with the set of natural laws of physics and well established theories that exist.

Time is a strange thing. When you just sit around you travel mostly through time but as your speed increases you start traveling through space and time. At the speed of light you only travel through space. It takes no time (zero seconds) to travel any distance from the point of view of the traveler. Obviously only massless particles can travel at the speed of light. Photons for example.

To travel back in time the time of travel would have to be a negative number. Which would mean that you would get to your destination before you left. And that is a paradox. Paradox in science means a no go. Traveling back in time would also break the law of entropy, one of the most fundamental laws of nature.   

Obviously we can never say never but with our state of knowledge talking about traveling into the past is pure speculation. And yes, they do speculate even in the respected peer-review scientific publications.

Travel into the future is possible. Sort of. All you need is a really fast space ship. Kiss your family and set off to fly around for a year and half the speed of light.  When you come back you will notice that let's say 5 years had past for people on Earth and you aged only a year. So effectively you traveled 4 years into the future.

May 19 14 07:48 am Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Okay -- here's my sci-fi explanation:

We experience "time" linearly -- 12:34pm is followed by 12:35pm and then 12:36pm and so forth.  Our brains have evolved to think of time this way.

At the same time, at any given moment, there are an infinite number of choices and/or events that happen.  I can flip a coin, and it could come up heads or tails or land on its edge and so forth.  Each outcome can split the universe into separate universes (universes, not "timelines"). 

Therefore, with that observation, it's like we are strapped onto a train facing backwards -- we "know" what's happened in the past, but we can't see ahead into the future.  And given how the universe is dividing into separate universes all the time, that train could take any one of an infinite number of paths.

Meanwhile, I'm not a big believer in the "butterfly effect" where a flap of a butterfly wing in Wisconsin can create a monsoon in Indochina.  Sometimes events just don't become significant at all.  "Time" has momentum.

Now the next phase:  remember the backward facing on the train?  Well, an infinite number of "pasts" can lead to the current present, and there are an infinite number of universes awaiting us in the future.  Infinite past universes; infinite future universes.

Now, what if -- what if there is a person who can perceive the near-by universes?  This is the premise to the science fiction novel I have floating in my head.  Perhaps he can step into the nearby universes as easily as he can step across the room.  To those of us still in "our" universe, he would simply disappear.  Think of a skyscraper.  Sam & Sue are standing the in the NW corner of the middle floor, but suppose Sam climbs the stairs to the next floor up & stands in the NW corner of that higher floor, from Sue's perspective, Sam disappeared.  In my story, Sam would only be able to take what he can carry up the stairs, so there is a limit to how much he can bring with him.

Now, what are these "nearby universes" like?  Some are practically indistinguishable from our current universe, but others might be significantly different.  Some of these universes can be more similar to life in our history.  One of these universes can be similar to life back in the 1800s or 1500s or biblical times or dinosaur times (or when the Nazi won WWII) -- the choices are infinite.

So, in my fantasy, a kind of time travel is possible.

May 19 14 08:51 am Link

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Fotticelli

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Rockville, Maryland, US

Just a couple of keywords for those who want to look into it.

This is called the Many-worlds interpretation and was adapted to resolve certain paradoxes in quantum physics related to wavefunction collapse, and decohesion.

But no, the math of the hypothesis clearly states that those different worlds are inaccessible to us in this world. Just like our world is inaccessible to all those other us-es (whatever the plural of the world "us" is) from those countless other worlds.

May 19 14 09:43 am Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:
Nope, it's not possible. Regardless of what point in time we're at, it's always going to be today.

Well, we'll always be in our present.
But that doesn't mean we can't travel at a different rate than someone else.

Ones persons tomorrow, could be 20 years for someone else.

May 19 14 10:00 am Link

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Solas

Posts: 10390

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Just fly from the west coast to the east...done.

I like this quote from Total Recall about the concept of time, past and present:


Doug Quaid: I want to remember.

Matthias: Why?

Doug Quaid: So I can be myself, be who I was.

Matthias: It is each man's quest to find out who he truly is, but the answer to that lies in the present, not in the past. As it is for all of us.

Doug Quaid: But the past tells us who we've become.

Matthias: The past is a construct of the mind. It blinds us. It fools us into believing it. But the heart wants to live in the present. Look there. You'll find your answer.

May 19 14 10:01 am Link

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Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

Paolo Diavolo wrote:

Well, we'll always be in out present.
But that doesn't mean we can't travel at a different rate than someone else.

Ones persons tomorrow, could be 20 years for someone else.

Travel into the future is possible. We are talking about travel into the past.

From the point of view of the observer time always flows at the same rate. The clock will always tick at the same rate for those observers. This is what Einstein's special theory of relativity is about, among other things.

So whether you are on Earth or on a spaceship traveling half the speed of light tomorrow is always the same length of time away. Only when you come back to earth you realize the time difference.

May 19 14 10:25 am Link

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MainePaintah

Posts: 1892

Saco, Maine, US

Just ten minutes ago, I was just telling my younger self back in 2010 that on May 19 2014 when there is a Model Mayhem Forum question about time-traveling, to make sure that you post that "Time Travel Is Impossible"!   smile

May 19 14 03:04 pm Link

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Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Yes.

But it's a one way trip.

May 19 14 03:18 pm Link