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How much would you pay to shoot me and why? Nude price and non nude price please! Jun 02 14 07:00 pm Link Joint rights and escorts, I am afraid I would not shoot with you at all despite that you have a great face. Jun 02 14 07:09 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: +1 Jun 02 14 07:12 pm Link I would pass regardless of what state of dress you were in Jun 02 14 07:19 pm Link Based on the Bio page alone I would not be interested. Too many negatives starting with " Don't even ask about erotic/fetish, the answer is no!" Then there is the rights and escorts thing. The big Tat under your boobs is a non starter for me too. Jun 02 14 07:22 pm Link The terms of your TFP work is far to severe. And for a nude model to insist on an escort and pay is a big red flag. If its trade, bring an escort, if the pics turn out to be crap its just as much your loss as mine. But if I am paying you and you ruin the pics because you insist on an escort, I will fire you by not hiring you. Simple as that  Jun 02 14 07:37 pm Link RennsportPhotography wrote: +1 Jun 02 14 07:38 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: Based on your Bio, I would probably not hire your: Jun 02 14 07:38 pm Link Based on look and experience: Trade. You have a beautiful face but still appear very new and do not have a good variety of expressions or a good grasp of your complimentary angles. Based on bio: No shoot. Photographers aren't likely to sign away their rightfully owned copyright, and the fact that you make demands makes it seem like you'd have a bad attitude in a work environment. Jun 02 14 07:38 pm Link L2Photography net wrote: Is that better? Honestly I think some of you on here are rude, I'm new to this I'm looking for constructive criticism not scolding. Jun 02 14 07:42 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: Just because it isn't what you want to hear, doesn't mean it's scolding. I have yet to see anything rude. Jun 02 14 07:47 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: They have all given you constructive criticism, not one of them has scolded you. Jun 02 14 07:47 pm Link Bio Demands and limited Portfolio/experience does not equate. It says "I don't trust you and I only did one shoot but hire/pay me anyways". Other than that for what I do, the tattoo is a no go for me, it limits posing, composition and what I can or care to put on film. I would decline, sorry. Jun 02 14 07:49 pm Link B L ZeeBubb wrote: The shared rights were only meant for photos I would not get payed for. (And I was referring to the guy bashing my tattoo about the rudeness) but I am listening and considering! Jun 02 14 07:51 pm Link Yep! Like the lady says on the commercial, "That's not the way any of this works!" Jun 02 14 07:52 pm Link According to your profile you just had your first professional shoot. Since all of the images in your portfolio have the same logo anyone looking at your portfolio is going to assume that all your images are from that shoot. Realistically, you are not going to find many photographers that are going to be willing to pay to work with you when there are so many more experienced models out there that are starving and looking for paid work. Jun 02 14 07:55 pm Link -JAY- wrote: +1 Jun 02 14 07:56 pm Link Having to have an escort will loose you more work that you can imagine. Be smart and state that you will ask for references from new photogs. Jun 02 14 08:10 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: $20-25/hr no matter if you're fully dressed or nude. I don't know why models (and some photographers) think there should be a difference (in a perfect world)). It's the rate in NYC. Jun 02 14 08:13 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: Changes to your bio are a big improvement Jun 02 14 08:39 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: Some people don't find photos with tattoos commercially viable. That just means they aren't your audience, not anything negative. Jun 02 14 08:40 pm Link Random Image wrote: And established photographers... Some of the most inappropriate are the most well-known or agency adored. Jun 02 14 08:41 pm Link K I C K H A M wrote: Jun 02 14 08:53 pm Link I wouldn't pay in any case. Might not even offer you trade. I'm curious... Are you still standing firm on the escort coming along and your getting shared rights to copyright for trade shoots, even though you're no longer mentioning either in your profile? Escorts would likely be a dealbreaker. Shared rights most definitely would be a dealbreaker. The big tattoo under your breasts would greatly reduce my likelihood of working with you. You have a very pretty face, but your range of expression is limited. Your posing is pretty stiff, too. Jun 02 14 09:27 pm Link Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote: Are the changes in the profile truly reflective of the changes in the OP's thinking? I hope so. Jun 02 14 09:28 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: Far be it from me to defend Rennsport, but "that big tat under your boobs is a nonstarter" is hardly rude. Blunt and to-the-point, yes. Rude, No. Jun 02 14 09:38 pm Link Tabbie G wrote: I'm sorry, I would neither trade nor pay you for either. Jun 02 14 09:40 pm Link OP, Just FYI; Photographers not agreeing to shared rights is not us being stingy. It's more of a liability thing incase something happens like mis-use of the image and any unauthorized altering. Consent and legal ownership is considered if an image goes as far as publishing or website commerce and the photographer is the one who is contacted for releases, ID and consent documents from the shoot. So legally by default the responsibility falls on the photographer unless he had agreed to sell and transfer ownership in writing. usage rights are slightly different and limited, but all this is to protect you and your likeness from being exploited as it is for the photographers interest in his/her work. Jun 02 14 11:53 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: I was thinking the same thing! Excellent face. Very poor portfolio. Get some professional beauty, portrait, and fashion work going Jun 03 14 01:44 am Link Tabbie G wrote: Most likely I'd refer you to my rates. Jun 03 14 02:11 am Link Personally, I like your style. The tattoo is unique and your hair is wicked. I have at least two ideas I would consider hiring you for based on those alone at probably $25/$35 an hour. You seem like you have some versatility and you might do well if you're set up with a good photographer. Jun 03 14 03:47 am Link For headshots, portraits, etc. I would trade. (I don't shoot fashion, commercial, etc.) For figure work, I might take a chance and offer art model rates. "Take a chance" because: * The tattoo is cool and all, but it's big and not something I'm really looking for. * I don't see a huge amount of versatility in your portfolio. Jun 03 14 08:42 am Link :)No, based on your avatar. You're beautiful and your height is ok. I personally don't really like the crop of some pics in your current port. Your pictures in your photographer's port. are different and way better. Work with more local photographers and make your port. stronger. Good luck. Jun 03 14 10:07 am Link Sorry, but since I only ever pay for nude work, the huge tattoo would be a major deal killer for me. Jun 03 14 10:25 am Link Since I have come a bit late to this party and have not read your earlier bio, I would shoot trade with you and I have a generous trade policy--15 high-res and retouched shots of your choice from the shoot, with equal rights to your choices. You have a nice smile, good figure (and unlike many, I do like to shoot models with tats), but your posing skills need work. I see basically straight line poses from you, without much variation in poses or faces. Your couch shot (first image) is the only one where you have a more interesting and fluid pose. Once you gain more posing time and have developed your skills, I might start with paying you $25 per hour, but I think this skill level is several months and many shoots down the road. As others have noted, if you can find good photographers in your area willing to trade, do so and learn from them. Or pay some to help you develop your portfolio and skills. Jun 03 14 12:17 pm Link SEI Photos wrote:
Jun 03 14 01:54 pm Link Meanies....this scene reminds me of a baby with some bread walking into a crowd of ducks. This model is new....be nice. I would hire you, I think you are an exquisite beauty. The tattoo is unique, I like it. Here are some thoughts, or tips.... - Escorts....photographers are divided on this. Personally, I don't care. Some photographers REALLY care. There are whole topics dedicated to debating this. In the end, it is YOUR comfort that matters the most, not the photographers, so until you are comfortable and experienced, stick with what feels right for you. - Here's a a summary of "rights"....if you pay a photographer to shoot your idea, you can claim all rights, but get them to sign a paper agreeing to that. If it is a TFP (trade/free) shoot, then you share equal rights. If you are getting paid by a photographer to shoot an concept they have in mind, you have no rights to the photos unless that is part of the agreement in advance. - You are tall and thin and pretty. You could probably use a little more clothed pictures, unless you want to be a nude/art model exclusively. Once you start with nude shots, many MM photographers will only see THAT as your potential, so....definitely do a lot of TF shots clothed. - Nude photos....If it is a TFP, you share rights. If you are paid, you have to ask now and if you can use the photos ahead of time. I prefer to pay nude models, that way I don't have to ask if I am allowed to submit to an art show, etc. - Experience....it may be a LITTLE early to start asking to get paid. You are beautiful, and your portfolio is great so far. But you have to develop the portfolio a bit and get more dynamic photos in there. There are no "show stoppers" in your portfolio, which is probably the fault of your photographer, but from an outside perspective...hard to know. So you have to prove your talent to prove your value, ya know? Models who have 100's of gallery worthy nude art photos charge $100-120/hr, but that is after years of experience and proven worth. They are a sure bet for good photos. You can get there too....but your goal right now shouldn't be to get paid $100/hr....or you will limit yourself. Find and shoot with the best photographers you can, some might pay, some might not. But it is an investment at this point....you have to give a little to get a little. Good Luck! Jun 03 14 02:40 pm Link Eyesso wrote: Oh, for fuck's sake, who's been mean to her? .If it is a TFP, you share rights. If anyone here is doing the OP a disservice, it's you spouting whiteknight misinformation like this. Jun 03 14 02:46 pm Link No thanks Jeff Jun 03 14 03:02 pm Link Eyesso wrote: While I agree that people are being harsh, the bolded section is blatant misinformation. Jun 03 14 03:12 pm Link |
