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Chaperone escort though good intention but weird?
Hello all, Do you have chaperone or escort when going for some shooting project? In translating, it means to protect some person going someplace or accompanying. It seems weird to some. Because it does subtly mean there is some danger with the shooting ie. implying photographer or project person may not be safe? Jun 09 14 12:57 am Link I've never brought a chaperone to any of my shoots!! Firstly, I would feel distracted by their presence during the shoot and secondly they can also distract the photographer.. To me its just the same as bringing someone with you when you go to work! What I do for my own piece of mind, is my 'home work'.. Research on the photographer before agreeing to shoot! Check his photography/networking websites and also check for references from other models.. I also always let my husband know where I will be shooting and always keep my phone with me. I'm not saying its wrong to bring a chaperone, its just not for me. If the photographer doesn't mind you bringing one then I don't see any harm as long as he/she stays quiet and doesn't interfere with the shoot. However, sometimes they may be asked by the photographer to help in holding lighting equipments or other props..! Jun 09 14 01:26 am Link Bianca K wrote: Hear are some recent threads on the subject, for your perusal. Jun 09 14 01:26 am Link Bianca K wrote: There are better ways (if most of the following lines up); Jun 09 14 02:00 am Link If you are worried about photographers you should not model. Jun 09 14 02:39 am Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: The world is not quite as black and white as that! Jun 09 14 03:34 am Link "holding lighting equipment..." Actually, I have these special things called, "light stands," to do that for me.  Jun 09 14 03:54 am Link Aberotica wrote: LOL I meant for example on location holding a light reflector etc.. Jun 09 14 03:59 am Link All - OP is in Korea. Advice which holds good for North America may well not be the same where she lives. Jun 09 14 04:03 am Link One of the biggest problems with a model demanding to have an escort is that you now have three people who must have the same time available and the same desire to make the shoot successful. I've rarely seen an 'escort' who really was invested in making sure the the shoot was a success. I've had models cancel because their escort had sometime more important to do at the last minute. I've had escorts who kept asking when the shoot would finish. I've had escorts who were visibly in a bad mood. I've heard of escorts 'borrowing' objects from the photographer. I had one escort at the two model shoot who made the second model very uncomfortable. I've had shoots, that had an escort where 2 out 3 images showed the model posing for the escort, not the camera. It's amazing to me how easy it is to miss the fact that the model's not really looking into the camera when you take the photo. There's so many things to concentrate on at the last second. I've had 2-3, out of over 100 escorts over the years who were very helpful to me and the model. Edit: Almost forgot.... I've never had a really experienced model or traveling model ask to bring an escort. When they've been traveling with a male, the male always stays totally out of the way during the shoot. Models often state that if the photographer is 'professional', he'll understand the need for an escort, but professional models never seem to need an escort. Jun 09 14 04:52 am Link Bianca K wrote: Yes, and personally, I'd rather skip working with a model who perceives me as a threat in favor of those who do not. Jun 09 14 06:16 am Link Bianca K wrote: Over here in the good ole USA the Best answer I have read is; Jun 09 14 06:44 am Link I never quite understood why someone would need an escort unless their underage. If you feel the photographer is coming off weird, dont do the shoot. A glance at the portfolio usually suffices to know if it's for real or if it's a weirdo.... Jun 09 14 07:14 am Link Virtual Studio wrote: +1 Jun 09 14 07:28 am Link Escorts are a bad idea. Bring another model or a makeup artist, someone that can be part of the shoot is always a better option. Saying that you need someone to protect you may offend the person you might work with. Jun 09 14 07:29 am Link The Sweaty Sock wrote: If she can't get good references she shouldn't shoot with the photographer. Jun 09 14 07:32 am Link Abbitt Photography wrote: I agree. I'd skip that model and go with one that dosn't require an escort. Jun 09 14 08:05 am Link I like escorts that are supportive. I go for the newbies and request they bring someone to the shoot. I shoot in a high homeless area and did get a Nikon snatched a few months ago. There are a lot of transients in my area. The only bad experience was a jealous BF who was against the idea of his GF in front of the camera. Jun 12 14 12:08 pm Link I've worked with three female models, and all three brought escort/chaperones. While it's a bit odd from my perspective (I know that I'm not a creep, and even if I were a creep, I'd be a gay creep so they're really in no imminent danger), I understand that it's always risky to go to a stranger's home/studio, even after doing homework. In all three cases, the escorts were actually quite helpful in getting the models dressed and prepared (and somebody has to tie those corsets). I haven't found them intrusive; I just insist that they stay in the room but on the other side of the backdrop, so they're not participating actively or passively in the shoot. (In one case a male escort wandered into "my" side, but he was just interested in watching a photoshoot, and kept quiet and out of the way, so it was acceptable.) Everyone's happy, and I'm not distracted or interfered-with, and neither is the model. It all comes down to folks working out a solution that meets everyone's needs, or at least is minimally inconvenient to everyone. Jun 12 14 12:17 pm Link EButterfieldPhotography wrote: lol. Everyone knows the right girl can "cure" you, and then watch out! Jun 12 14 12:42 pm Link Marin Photography NYC wrote: My thoughts exactly. Requiring an escort just sets the shoot up to have a bad vibe from the start. It's the thought of needing "protection" that turns me off. Jun 15 14 09:14 am Link I think what ever makes you feel comfortable, ask the photographer if they mind and then go from there but I would never just show up with a chaperone Jun 15 14 04:46 pm Link Marin Photography NYC wrote: This is what I thought, there is no way I would bring anyone that wasnt even part of the industry Jun 15 14 04:48 pm Link I had a model bring her manager/boyfriend. He'd answer e-mails for bookings while she was shooting. She became peeded at both of us for not paying enough attention to her. Hey, pretty girl here!  Usually, the model gets a ride & has someone come to pick her up if she doesn't come alone. Jun 20 14 11:01 pm Link Stooges...an added person who isn't needed, if the model does her basic diligence that she should do in any other aspect of her life. Jun 20 14 11:16 pm Link As a model, I take an escort with me on every shoot. I don't trust anyone. The world isn't a safe place and I learned that the hard way. My escort is always either my fiance or my brother and neither have ever gotten in the way. In fact I perform better when they're around. I feel comfortable enough to get out of my head and just feel the shots. As far as judging whether or not they're legit based on their portfolio and the happiness of the models/quality of photos, thats bull. Anyone can take pictures off the internet and claim them as their own and unless I knew the picture from elsewhere, I wouldn't know any better. My first shoot I ever did with a photographer that wasn't a friend might have turned out horrible if I hadn't had an escort. He kept trying to angle the camera up my skirt and at the end asked if I wanted to do some fetish shots. The theme was "rock"........ I had a guitar to pose with..... Where does fetish fit into that??? I was extremely uncomfortable. Yes I could have walked away but that makes me look flaky as a model. If I can have someone with me who puts me at ease, why risk my reputation? If a photographer has a serious problem with me bringing an escort, it makes me feel like they have bad intentions. As a rape survivor (from someone who claimed to love me and care about me) I don't trust strangers and I don't leave myself vulnerable. End of story. Jun 21 14 12:26 am Link I always have a chaperone on hand whenever I shoot with models. Can't be too careful now can you  Jun 21 14 01:45 am Link I always shoot with an Mua on site for touch ups etc during the shoot. Only ever had maybe two models insist on a chaperone, my track record and references should speak for themselves when it comes to shooting with me. Personally I find additional redundant people a complete waste of space and a distraction for those involved in the shoot. Jun 21 14 02:05 am Link Additionally without trying to sound like a complete asshole if you don't have a track record as a model with a promising portfolio that shows you know what you're doing and you insisted on bringing an escort I'd more than likely pass on you. Jun 21 14 02:18 am Link |
