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Gelsen Aripia

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I would just ask her why she does that.  I think it's really odd behavior on her part.  It's very inconsiderate, no matter how nice she acts otherwise. 

If you were told you would have a private yard, then there's no reason for this to be happening. 

Good email you sent your landlord...

Jun 29 14 04:58 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

MerrillMedia wrote:
True enough, but there are also many situations where a person has committed considerable personal resources into a move and has reasonable expectations as to "quiet enjoyment" of the space that they lease. They also have a right not to have to move again, because something that should not be going on, is going on.

Let's consider this one .. a neighbor coming into the yard at 3pm on a Saturday once "before remembering to ask," is something that a simple conversation could and should resolve. A neighbor that gets away with it a few times and then thinks its OK to have her house guest enter the yard late a night has, at that point, become a problem. That same neighbor is quite likely to have a personality that finds quite a few other unacceptable circumstances to be just ducky.

Another example - I once rented an upstairs apt in a converted house, with the landlord occupying the ground floor level. I worked nights at the time and was awakened at about noon one day, by noise in my kitchen. That noise was the sound of the landlord and a workman installing a fire alarm. When I asked them to leave and asked them why in the world they would enter my apt without prior notice and permission, my landlord rudely "informed" me that it was his property and he could enter any time he wanted to. Frankly, I had been awakened and was annoyed, so I wasn't in a mood to negotiate. That being the case, I informed him (for real) that the law in the state that I lived in at the time was clear - a landlord could not enter a leased space without prior notice, unless a bonafide emergency existed. They left. Immediately.

Tenants do have rights - both practical and legal. That's why tenant-landlord law exists and its why common sense behavior exists, even if some folks don't quite get that.

Of course.

Everyone has rights.

Property owners too.

My only point is that there are some incredibly stupid and self-centered tenants who start throwing mud and legal threats without any clue what they are talking about. It's more like nagging, screeching and threatening to "win" because they have led a pampered and worthless life. Responsibility, fairness and common sense are often foreign concepts to low level tenants. Especially those who turn out to be substance abusers and users of everyone around them.

Some think they can make life so miserable for landlords that they have leverage to get what they want, including free rent for 4-6 months until the Sheriffs come to physically remove them from the premises when the costly eviction process finally grinds to it's conclusion.

If they know what they are doing, in many ways they can. Certainly in California this is true. This is an abuse of our legal system and undercuts what the concept of justice is all about. 

There are good tenants and there are good property owners. It behooves us to find each other smile

Jun 29 14 05:10 pm Link

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Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
There are good tenants and there are good property owners. It behooves us to find each other smile

BINGO!

Jun 29 14 05:26 pm Link

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J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

Um. At my apartment complex, we had issues with people stealing our crates from a laundry room, so a sign by managing was put up that read "Get your own damn crates".

Perhaps you can so something similar... Or more polite.

Jun 29 14 05:27 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Elizabeta Rosandic wrote:
There isn't a common path to the hose, there's a common path that runs alongside the opening from my yard and leads to the street.

If I was the property owner and you asked me for a gate, I would jump at the opportunity and build one for you.

I take security issues very seriously, especially renting to students in a very active college area. In cities and other impacted areas, there is always some element of lunatic, criminal, sexual, alcoholic or drug-fried behavior that I must be vigilant against. The meth addicts are awful. I watch the crime reports and I have google news alerts set up for the areas around my houses. I know when people are robbed, arrested, accosted, beat up, raped, reported as missing, shot at, killed in one way or the other, etc.

Just looking at the Megan's List map of sex offenders living within walking distance of the university is an eye-popper. And all the "sober living" houses being placed by the city in so many neighborhoods. There are three of them now, within a block of where I live that were set up without any notification to neighbors before the city quietly slips them in. Across the street from the back of my property and three houses down is the nearest one. Some drug deranged retard was screaming at his girifriend (she was screaming back), then someone let loose with gunfire and shattered the front picture window of that sober living house, formerly owned as a personal residence by a nice old man who passed away.

I don't know which one did it, but they both vanished before the police arrived.

*eyeroll

My tenants are usually in their young 20's and often unaware that these things are happening around them on a regular basis. 

In my free time, I fix faucet washers, LOL  tongue

Life may be more relaxed in New Mexico than it is here.

San Diego is a beautiful city, but it's still a city. This crap happens here too.

Jun 29 14 05:29 pm Link

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Natalia_Taffarel

Posts: 7665

Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina

Alabaster Crowley wrote:

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Im selling a sense of humor!

It seems there's demand for it smile

Jun 29 14 05:45 pm Link

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Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:

Im selling a sense of humor!

It seems there's demand for it smile

Yeah.

Jun 29 14 05:56 pm Link

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Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

So you just moved in? She's been living there longer than you?

She may honestly just not be aware that it's an issue, it may not have been an issue with the person who lived in your space before you. Maybe that person even offered her the use of the hose and it hasn't occurred to her that you're a new person who is not aware of the "arrangement".

Either way, still a landlord issue.

Jun 29 14 07:45 pm Link

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r T p

Posts: 3511

Los Angeles, California, US

Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
Where are you from? Cuba?

If the garden is not shared she needs to talk to the landlord.

What if she wants to have sex with 5 guys and a horse in her garden? She could expect any person to show up at any time uninvited and without permition?

I don't think so


yes ...


always show up uninvited

but with permission


... and bring whorse

Jun 29 14 11:14 pm Link

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GregWatson

Posts: 754

Mount Airy, North Carolina, US

Tell her to leave beer and rum every time she uses the water.

My next door neighbor is divorced.  I wish she'd come over and grab my hose..

Jun 29 14 11:26 pm Link

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L O C U T U S

Posts: 1746

Bangor, Maine, US

Locutus wrote:

Turn off the water to the outside, faucet. Remove the hose.
Problem solved.

this

Jun 29 14 11:26 pm Link

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J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

r T p wrote:


yes ...


always show up uninvited

but with permission


... and bring whorse

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Jun 30 14 04:02 am Link

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FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 6597

Uniontown, Pennsylvania, US

As a Tenant You have rights, one of those is the right to peaceable enjoyment. (google the term).

Allow the Neighbor to take possession of the 'community' hose.

Buy Your own hose.

If the Neighboring Home does not have an outdoor spigot it is the Landlords responsibility to provide one.

Jun 30 14 04:20 am Link

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Richard Karlsen

Posts: 1813

Gloversville, New York, US

By code just about everywhere there must be an inside shutoff for an outside hose bib.  Simply shut off the water from inside when your not using it!

Anybody questions why, you thought the outside connection was leaking water a bit and you didn't want to be wasting water!  No confrontation, just saving the planet!!!!

Jun 30 14 07:00 am Link

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Lohkee

Posts: 14028

Maricopa, Arizona, US

Richard Karlsen wrote:
By code just about everywhere there must be an inside shutoff for an outside hose bib.

Interesting. I have never seen or heard of such a thing. My house is only five years old.

Jun 30 14 07:19 am Link

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Richard Karlsen

Posts: 1813

Gloversville, New York, US

Lohkee wrote:

Interesting. I have never seen or heard of such a thing. My house is only five years old.

Maybe it is a cold climate thing??  Frost free sillcocks don't always work!

Jun 30 14 08:34 am Link

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Elizabeta Rosandic

Posts: 953

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

So I got a response back from my landlord, here's what he said:

That is the only outdoor faucet for both your house and the small casita (that's my neighbor's house). It should just be (neighbor's name) using the water, and I would hope only at reasonable hours.

He also left me a voice mail last night saying that anything he could do to help he would be happy to do.

I think I read in this thread somewhere that there would be a way to run the hose under my fence into my neighbor's yard and turn it on from there with a second valve, leaving the main spigot on? Does anyone know how to make this happen?

Jun 30 14 10:51 am Link

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Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

You get one of these and put it on the spigot at your house.

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-13-Brass- … B000FJYSHW
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KSWogLdaL._SX425_.jpg

You connect two hoses to that--one for you and one to send toward your neighbor's house.  Put one of these at the end of that one:

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-03V-Garde … 0006U66B6/
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41aoh2e7pLL._SX425_.jpg

Your neighbor can attach a hose to that and use it whenever she wants.  Then you leave your spigot on and the valve going to her house open.

Remember to disconnect everything and put all the hoses away before it freezes.  Expanding ice will break all kinds of stuff.

Jun 30 14 11:11 am Link

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Elizabeta Rosandic

Posts: 953

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

Brian Diaz wrote:
You get one of these and put it on the spigot at your house.

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-13-Brass- … B000FJYSHW
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KSWogLdaL._SX425_.jpg

You connect two hoses to that--one for you and one to send toward your neighbor's house.  Put one of these at the end of that one:

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-03V-Garde … 0006U66B6/
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41aoh2e7pLL._SX425_.jpg

Your neighbor can attach a hose to that and use it whenever she wants.  Then you leave your spigot on and the valve going to her house open.

Remember to disconnect everything and put all the hoses away before it freezes.  Expanding ice will break all kinds of stuff.

Awesome, thank you! I just left my landlord a message asking him about doing this smile

Jun 30 14 11:22 am Link

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GK photo

Posts: 31025

Laguna Beach, California, US

Brian Diaz wrote:
You get one of these and put it on the spigot at your house.

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-13-Brass- … B000FJYSHW
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KSWogLdaL._SX425_.jpg

You connect two hoses to that--one for you and one to send toward your neighbor's house.  Put one of these at the end of that one:

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-03V-Garde … 0006U66B6/
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41aoh2e7pLL._SX425_.jpg

Your neighbor can attach a hose to that and use it whenever she wants.  Then you leave your spigot on and the valve going to her house open.

what a nightmare. so the op would have to have a hose that runs to the casita all the time.

i had a feeling she was going to get the response that she did from the ll.

i'd ask him to have a spigot installed at the other place, but i'm pretty sure what his answer would be.

and who determines what "reasonable hours" are? i mean, if i started hearing water running through my pipes at 6am on a sunday, i'd be pretty pissed.

sorry for this one. sounds like you're screwed, and are going to have to take brian's suggestion. but at least make the ll pay for the connectors, and the additional hose.

Jun 30 14 11:24 am Link

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Elizabeta Rosandic

Posts: 953

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

GK photo wrote:

what a nightmare. so the op would have to have a hose that runs to the casita all the time.

i had a feeling she was going to get the response that she did from the ll.

i'd ask him to have a spigot installed at the other place, but i'm pretty sure what his answer would be.

and who determines what "reasonable hours" are? i mean, if i started hearing water running through my pipes at 6am on a sunday, i'd be pretty pissed.

sorry for this one. sounds like you're screwed, and are going to have to take brian's suggestion. but at least make the ll pay for the connectors, and the additional hose.

I liked Brian's suggestion a lot actually. It's probably the least expensive one and the easiest.

Jun 30 14 11:32 am Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Brian Diaz wrote:
You get one of these and put it on the spigot at your house.

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-13-Brass- … B000FJYSHW
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KSWogLdaL._SX425_.jpg

You connect two hoses to that--one for you and one to send toward your neighbor's house.  Put one of these at the end of that one:

http://www.amazon.com/Gilmour-03V-Garde … 0006U66B6/
https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41aoh2e7pLL._SX425_.jpg

Your neighbor can attach a hose to that and use it whenever she wants.  Then you leave your spigot on and the valve going to her house open.

Remember to disconnect everything and put all the hoses away before it freezes.  Expanding ice will break all kinds of stuff.

Great suggestion, shame no one mentioned it earlier..

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st18987681

Jun 30 14 11:47 am Link

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GK photo

Posts: 31025

Laguna Beach, California, US

Elizabeta Rosandic wrote:
I liked Brian's suggestion a lot actually. It's probably the least expensive one and the easiest.

you're not going to mind a hose running through your yard all the time? if not, then at least get the ll to pay for the extra gear. just ask him nicely, or offer to buy it and have him deduct it from your next month's rent. i'd even ask for a few more bucks off, since you're taking the time do it.

he should do it though, not you.

Jun 30 14 11:49 am Link

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Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

Brian's answer is the ideal one.  I use one of those on my land upstate to run water down the hill to my neighbor who doesn't have a spring of his own.  He checks my place when I'm not there, and I check his when he's not there.  Works out nicely.  Actually, if she's not too much of a busybody, you might want to establish a working friendship with her and ask her to keep an eye on your place the times when you're away.

To help alleviate the problem completely, your landlord might want to simply run a second hose out to the end of the fence and mount a faucet there for community use.
If it were my place, that 's what I'd do.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Jun 30 14 11:51 am Link

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GK photo

Posts: 31025

Laguna Beach, California, US

Rays Fine Art wrote:
Brian's answer is the ideal one.

for the love of pete. please credit dougb with the idea, before he vapor locks. smile

are you learning the power of visual aids, doug? tongue

Jun 30 14 11:57 am Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Rays Fine Art wrote:
Brian's answer is the ideal one.  I use one of those on my land upstate to run water down the hill to my neighbor who doesn't have a spring of his own.  He checks my place when I'm not there, and I check his when he's not there.  Works out nicely.  Actually, if she's not too much of a busybody, you might want to establish a working friendship with her and ask her to keep an eye on your place the times when you're away.

To help alleviate the problem completely, your landlord might want to simply run a second hose out to the end of the fence and mount a faucet there for community use.
If it were my place, that 's what I'd do.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Yes, something like this would be an easy solution on the neighbor's side of the fence..

http://www.amazon.com/Yard-Butler-HCF-3 … t+extender

Brian's examples are excellent basic/simple illustrations of what I was suggesting.

GK photo wrote:
for the love of pete. please credit dougb with the idea, before he vapor locks. smile

are you learning the power of visual aids, doug? tongue

Well, everyone is on this site just for the pictures anyway tongue

Jun 30 14 12:03 pm Link

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Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

"Get off my property!"

ha

http://youtu.be/NjtF7PwqcPw?t=3m22s

Jun 30 14 01:15 pm Link

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Elizabeta Rosandic

Posts: 953

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

DougBPhoto wrote:

Great suggestion, shame no one mentioned it earlier..

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st18987681

I remembered seeing that earlier, which is why I brought it up smile. Original credit goes to you!

Jun 30 14 01:32 pm Link

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Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

Sorry, Doug. 

Willie the Shake had it right, "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."

Jun 30 14 06:12 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Elizabeta Rosandic wrote:
I remembered seeing that earlier, which is why I brought it up smile. Original credit goes to you!

Well, it is so rare that an Admin agrees with something I said...  can't let those moments go by without fanfare!!  LOL  (jk, Brian's cool)


Seriously though, I just hope that this helps you to get it resolved with your landlord, as you should not have the privacy and tranquility of your area be regularly interrupted like that.

You should be able to enjoy the privacy of your yard without unannounced visitors, and hopefully this will be an easy solution.   smile

Jun 30 14 06:23 pm Link

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MerrillMedia

Posts: 8736

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

Is the neighbor's house raised or is it a ground level foundation? If the house is raised, installing an outside connection would be very simple and inexpensive. If it is a ground level foundation, things might be more complicated - it pretty much depends on the location of the main pipe that feeds the house.

PS: Another idea might be rain barrel for watering the garden and lawn. They're easy to make and can often be obtained from a local "green group." If you need some plans to make one or two, I can probably find them for you.

Jun 30 14 07:33 pm Link

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Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

Damn, I didn't mean to steal Doug's thunder there.  tongue

Installing a spigot on the other house would be the best solution for the tenants, but a landlord is more likely to go for a cheaper solution.  The connectors I linked to are relatively expensive.  It wouldn't be hard to find connectors for $5 each, and hoses for $10 each, for a grand total of $30 out of the landlord's pocket.  And it would take 30 minutes to do, depending on how far away the hardware store is.

Cheap, fast, and good enough.  That's almost a perfect solution.

Jun 30 14 09:13 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Fifty One Imaging wrote:
If the Neighboring Home does not have an outdoor spigot it is the Landlords responsibility to provide one.

Why?

Just curious.


Sounds like they already have at least one.

Jun 30 14 09:18 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Elizabeta Rosandic wrote:
I think I read in this thread somewhere that there would be a way to run the hose under my fence into my neighbor's yard and turn it on from there with a second valve, leaving the main spigot on? Does anyone know how to make this happen?

It's very easy, fast and cheap to tap into the pipe below your spigot with a "T" and run a pipe in a shallow narrow trench over to your neighbor's yard. At her end, screw on another spigot.

The owner can use plastic sprinkler pipe, which is almost free. A person who mows lawns can do it.

It's called PVC Sch 40 sprinkler pipe. The pipe that goes under the ground is white. For the pipe that comes up to the spigot, it can be the gray color plastic (more UV resistant) or a piece of regular galvanized metal pipe screwed into a plastic elbow glued to the end of the plastic pipe.

That way there are not hoses permanently laying all over the place.


It's very easy to run the pipe under sidewalks and driveways if necessary. Just put a high pressure nozzle on the end of the pipe and start pushing it under the sidewalk. It will easily water blast it's own way through.

I ran a pipe under a 2 car driveway by this method in just a few minutes. It took less time than drinking a cold beer.

I use one of these. It's almost ridiculously easy.

https://www.lakeshore-automatic.com/images/pic_SN_22.jpg

Jun 30 14 09:28 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

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Portland, Oregon, US

Brian Diaz wrote:
Damn, I didn't mean to steal Doug's thunder there.  tongue

Installing a spigot on the other house would be the best solution for the tenants, but a landlord is more likely to go for a cheaper solution.  The connectors I linked to are relatively expensive.  It wouldn't be hard to find connectors for $5 each, and hoses for $10 each, for a grand total of $30 out of the landlord's pocket.  And it would take 30 minutes to do, depending on how far away the hardware store is.

Cheap, fast, and good enough.  That's almost a perfect solution.

No worries, I actually didn't even see the post before yours, where she was asking about info on what I'd posted.

I had not been back in a while, so it was good the examples were posted to point her in the right direction, that was the most important thing. 

Always good to have a little fun around this place too.  smile

(Even if folks don't always know when you're joking or trying to joke.)

Jun 30 14 09:38 pm Link