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Iktan

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Jul 08 14 03:10 pm Link

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Bobby C

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Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

Host the World Cup, they said.

Jul 08 14 03:30 pm Link

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TomFRohwer

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Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

That was just extra-terrestrial...

Jul 08 14 03:32 pm Link

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--Ishtar--

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Heerlen, Limburg, Netherlands

That was just...painful for the Brazilians. They were absolutely thrashed.

Jul 08 14 03:48 pm Link

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TomFRohwer

Posts: 1601

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

--Ishtar-- wrote:
That was just...painful for the Brazilians. They were absolutely thrashed.

Recurrence on Sunday, 13th of July. Germany vs. Argentina or Germany vs. Netherlands.

;-)

Jul 08 14 03:59 pm Link

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Normad2

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San Francisco, California, US

--Ishtar-- wrote:
That was just...painful for the Brazilians. They were absolutely thrashed.

+1

Jul 08 14 04:00 pm Link

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Virtual Studio

Posts: 6725

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

The most embarrassing semi since I watched Brokeback Mountain with my Dad.

Jul 08 14 04:15 pm Link

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L o n d o n F o g

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London, England, United Kingdom

Utter shambles!

Jul 08 14 04:33 pm Link

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Bobby C

Posts: 2696

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

It's Mick Jagger aka "World Cup Angel of Doom" 's fault.

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A fan holds a placard urging Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger to support Holland in the hope they will go on to lose.

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Jul 08 14 04:45 pm Link

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Iktan

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New York, New York, US

^^ Not only has this match been named the Mineirazo but Mick Jagger jinxing some teams is just epic lol

Jul 08 14 06:03 pm Link

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fsp

Posts: 3656

New York, New York, US

I wonder if this was the biggest loss in world cup semi finals...at yhis level, its a slaughter, little leage might have done better!

For shame!

I really thought brazill was going to take it.

For shame!

Made the history books for sure.

Jul 08 14 06:58 pm Link

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Justin

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Man, whatta blowout. Brazil's back line just looked like someone had mixed stupid juice into their water.

Denver kinda knows how Brazil feels.

Jul 08 14 08:22 pm Link

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Art Silva

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Santa Barbara, California, US

Looks like the Stones will not be playing in Rio anymore... oh well

Jul 08 14 09:59 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Watching the game online... my feed stalled for a few seconds and I had to take a screen shot of this scene... pure luck that it did on that spot...

Then I created my own meme  evilgrin

"The Challenge" / "Die Herausforderung"
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On a serious note... I am concerned about the backlash this loss will have for Brazil... they displaced a few hundred thousand poor people for the stadiums... and ended up losing badly and are out of the game.

I really hope there won't be riots, loss of lives, etc. hmm

Jul 09 14 03:46 am Link

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afplcc-Glamour

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Fairfax, Virginia, US

For anyone who really knows futbol/soccer, this match was a case of two teams meeting where one's major liability weakness was what the other team does best.  Specifically, Germany is not a great team (though a 7-1 vivisection of Brasil in competition in Brasil is a result of historic proportions).  Germany struggles to break down teams when they aren't countering.  Their backline can be beaten wide (at least when Lehm isn't there).  Their benefit from Mertsacker as an organizer but he's a liability in space.  When they push forward in numbers, their backline is exposed through it's lack of pace.  So Germany is not a great team.  But one thing that Germany does better than any team in the world (and has done for at least the past 8 years, maybe the past 12 years) is to counter.  Muller lives for the counter-attack, where he can slip into space and use his intelligence to either finish or create chances for teammates.  Germany has an outstanding midfield...when Oezil is your weakest player and worthy of being benched then you've got a lot of talent at that position.

Meanwhile, Brasil has a lot of individual talent (not that it showed for much of this cup).  Dante (who came in for the suspended Thiago Silva) plays for Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga...he's teammates with a third of the German team and has played against most of them in league play.  No question that Brasil is talented.  But they're not organized.  They can be beaten in transition (i.e.: counter-attack).

Yesterday, a team that is probably the best in the world at transition attacking (i.e.: countering) met a team that is individually talented but very poor at transition defending (basically depending on an individual to make a good play or a fine stop).  Put 3-4 German attackers running at 3-6 Brasilian defenders who have lost their shape and you saw Germans who were just wide open, completely unmarked.  At no point did you see professional fouls by the Brasilians to stop play so they could get organized and regain their shape.  There was no organization in transition by the Brasilians (and that's not something that one individual like a Silva is responsible--it's a team thing b/c in transition you can't guarantee that your CB or organizer or DM is always back in the middle of the field to yell out instructions).   A German attack would start and all the guys in yellow would run to the backline creating tremendous space in the midfield or in front of the defenders for Khadira or Schweinsteiger or someone else to collect the ball, control it, look up, and pull the trigger.

Brasil also chose to play with a high backline (further up the field, though during the game "high backline" might have seemed like a reference to what they were smoking).  Contrast this to the USA-Germany match that ended 1-0 for Germany (with the USA missing a couple of chances at the end to tie it).  The USA who typically plays with high pressure and a higher backline instead retreated down the field.  The USA denied Germany empty space to run in to behind the defenders (Germany is very good off the ball).  The USA midfield (which was mostly pedestrian this WC, Michael Bradley has 3 poor performances, Jermaine Jones was worn down by the 3rd match, Davis contributed little, Bedoya and Zusi ran around a lot and helped out defensively) doesn't come close to the individual talent and skill of Brasil's...yet the USA midfield was far more impressive against Germany than was the Selecao's.  The USA was organized.  In transition the backline retreated to deny space and the midfielders quickly picked up marks.  Ghana gave Germany fits--their players battled Germany in midfield and denied them space and time to exploit counters.  Two different approaches yet both very effective and in great contrast to how Brasil approached the match.

Jul 09 14 04:09 am Link

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Sleepy Weasel

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

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Jul 09 14 11:28 am Link

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Bobby C

Posts: 2696

Bangkok, Bangkok, Thailand

afplcc-Glamour wrote:

Dude, what are you doing shooting beautiful women ? you should go get a job as a football/soccer analyst.
big_smile

Jul 09 14 11:31 am Link

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sospix

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Orlando, Florida, US

Geeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzz, they beat 'em by a touchdown  .  .  .  oh, wrong "football", sorry  .  .  .  wink  They did some score comparisons on ESPN, as to what the difference would have to be in some American sports, I think the NFL was 140-0, the NBA was something like 425-0  .  .  .  that was a pretty good butt whipin'  .  .  . 

SOS

Jul 09 14 11:38 am Link