Forums > Digital Art and Retouching > High End Retouching (Tutorial)

Photographer

Frank Sanders

Posts: 84

Vienna, Wien, Austria

Because it is often asked here, I found a very deep tutorial for High End Retouching on CreativeLive from Pratik Naik. Covers all the basics from a practical point of view.

https://www.creativelive.com/courses/ar … ratik-naik

Jul 13 14 10:10 pm Link

Photographer

Tulack

Posts: 836

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

Basics and deep are opposite things. Don't you think?

Jul 14 14 06:26 pm Link

Photographer

Frank Sanders

Posts: 84

Vienna, Wien, Austria

No, for me the use of healing brush, clone stamp, dodge and burn,  frequency separation,... are basic methods, but they can be explained in depth.

Jul 15 14 12:48 pm Link

Retoucher

Jaalpari

Posts: 77

Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom

another money making projects.

Jul 16 14 05:48 am Link

Photographer

Jakov Markovic

Posts: 1128

Belgrade, Central Serbia, Serbia

Jaalpari wrote:
another money making projects.

One of the top retouchers has dedicated his time to show you the workflow. And he should've done that for free? Why?

Jul 16 14 07:13 am Link

Retoucher

amc888

Posts: 27

San Antonio, Texas, US

It was free when it was broadcasted live, and it was a great course.

Jul 16 14 10:01 am Link

Retoucher

Jaalpari

Posts: 77

Newcastle upon Tyne, England, United Kingdom

Jakov Markovic wrote:

One of the top retouchers has dedicated his time to show you the workflow. And he should've done that for free? Why?

its a project for beginners.

Jul 20 14 05:47 am Link

Photographer

Justin Foto

Posts: 3622

Alberschwende, Vorarlberg, Austria

Jaalpari wrote:

its a project for beginners.

Your point being?

Jul 20 14 11:24 am Link

Retoucher

Daniel Meadows

Posts: 794

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

Jaalpari wrote:
its a project for beginners.

A professional (a very good one) provides something of value and you expect it for free? I don't get it. I'm willing to be blown away by your reasoning but I'm not seeing it right now.

Jul 21 14 04:07 am Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

the entitlement of some posters is incredible lol

Jul 21 14 05:39 am Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

Jaalpari wrote:
its a project for beginners.

So what? isn't his time valuable?

So because it is for beginners he shouldn't get paid for his time?

Jul 21 14 05:39 am Link

Retoucher

pixel dimension ilusion

Posts: 1550

Brussels, Brussels, Belgium

are you getting paid to promote Pratik Naik dvd, cause the link u put is not an tutorial at all

Jul 21 14 05:40 am Link

Retoucher

Isabel Christina Paoli

Posts: 86

Vienna, Wien, Austria

pixel dimension ilusion wrote:
are you getting paid to promote Pratik Naik dvd, cause the link u put is not an tutorial at all

You're wrong... The link he posted is the tutorial, not some DVD... I know it because I've watched it myself when it aired for free.

Jul 21 14 05:55 am Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

pixel dimension ilusion wrote:
are you getting paid to promote Pratik Naik dvd, cause the link u put is not an tutorial at all

It is not even a DVD haha do people even bother to open the link it was a Creative Live special that aired for free those who missed the live show can purchase the course to view online afterwards.

They also do free rebroadcast you just have to watch when are they on.

Jul 21 14 07:10 am Link

Retoucher

Natalia_Taffarel

Posts: 7665

Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina

A-M-P wrote:
the entitlement of some posters is incredible lol

+1

Makes you not want to contribute anymore

Jul 21 14 09:14 am Link

Model

Vanderstorme

Posts: 12

Leiden, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands

Oh my god, I hate how they make you pay for everything...

Jul 22 14 11:17 am Link

Retoucher

Isabel Christina Paoli

Posts: 86

Vienna, Wien, Austria

Vanderstorme wrote:
Oh my god, I hate how they make you pay for everything...

Mhm.. it aired live for free..

Jul 22 14 01:30 pm Link

Photographer

Warren Joyce

Posts: 62

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Vanderstorme wrote:
Oh my god, I hate how they make you pay for everything...

Isabel Christina Paoli wrote:
Mhm.. it aired live for free..

I'm sensing sarcasm.....I could be wrong but it would be the first time.  wink

Jul 22 14 03:52 pm Link

Digital Artist

Nathanfx

Posts: 251

Chelsea, New York, US

I could say allot about how I find creative live to be the cancer of the industry.

But it really boils down to how Adobe has Abandoned the pro user in favor of the masses.  So here the masses are, Lapping it all up.

Jul 23 14 12:32 pm Link

Retoucher

Greg K Retouching

Posts: 407

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

Nathanfx wrote:
I could say allot about how I find creative live to be the cancer of the industry.

I'm curious. Say it.

Jul 23 14 12:53 pm Link

Retoucher

Ledo retouch

Posts: 1184

Lodi, California, US

Nathanfx wrote:
I could say allot about how I find creative live to be the cancer of the industry.

looks like someone got up on the wrong side of their high horse smile

Nathanfx wrote:
But it really boils down to how Adobe has Abandoned the pro user in favor of the masses.  So here the masses are, Lapping it all up.

does it?, is that anyway related to the op

Jul 23 14 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

CJ Standish

Posts: 232

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

The way Creative Live works is they broadcast seminars free in two ways:

1. You can be in the studio audience, or
2. You can watch online free when they are live or rebroadcasting.

They like an online audience because you can message in questions that they take and answer from time to time during the seminar.

They are long seminars that usually last 2-3 days or more. Typically, I don't have such big blocks of time to watch the whole things start to finish so I miss part. Then I try to pick up parts I missed in the rebroadcast. Usually STILL miss some so then is when you feel like buying it for "anytime access" or if you want to watch it again. Plus they add "bonus" material if you purchase.

So that's how they make money. They have some top instructors who would only do the seminar if paid. I don't think you can 'put them down' for not wanting to volunteer a few days' worth of time and instruction for no pay.

I don't see what the gripe is.

Creative Live is owned by Chase Jarvis in Seattle. As far as I've read he does not work for Adobe. They also offer courses on Corel Painter. Not sure about Capture One. They ask the instructors to include something for all levels of users. If a person already knows everything there is to know about everything, then they don't need to watch. I still don't see what the gripe is.

Aug 24 14 03:45 am Link

Photographer

PhotoLoveXO

Posts: 95

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

I found Lara Jade's creative live course to have the most practical advice for high end retouching (just watched it yesterday).  It was mostly about shooting but the retouching parts were excellent.  You would need to know the photoshop basics because she moves fast.  Its tough to buy from creative live since some of the broadcasts just don't provide the value they claim too.

Aug 24 14 04:58 am Link

Photographer

Wilde One

Posts: 2373

Santa Monica, California, US

Not sure if the author can hold his promises, but it seems he's not just going to show the usual techniques, but also the concept to apply them in a good way. I liked his comment on "perfection through imperfection".

It's good to see techniques applied by different advanced professionals, as it give you perspective.

Is there any way to sample this seminar before buying it?

I haven't heard of Creative Live so far - why should this be bad for the industry (as one poster said). There is still enough bad retouching around to feed a lot of retouching seminars.

Aug 25 14 05:35 pm Link

Photographer

barepixels

Posts: 3195

San Diego, California, US

Nathanfx wrote:
I could say allot about how I find creative live to be the cancer of the industry.

harsh words..  cancer.. want to back that up?

Aug 25 14 08:49 pm Link

Retoucher

Daniel Meadows

Posts: 794

Manchester, England, United Kingdom

I work in 'the industry' and I hadn't even heard of Creative Live, so I'm not sure how it's the 'cancer' of anything. Looks like a fairly good service to me, they're clearly picking good writers which is more than can be said of many tutorial sites.

Aug 27 14 03:07 pm Link