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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
Mavis (writer of The 70's Show) has offered to write a script for a live show, entertainment at my Car Show. Question is, how many girls would be willing to volunteer for a chance to work with Mavis? Would there be enough interest to cast, or...
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Designit - Edward Olson
Posts: 1708
West Hollywood, California, US
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Mavis (writer of The 70's Show) has offered to write a script for a live show, entertainment at my Car Show. Question is, how many girls would be willing to volunteer for a chance to work with Mavis? Would there be enough interest to cast, or... Based on available information, I'd wager that would be "zero" to the first question, and "no" to the second.
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Rob Photosby
Posts: 4810
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Try posting a casting call if you really want to find out.
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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
Ya, I'm sure I will post, just thought I'd see if there was any positive input here.
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Leo Howard
Posts: 6850
Phoenix, Arizona, US
I would think that most people being offered an opportunity such as this would probably look up the writers for "That '70s Show" as I did, but I didn't see anyone credited as a writer for the show by the name of "Mavis" maybe I missed it.
But if someone does look up the information and doesn't see the person credited as a writer or contributor, it could cause them to question the validity of your offer.
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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
Leo Howard wrote:
I would think that most people being offered an opportunity such as this would probably look up the writers for "That '70s Show" as I did, but I didn't see anyone credited as a writer for the show by the name of "Mavis" maybe I missed it.
But if someone does look up the information and doesn't see the person credited as a writer or contributor, it could cause them to question the validity of your offer. Looking at the credits, she's pretty close to the top, like 4th I think, listed as Assistant Director for the 120 episodes she wrote.
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L O C U T U S
Posts: 1746
Bangor, Maine, US
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Mavis (writer of The 70's Show) has offered to write a script for a live show, entertainment at my Car Show. Question is, how many girls would be willing to volunteer for a chance to work with Mavis? Would there be enough interest to cast, or... A live show,,,at a car show...
I cannot speak for everyone else who attends car shows.
But when I attend car shows, I go to view the cars, and usually ignore people, etc.
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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
Locutus wrote:
A live show,,,at a car show...
I cannot speak for everyone else who attends car shows.
But when I attend car shows, I go to view the cars, and usually ignore people, etc. Same here, but the whole retired crowd wants entertainment too. So why not take it to the next level.
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DOUGLASFOTOS
Posts: 10604
Los Angeles, California, US
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Looking at the credits, she's pretty close to the top, like 4th I think, listed as Assistant Director for the 120 episodes she wrote. UP at the top you said Mavis was a writer...now she is just the assistant to the assistant director.
I found Mavis...She is not a writer. But Production Assistant and Assistant Director...Fetch me some damn coffee!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2204490/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr94
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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
UP at the top you said Mavis was a writer...now she is just the assistant to the assistant director.
I found Mavis...She is not a writer. But Production Assistant and Assistant Director...Fetch me some damn coffee!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2204490/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr94 Welcome to Hollywood, where everything has to be larger than life. A land where they give Writers titles like Assistant Director. The episodes where she is an Assistants Assistant, translates to Co-Wrote.
I am filming a couple of Pilots for Mavis, been working on them for about a year now. Trust me, I know Mavis well.
n Doug, in all of life, it is about "the who we know", the "networking", and the "teamwork" that grows from those relationships. It is not about trying to belittle people just because they have achieved something that you have not been able to. Let's drop the superlatives n name calling, hey? Your better than that.
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Evan Hiltunen
Posts: 4162
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
I'd think that having written 120 episodes of a very popular tv show, folks would have figured out that whole title thingy. In fact, I've noticed, on many shows, there is a category for writer and it is usually filled with someone's name.
Perhaps Mavis misspoke when telling you her credentials.
Happens all the time ... can't expect to remember all the jobs you've had or who they were for.
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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
So since Stephen King was the Assistant Director of the 1997 TV Series, The Shinning, MonkeyKingMA Wrote The Shinning and not Stephen King, right? Well by your logic anyhow.
Think about it, who better to explain the nuances of a story to the Director than the person who wrote the story, ie assist the Director.
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 20621
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Question is, how many girls would be willing to volunteer for a chance to work with Mavis? Would there be enough interest to cast, or... "Volunteer", as in free / without pay?
none
"Volunteer" with pay?
a few, the higher the pay the more replies
It's just my educated guess. YMMV.
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Jordan Bunniie
Posts: 1755
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
No. You'd have to pay me. And my guess is you will have to pay the talent who does end up working for you.
Unless they get to work directly with her, AND she is willing to put them in front of people who can further their careers, what benefit is there to the models/actors?
A chance to work on something written by someone who worked on a TV show that has been off the air for ages isn't really a sweet compensation package. Especially since this is for a car show performance, where the attendees are there to look at cars, not see a show.
Mavis has not done anything since that show according to IMDB, and doesn't have anything listed as in the works. She may know people, she may have the ability to help someones career, but I am guessing not so much. If I were to take on a "volunteer" project for the bragging rights of saying I got to work with so and so, that person would have to be someone major, who can help my career.
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calistastyles
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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
Jordan, you have experience, so of course you would be unlikely to Volunteer. Volunteering is for those who have nothing to put on a Resume, who just need opportunities to prove themselves, network, etc.
However Mavis is running the show, as I certainly can't do everything myself.
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J Haggerty
Posts: 1315
Augusta, Georgia, US
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Jordan, you have experience, so of course you would be unlikely to Volunteer. Volunteering is for those who have nothing to put on a Resume, who just need opportunities to prove themselves, network, etc.
However Mavis is running the show, as I certainly can't do everything myself. Inexperienced people need to pay bills too. This mindset that because someone lacks experience they should be fine without getting paid to work is not healthy for this industry. They might get paid less than a pro would, but there's minimum wage for a reason. If my first job at a box retail store said, "You'll be working 8 hour shifts, 5 days a week for no pay but you can put our name on your resume" I would have walked away. When a local organization had me photograph an event "for charity" where I was on my feet for 10 hours without pay, I SHOULD HAVE walked away. Possible exposure does not equal to pay.
You're also leaving out a lot of details; are these "volunteers" expected to come in themed wardrobe, have their hair and makeup professionally done and pay for their food while working? How long will they be standing out there doing this?
If Mavis is running the show she needs to be speaking, not you. The person with the power to answer these questions needs to be making these requests.
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jb_
Posts: 17
Pahrump, Nevada, US
Jennifer Haggerty wrote:
Inexperienced people need to pay bills too. This mindset that because someone lacks experience they should be fine without getting paid to work is not healthy for this industry. They might get paid less than a pro would, but there's minimum wage for a reason. If my first job at a box retail store said, "You'll be working 8 hour shifts, 5 days a week for no pay but you can put our name on your resume" I would have walked away. When a local organization had me photograph an event "for charity" where I was on my feet for 10 hours without pay, I SHOULD HAVE walked away. Possible exposure does not equal to pay.
You're also leaving out a lot of details; are these "volunteers" expected to come in themed wardrobe, have their hair and makeup professionally done and pay for their food while working? How long will they be standing out there doing this?
If Mavis is running the show she needs to be speaking, not you. The person with the power to answer these questions needs to be making these requests. You know I see a lot of photographers posting here, n only one Model. N Jenifer I see you talking for them telling me I shouldn't be talking for Mavis... Hmmm...
But I agree, It would be nice if Mavis were here talking about this show. n if Models were here showing some interest she probably would, even though her computer skills are somewhat lacking. However she has little patients for naysayers or quitters. I do have that patients.
Now Mavis did not get where she is, nor did I get where I am without a lot, n I do mean, a lot of personal sacrifice. Life is rarely handed to you on a silver platter, and success even less so. The choices in life are simple, spend you life crying about how unfair everything is, or get up off your lazy derriere n do something about it.
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Paolo D Photography
Posts: 11502
San Francisco, California, US
If you want a real answer put up a casting call and see how many qualified members are interested.
If you want only models to reply, post in the model section.
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Jordan Bunniie wrote:
No. You'd have to pay me. And my guess is you will have to pay the talent who does end up working for you.
Unless they get to work directly with her, AND she is willing to put them in front of people who can further their careers, what benefit is there to the models/actors?
A chance to work on something written by someone who worked on a TV show that has been off the air for ages isn't really a sweet compensation package. Especially since this is for a car show performance, where the attendees are there to look at cars, not see a show.
Mavis has not done anything since that show according to IMDB, and doesn't have anything listed as in the works. She may know people, she may have the ability to help someones career, but I am guessing not so much. If I were to take on a "volunteer" project for the bragging rights of saying I got to work with so and so, that person would have to be someone major, who can help my career. See, that kinda attitude is why you're stuck traveling the world for pay, and other people get to do car show work for nothing!
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Jennifer Haggerty wrote:
Inexperienced people need to pay bills too. This mindset that because someone lacks experience they should be fine without getting paid to work is not healthy for this industry. They might get paid less than a pro would, but there's minimum wage for a reason. If my first job at a box retail store said, "You'll be working 8 hour shifts, 5 days a week for no pay but you can put our name on your resume" I would have walked away. When a local organization had me photograph an event "for charity" where I was on my feet for 10 hours without pay, I SHOULD HAVE walked away. Possible exposure does not equal to pay.
You're also leaving out a lot of details; are these "volunteers" expected to come in themed wardrobe, have their hair and makeup professionally done and pay for their food while working? How long will they be standing out there doing this?
If Mavis is running the show she needs to be speaking, not you. The person with the power to answer these questions needs to be making these requests. NudeAutoMall wrote:
You know I see a lot of photographers posting here, n only one Model. N Jenifer I see you talking for them telling me I shouldn't be talking for Mavis... Hmmm...
But I agree, It would be nice if Mavis were here talking about this show. n if Models were here showing some interest she probably would, even though her computer skills are somewhat lacking. However she has little patients for naysayers or quitters. I do have that patients.
Now Mavis did not get where she is, nor did I get where I am without a lot, n I do mean, a lot of personal sacrifice. Life is rarely handed to you on a silver platter, and success even less so. The choices in life are simple, spend you life crying about how unfair everything is, or get up off your lazy derriere n do something about it. So, you have the "patients" to do promotional work for a "writer" who, in 2014, isn't tech savvy enough to post on a message board?
Just out of curiosity, are YOU a "volunteer"?
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 20621
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
NudeAutoMall wrote:
You know I see a lot of photographers posting here, n only one Model. This in itself should give you an indication of how many models would be interested in your offer.
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Jordan, you have experience, so of course you would be unlikely to Volunteer. Volunteering is for those who have nothing to put on a Resume, who just need opportunities to prove themselves, network, etc. ... or they can get paying gigs on REAL productions as 'background' / extras and quickly build up an impressive roster of movies, TV shows, and ads that are seen all over the world. In the LV area it's really not that hard.
Granted, the pay isn't the greatest, but it will still fill up the gas tank a few times, and you'll usually get a free lunch out of the deal while on set.
The type of gig that you're speaking of... some sort of sketch at a small car show in a remote part of Nevada is almost as relevant as taking part in a middle school Christmas pageant.
If for some reason you still insist that we're wrong, why don't you create that casting call and prove it's value to us?
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Now Mavis did not get where she is, nor did I get where I am without a lot, n I do mean, a lot of personal sacrifice. Ummmm.... dude... you're in Pahrump!
(well, I guess it is better than Beatty)
Art of the nude wrote:
See, that kinda attitude is why you're stuck traveling the world for pay, and other people get to do car show work for nothing! truer words have never been spoken. 
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Jennivere
Posts: 9
Brooklyn, New York, US
NudeAutoMall wrote:
You know I see a lot of photographers posting here, n only one Model. N Jenifer I see you talking for them telling me I shouldn't be talking for Mavis... Hmmm...
But I agree, It would be nice if Mavis were here talking about this show. n if Models were here showing some interest she probably would, even though her computer skills are somewhat lacking. However she has little patients for naysayers or quitters. I do have that patients.
Now Mavis did not get where she is, nor did I get where I am without a lot, n I do mean, a lot of personal sacrifice. Life is rarely handed to you on a silver platter, and success even less so. The choices in life are simple, spend you life crying about how unfair everything is, or get up off your lazy derriere n do something about it. How does this profile change the viewpoint exactly? Remember, several people on here have multiple profiles and you could very well be talking to amateur/pro models alike while they're on a photographer's profile.
What life has handed you or Mavis personally matters not to the people you are presenting this volunteer position to. THEY are going through their hardships and struggles currently and probably have been for a long time. Think of the community you're compelling, not your person.
Again and on my model profile. This event calls for minimum wage, it's not worth it to volunteer a day with whatever necessities are required of participants.
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J Haggerty
Posts: 1315
Augusta, Georgia, US
SayCheeZ! wrote:
NudeAutoMall wrote:
You know I see a lot of photographers posting here, n only one Model. This in itself should give you an indication of how many models would be interested in your offer.
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Jordan, you have experience, so of course you would be unlikely to Volunteer. Volunteering is for those who have nothing to put on a Resume, who just need opportunities to prove themselves, network, etc. ... or they can get paying gigs on REAL productions as 'background' / extras and quickly build up an impressive roster of movies, TV shows, and ads that are seen all over the world. In the LV area it's really not that hard.
Granted, the pay isn't the greatest, but it will still fill up the gas tank a few times, and you'll usually get a free lunch out of the deal while on set.
The type of gig that you're speaking of... some sort of sketch at a small car show in a remote part of Nevada is almost as relevant as taking part in a middle school Christmas pageant.
If for some reason you still insist that we're wrong, why don't you create that casting call and prove it's value to us?
NudeAutoMall wrote:
Now Mavis did not get where she is, nor did I get where I am without a lot, n I do mean, a lot of personal sacrifice. Ummmm.... dude... you're in Pahrump!
(well, I guess it is better than Beatty)
truer words have never been spoken. +1
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