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ThirdEyeMakeup

Posts: 316

Los Angeles, California, US

How do you feel about asking for photos from a bridal client or headshot client when they have paid you for your services? I can't help but feel like this bad form..
(Notwithstanding the fact that the photographer owns the rights to the photos).

Aug 25 14 09:38 pm Link

Photographer

LeonardG Photography

Posts: 405

San Francisco, California, US

ThirdEyeMakeup wrote:
How do you feel about asking for photos from a bridal client or headshot client when they have paid you for your services?

Asking politely is always fine. As long as you don't mind a "no".

Demanding is not.

Aug 25 14 09:51 pm Link

Photographer

Pictures of Life

Posts: 792

Spokane, Washington, US

I agree it may seem tacky, you're asking for something of value from someone who just paid you, but they are not losing any value on their purchase.  From another viewpoint, appreciation is a personal perception, and at times is strongly influenced by others. Susie likes her dress more cause Katie says it looks great.  I've seen people who were really happy with so-so photography because the photographer acted all excited about how great the images were.  Essentially they were selling the product after the purchase. It seems silly to me, but it really works for some.
     If you like your work so much that you want a picture of it, then hey, it must be really good, better than your norm, so your client is getting a super deal.  Asking for a picture can be part of building customer satisfaction. A happy customer is good for you. They are more likely to be happy with your work if you act like it is photo worthy. Asking for a photo is you patting yourself on the back for a great job, and your client is the beneficiary. Next week they'll be bragging about how good you did.  Hard to find a downside. Don't be afraid to show that you like your work, and even add a little enthusiasm.  It's good for customer satisfaction.

      I'd bet that a controlled study would show that asking for a photo from your bridal clients would increase your tip and referrals.

Aug 25 14 10:12 pm Link

Hair Stylist

Keila Sone

Posts: 129

Harrison, New Jersey, US

I always ask,but I seldom get them,so I bring my own DSL so can take at least a few after shoots.

Aug 26 14 01:54 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

calistastyles

Posts: 120

Palm Beach, Florida, US

I don't think there is any harm in asking and as for the person taking their own shots I would make sure the client is ok with the usage if you are using them on a website or social media.

BTW Third eye your makeup work is outstanding. I am a fan!

Aug 26 14 02:21 pm Link

Makeup Artist

ArtistryImage

Posts: 3091

Washington, District of Columbia, US

ThirdEyeMakeup wrote:
How do you feel about asking for photos from a bridal client or headshot client when they have paid you for your services? I can't help but feel like this bad form...

Believe you are indeed correct in this inference... A bride should not be bothered with your marketing needs... besides she would have to ask the photographer to provide promotional use licensing for you... that is rather unprofessional...

What to do? Network with all the vendors at the event... remember the floral designer might send you a referral... be absolutely certain to get the photographer's card... you need to touch base with the photographer on this... it's a very wise business move... wedding photographers deal with clients and oft are ask for referrals... let it be you...

ThirdEyeMakeup wrote:
(Notwithstanding the fact that the photographer owns the rights to the photos).

Unless there is a buyout clause in their contract.. this is never an absolute... but you are correct, typically this holds true... Simply request a promotional use only release... but you might have to accept the tog's branding/logo/mark on the imagery...

Best solution? I do bridal test trials... and offer an studio portrait with the aforementioned... this has served me well for quiet some time now, but I'm a commercial photographer thus your expertise behind the lens may be reflected in the quality of imagery...

That said, most of my bridal assignments come in via referrals... enough said...

All the best on your journey...

Aug 29 14 12:06 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Makeup Art by Tamara

Posts: 66

Scottsdale, Arizona, US

In my bridal contract, there's an area the bride signs that says her images may be used for my promotional material. I've never had a bride decline to sign this. When you do makeup for a bride, hopefully you're forming some sort of rapport with her. Makeup can be personal. You're physically in someone's face, in his/her personal bubble, and on one's wedding day you're there to make a woman the most beautiful outwardly that she may be on the biggest day of her life. I don't see what the big deal is to politely ask for an image or two many weeks later for your portfolio. If put the right way: "You looked so gorgeous on your wedding day that I'd be honored to have your photo in my personal portfolio," why would she say "no?" Most wedding photographers give their brides a password that unlocks all of their images on an online gallery. I've been granted these passwords for my own use on many, many occasions. If you feel inhibited to ask for professional photos of your best wedding work, how are you going to market yourself as a wedding MUA?

Aug 31 14 04:55 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Jackie McClay

Posts: 206

Brick, New Jersey, US

Tamara Bickley Makeup wrote:
In my bridal contract, there's an area the bride signs that says her images may be used for my promotional material. I've never had a bride decline to sign this. When you do makeup for a bride, hopefully you're forming some sort of rapport with her. Makeup can be personal. You're physically in someone's face, in his/her personal bubble, and on one's wedding day you're there to make a woman the most beautiful outwardly that she may be on the biggest day of her life. I don't see what the big deal is to politely ask for an image or two many weeks later for your portfolio. If put the right way: "You looked so gorgeous on your wedding day that I'd be honored to have your photo in my personal portfolio," why would she say "no?" Most wedding photographers give their brides a password that unlocks all of their images on an online gallery. I've been granted these passwords for my own use on many, many occasions. If you feel inhibited to ask for professional photos of your best wedding work, how are you going to market yourself as a wedding MUA?

I have this too!!! plus the brides love it when i post them and they get comments on how beautiful they look! lol

Sep 02 14 04:47 pm Link

Photographer

Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

A request is all that is needed. Of course be prepared to pay the print cost, charged by the photographer. The bride can tell you what that is.

Sep 11 14 08:27 pm Link

Photographer

KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Tamara Bickley Makeup wrote:
In my bridal contract, there's an area the bride signs that says her images may be used for my promotional material. I've never had a bride decline to sign this. When you do makeup for a bride, hopefully you're forming some sort of rapport with her. Makeup can be personal. You're physically in someone's face, in his/her personal bubble, and on one's wedding day you're there to make a woman the most beautiful outwardly that she may be on the biggest day of her life. I don't see what the big deal is to politely ask for an image or two many weeks later for your portfolio. If put the right way: "You looked so gorgeous on your wedding day that I'd be honored to have your photo in my personal portfolio," why would she say "no?" Most wedding photographers give their brides a password that unlocks all of their images on an online gallery. I've been granted these passwords for my own use on many, many occasions. If you feel inhibited to ask for professional photos of your best wedding work, how are you going to market yourself as a wedding MUA?

If the photographer owns the copyright you should probably get permission from the photographer before using them.

Sep 11 14 08:41 pm Link

Hair Stylist

rick lesser

Posts: 1116

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

If I think the bride would be an asset to my book and she was easy to work with, sure, I would ask.  Why not?  When I have in the past, they are flattered I would want a picture to show of my work.  The thinking is wow, you work with models, you think I'm pretty enough to be featured along with models?  I'm serious.  They are very flattered.  If your uncomfortable with asking then don't.  After all it was a paying job.  R-

Sep 20 14 11:44 am Link

Makeup Artist

Satsuki MUA

Posts: 31

Washington, District of Columbia, US

I know this thread is old , but I'm doing some research and came across this post.  I have the hardest time getting pics from brides.  Which in turn makes it hard for me to book brides at times IMO.  The last wedding I did the photographer was nice enough to exchange cards with me.  I guess I'm not sure how to go about asking for a professional pic of the bride.  I recently added in my contract that pics may be used for marketing promotional uses.   I have received a few good bridal pics from past brides, one being featured on Washingtonian Bride, so the bride was excited to share with me.  But besides bridal shoots I really have nothing and have been doing bridal work for quite some time.  I asked a past bride for pics and she sends me something someone took with a camera. Smh.  I'm trying not to get frustrated. Thanks in advance.

May 17 15 02:22 pm Link

Photographer

Eye of the World

Posts: 1396

Corvallis, Oregon, US

Even if it is not Vogue quality, it is not that hard to learn a bit about lighting so you can take a nice headset. Women love to be complemented, so when you are done and hand them the mirror, just ask if you could take a couple of shots to use on your book to show prospective clients. If the answer is yes she signs the release and you take a few images. Just discuss this with the photographer first. Some will say no worries, some will say they will give you a shot or two, and some might prefer you don't. Remember, you are marketing yourself to both photographers and brides so communication is key. You may not get photos from every wedding but you will slowly build a portfolio and build a reputation as someone who is easy to work with. The latter can be more valuable for referrals than the images.

May 17 15 06:28 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Satsuki MUA

Posts: 31

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Eye of the World wrote:
Even if it is not Vogue quality, it is not that hard to learn a bit about lighting so you can take a nice headset. Women love to be complemented, so when you are done and hand them the mirror, just ask if you could take a couple of shots to use on your book to show prospective clients. If the answer is yes she signs the release and you take a few images. Just discuss this with the photographer first. Some will say no worries, some will say they will give you a shot or two, and some might prefer you don't. Remember, you are marketing yourself to both photographers and brides so communication is key. You may not get photos from every wedding but you will slowly build a portfolio and build a reputation as someone who is easy to work with. The latter can be more valuable for referrals than the images.

May 17 15 07:10 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Satsuki MUA

Posts: 31

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Eye of the World wrote:
Even if it is not Vogue quality, it is not that hard to learn a bit about lighting so you can take a nice headset. Women love to be complemented, so when you are done and hand them the mirror, just ask if you could take a couple of shots to use on your book to show prospective clients. If the answer is yes she signs the release and you take a few images. Just discuss this with the photographer first. Some will say no worries, some will say they will give you a shot or two, and some might prefer you don't. Remember, you are marketing yourself to both photographers and brides so communication is key. You may not get photos from every wedding but you will slowly build a portfolio and build a reputation as someone who is easy to work with. The latter can be more valuable for referrals than the images.

Thanks!

May 17 15 07:11 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Arielle Williams

Posts: 64

New York, New York, US

As long as you ask politely it shouldn't come off as unprofessional. Brides may even take it as a compliment if you tell them they look so gorgeous that you want them in your portfolio.

May 22 15 05:12 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Yes its bad form I wouldn't do it

May 22 15 06:45 pm Link