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Garry k
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Arguably the two greatest ( White ) Female Popular Singers over the last 30 years in the West
Both have been away a while but have just made triumphant returns
Sinead with a new album our a couple of weeks ago , and Kate has just completed her first comeback concert in London this evening
Do You have a favorite of the two or are you like me and think that they are both pretty awesome
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GK photo
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Garry k wrote:
Arguably the two greatest ( White ) Female Popular Singers over the last 30 years in the West i don't know what y'all are smoking up there, but i could sure use some. especially after i made the mistake of opening the vegan thread. 
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Garry k
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GK photo wrote:
i don't know what y'all are smoking up there, but i could sure use some. especially after i made the mistake of opening the vegan thread. well I am open to hearing who you think is a more significant female artist
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Cherrystone
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GK photo wrote:
i don't know what y'all are smoking up there, but i could sure use some. especially after i made the mistake of opening the vegan thread. I'm with you 100%.
Never cared a lot for Sinead, Bush' voice hurts my head....badly.
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JQuest
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If you're talking pop then you're looking at mass marketed top 40 tunes. In the last 30 years i think that Madonna and Mariah Carey would be the two to argue about followed closely by Christina Aguillara in terms of impact and volume of tunes sold.
Stuff like this is always subjective to one's own taste though. Sinead and Bush are little more than musical foot notes as far as I'm concerned.
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Garry k wrote:
well I am open to hearing who you think is a more significant female artist
Natalie Merchant?
Tori Amos?
and if you wanna go by popularity/record sales
Celine Dion, Madonna, Streisand, Spears, GaGa, Cher (?)
That being said, I was actually just thinking of O'Connor the other day...would be cool to hear some new stuff of hers
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Erin Holmes
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Albuquerque, New Mexico, US
At first glance I longingly read this as "Sinead O'Connor's Bush". I am disappoint.
I think you can tell who my vote is for.
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Cherrystone
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Erin Holmes wrote:
At first glance I longingly read this as "Sinead O'Connor's Bush". I am disappoint.
I think you can tell who my vote is for. LMAO
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Vintagevista
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![https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120712/20/4fff96fbda88f.jpg]() Greatest - ?? Huh? O'Conner has a lovely voice - But greatest is a stretch. ![https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/140819/15/53f3cf40b0915.jpg]() The greatest female voice alive right now is Mary Fahl's. Maybe not in terms of sales - but for pure vocal ability - she wins. A contralto female voice of her power is damned rare. (Annie Lennox and Carley Simon come to mind - but I don't think either of these has/had the sheer power of Fahl's voice) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvP5ZVHRSeA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nprjAwB1ASw
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GK photo
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Cherrystone wrote:
Bush' voice hurts my head....badly. you are not alone, my friend. her voice is the equivalent of vocal nail-on-chalkboard. even peter gabriel had the good sense to hire paula cole to sing with him live, instead of ruining thousands of ears per night, subjecting them to her shrillness.
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Cherrystone
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GK photo wrote:
you are not alone, my friend. her voice is the equivalent of vocal nail-on-chalkboard. even peter gabriel had the good sense to hire paula cole to sing with him live, instead of ruining thousands of ears per night, subjecting them to her shrillness. Maybe Garry is tone deaf? I dunno....or just trolling a bit on a Tuesday night. 
And as far as the suggestion above a couple posts, we can easily put this to rest in terms of one of the greatest female voices alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MclLF473XtA
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Jim Shibley
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I've liked Kate Bush ever since I saw her on SNL about 1979. Glad to hear she's touring again.
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Vintagevista
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Sun City, California, US
Cherrystone wrote:
Maybe Garry is tone deaf? I dunno....or just trolling a bit on a Tuesday night.
And as far as the suggestion above a couple posts, we can easily put this to rest in terms of one of the greatest female voices alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MclLF473XtA Lovely voice - ^^^ - Seriously... Thanks!
I'll look for more of her stuff
But, I've seen Fahl live and it's easy to go all gushy - but, DAMN.... That lady can sing.
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Jerry Nemeth
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GK photo wrote:
i don't know what y'all are smoking up there, but i could sure use some. especially after i made the mistake of opening the vegan thread. +1
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Garry k
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Nemeth , Cherrystone , and GK photo - all in the same camp No Great surprise there folks
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KungPaoChic
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Garry k
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Cherrystone wrote:
Maybe Garry is tone deaf? I dunno....or just trolling a bit on a Tuesday night.
And as far as the suggestion above a couple posts, we can easily put this to rest in terms of one of the greatest female voices alive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MclLF473XtA Umnmm , ,don't look now but your beloved Roger Waters and David Gilmour are obviously fans and collaborators with these ladies ..lol , Could it be that they see something that you can't?( the answer of course is -Yes )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ2tluarzZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hkAYmYvWsY
Go Troll someone elses thread ok ?
But before you do that - reread what I originally posted and you will see that I made no claim that either had the "greatest
voice alive" because being a great singer encompasses more than just the voice
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kickfight
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Portland, Oregon, US
They're both kind of acquired tastes, really, although Kate tends to... um... overreach. I like Kate's songs better, though. Plus she's goofy and she knows it. Sinead tries too hard to be some kind of art chanteuse or something. 
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Jim Ball
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I'll go with 'None of the above.' It's all subjective, and each to his own. This bunch of Pop, Rap and Metal fans will disagree with me,. but... My personal opinion and vote goes for a classical crossover singer who is only 14 years old and just coming into her own. She's been an amazingly emotive powerhouse of a singer for the last four years, but this year has given us a hint at what she will be in a few short years, and what that will be is earthshaking. She already uses up most of the other superlatives. She just completed taping her THIRD PBS Great Performances special and her fourth studio album ("Awakening" - Sony label) releases next month. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Evancho
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DEP E510
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Miramar, Florida, US
Love "Running up That Hill."
Cloudbusting is classic.
I vote for Bush!
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John Photography
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Adelaide, South Australia, Australia
Kate Bush.......
Not only a good singer but way nicer to look at then Sinead O'Connor, at least in her hey day, not sure what she looks like now..... But she still has that fantastic voice.
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Alabaster Crowley
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But did Kate Bush ever rip up a photo of the Pope?
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kickfight
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Alabaster Crowley wrote:
But did Kate Bush ever rip up a photo of the Pope? Nope. But Kate did meet the Queen. She is now Kate Bush CBE (Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire). Fancy!
![https://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/files/2013/04/katebushcbe1.jpg]()
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Jerry Nemeth
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Garry k wrote:
Nemeth , Cherrystone , and GK photo - all in the same camp
No Great surprise there folks
Lame.
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Patrick Walberg
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Garry k wrote:
Nemeth , Cherrystone , and GK photo - all in the same camp
No Great surprise there folks
Oh come on! I write reviews and photograph musicians on a regular basis. I'm joining them in that Kate Bush and Sinead are an acquired taste. I would consider going to their concert if I didn't have to pay for the tickets. I would not buy their music though. That is my opinion. I agree with JQuest, it is subjective;
JQuest wrote:
If you're talking pop then you're looking at mass marketed top 40 tunes. In the last 30 years i think that Madonna and Mariah Carey would be the two to argue about followed closely by Christina Aguilera in terms of impact and volume of tunes sold.
Stuff like this is always subjective to one's own taste though. Sinead and Bush are little more than musical foot notes as far as I'm concerned. So you think those two women you've posted are "Arguably the two greatest ( White ) Female Popular Singers over the last 30 years in the West" ... but in my humble opinion, they are not the best or "greatest" ... not even close. Honestly, I'm sure my taste differs from you, and it's no big deal. I'd pay to hear Cher, Stevie Nicks, Mariah Carey, or Christina Aguilera ... and probably Madonna (more for her show though) My favorite all time female voice to listen to with the headphones on is Karen Carpenter. There will never be another voice quite like hers!
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DHayes Photography
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I've been a fan of Kate Bush since back in 1977 when I saw Kate's video for Wuthering Heights ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1pMMIe4hb4 ) which was included as part of the proof of concept package for Pioneer's Laserdisc video system. For you youngsters, the Laserdisc was an early incarnation of what eventually became the DVD. It featured a 12" disc enclosed in a protective plastic caddy and was roughly double the resolution of VHS tape. Then, in 1978 Kate Bush appeared on Saturday Night Live. I was hooked. I am so happy to see that she is performing again and still marching to the beat of her own drum.
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StromePhoto
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What about the wickedly talented Adele Dazeem?
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Cherrystone
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Garry k wrote:
Nemeth , Cherrystone , and GK photo - all in the same camp
No Great surprise there folks
I don't have the foggiest notion of Nemeth's musical background. I do believe GK has a rather well developed ear & musical taste, and I've got music in my gene pool that goes back God only knows how many generations.
GK nailed it with his metaphor on Bush' voice.
Have you had singing instruction Garry? Every played any musical instruments?
Played in bands or ensembles of some sort? I started in the 2nd grade with woodwinds, went to brass, then on to keyboards & beyond by 5th grade.
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Garry k
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PhillipM
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Natalie Imbruglia over S.O. any day of the week.
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Jules NYC
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Madonna has my vote for best pop star.
Gaga stole all her strokes.
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Cherrystone
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Garry k wrote:
Go Troll someone elses thread ok ? - reread what I originally posted and you will see that I made no claim that either had the "greatest
voice alive" because being a great singer encompasses more than just the voice I did read Garry.....shall I refresh you?
Arguably the two greatest ( White ) Female Popular Singers over the last 30 years in the West
Arguably by whom? David Seville & the Chipmunks?
Sinead was a flash in the pan for the most part, adored by teenagers at the time.
Honestly, I'd never heard of Kate Bush so I had to Google some. Looked up what her greatest hits were, and listened to them, nope have no recall of hearing any of them. Did six weeks worth of touring, and quit in the middle of it, and hasn't been on the road since 1979.
God bless her voice hurt my eardrums, badly. Screeching cats whilst mating come to mind.
So you arguably think these two characters are the two greatest pop singers over the last 30 years?
Allow me to point a few other folks out.
Stevie Nicks, Linda Rondstadt, Pat Benatar, Cher, Celine & Mariah.
Whether anyone likes them or not, I'd bet the farm 90% of the world has heard of them, which I'd also bet the farm the percentage of folks that have heard of your two would come nowhere close to that.
So you pick those two out for what reason? Yeah, the T word arguably comes to mind.
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ethasleftthebuilding
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Key West, Florida, US
When I read the thread title, I thought it might be a celebrity death match or something.
I was going to cheer for Bush.
Like they used to chant during the Spring Break wet bikini contests on South Padre...
"BUSH will WIN, BUSH will WIN, BUSH will WIN"
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Isis22
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Muncie, Indiana, US
I've always been a fan of Sinead O'Connor. I am fond of her new album. BTW it came out in July.
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ontherocks
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they're both awesome. if i had to pick one i'd pick sinead. kate's voice can get a bit screech owl (but a lot of popular women artists are like that now). when i think of kate i think of peter gabriel, one of my all-time favorite male singers.
to me singers like mariah and celine are a complete joke (just have to laugh at them). i'll take sinead and kate any day.
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AndyD10
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As the old saying used to go, one in Kate Bush is worth two in the hand.
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Garry k
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Cherrystone wrote:
I did read Garry.....shall I refresh you?
Arguably the two greatest ( White ) Female Popular Singers over the last 30 years in the West
Arguably by whom? David Seville & the Chipmunks?
Sinead was a flash in the pan for the most part, adored by teenagers at the time.
Honestly, I'd never heard of Kate Bush so I had to Google some. Looked up what her greatest hits were, and listened to them, nope have no recall of hearing any of them. Did six weeks worth of touring, and quit in the middle of it, and hasn't been on the road since 1979.
God bless her voice hurt my eardrums, badly. Screeching cats whilst mating come to mind.
So you arguably think these two characters are the two greatest pop singers over the last 30 years?
Allow me to point a few other folks out.
Stevie Nicks, Linda Rondstadt, Pat Benatar, Cher, Celine & Mariah.
Whether anyone likes them or not, I'd bet the farm 90% of the world has heard of them, which I'd also bet the farm the percentage of folks that have heard of your two would come nowhere close to that.
So you pick those two out for what reason? Yeah, the T word arguably comes to mind. No great surprise that you had not heard of Kate Bush - but what is surprising is how quickly you jump to condemn her and her fans
Of course you could maybe open up your mind to learning more about her - maybe starting with this article from the Guardian Newspaper ( my guess is you have never heard of it either ) entitled " Kate Bush - The Queen of Art Pop who defied her critics "
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/a … n-concerts
but its my guess that you are really not interested in broadening your perspective on music
Much easier to go around calling people "trolls "when they don't share your views
Edit
And You go on to claim that " 90 per cent of the world " has heard of such artists as Pat Benatar ,Linda Ronstadt etc
That would mean of course that these artists were known to the majority of peoples in China , India and the African Continent ( which collectively represent about 50 per cent of the worlds population )
You kill me !
Might be an idea for you to say visit your local high school and check and see if even half the students there know who these faded pop stars are
PS your "farm "must not be so vast that you would gift it to me in such fashion ....lol
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BodyPainter Rich
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Garry k wrote:
Arguably the two greatest ( White ) Female Popular Singers over the last 30 years in the West
Both have been away a while but have just made triumphant returns
Sinead with a new album our a couple of weeks ago , and Kate has just completed her first comeback concert in London this evening
Do You have a favorite of the two or are you like me and think that they are both pretty awesome
? Different moods, both great. But how could you leave out Annie Lennox?
(Edit) wow... looks like EVERYONE left out Annie Lennox. Barbarians.
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Vintagevista
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BodyPainter Rich wrote:
Different moods, both great. But how could you leave out Annie Lennox?
(Edit) wow... looks like EVERYONE left out Annie Lennox. Barbarians. *Ahem*
"A contralto female voice of her power is damned rare. (Annie Lennox and Carley Simon come to mind - but I don't think either of these has/had the sheer power of Fahl's voice)"
Annie Lenox had a lovely voice that seems to have thinned, if recent live performances are a good indicator - in her prime, she was wonderful - and caused one of the most persistent "Earworms" of my life - "No More I Love You's" ran in the background of my brain during a particularly wicked siege of insomnia for about 8 months. Never quite gone - I cannot endure it even today - as it starts that endless loop in the first few seconds of me hearing it..
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