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There is another thread talking about crushes on TV characters where I mentioned Samantha Carter. It prompted me to watch some old SG episodes. Some I had forgotten about where others I either didn't see before or it was so long ago I forgot about them so it was like seeing them again.

On this one episode (I think it's Season 3, it might be 4), Jack gets beamed aboard an Asgard ship that has been overrun by replicators. To kill them, they blow up part of Thor's ship and it breaks up before crashing into the Pacific Ocean.

The replicators can't deal with the salt water for the most part. There is one that did but they kill that one and sink the submarine. We don't hear anything else about them on this planet so it must've killed them, right?

That got me to thinking ... since Thor's ship (while Thor was around) could make anything virtually that was necessary (including food), how come he couldn't make enough salt water to short out the replicators and kill them? I realize it wouldn't kill all of them like the weapon on Dakara did, but for the immediate time being, he could've rid every ship they faced of these replicators by beaming millions of gallons of salt water aboard.

What do you think?

Aug 28 14 09:22 pm Link

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Because URGO had sabotaged the salt water maker...
OK i made that up.. I miss URGO big_smile

Aug 29 14 12:52 am Link

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Erin Holmes

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I think it's because it's a TV show and they need to make things complicated to keep episodes going and make it more exciting. There wouldn't have been much of an episode if they had just thrown salt water on them in the ship big_smile

Aug 29 14 06:51 pm Link

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Erin Holmes wrote:
I think it's because it's a TV show and they need to make things complicated to keep episodes going and make it more exciting. There wouldn't have been much of an episode if they had just thrown salt water on them in the ship big_smile

It might've been interesting to see how they adapted to salt water to make themselves stronger. It might've even been something to help slow their advances a little bit. They didn't even mention salt water as a weapon again.

Another thing I noticed is that at the end of season 1, Apophis comes to destroy Earth but is thwarted by SG-1 with the help of Bra'tac. The US launches some nukes against them that Col Samuels is "sure" will blow their ships out of the sky but they have no effect at all.  In a later episode, when Anubis shows up, they launch similar nukes that, surprisingly, also have no effect.  Interesting.

Aug 29 14 07:59 pm Link

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i miss SG-1. we've seen every episode at least several times. plus the movies. i heard they were planning to remake the original movie.

when we're having a rough day we'll say it's our turn to be daniel jackson and have the crap beaten out of us.

regarding plots, maybe best not to take them too literally.

Aug 29 14 10:02 pm Link

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ontherocks wrote:
i miss SG-1. we've seen every episode at least several times. plus the movies. i heard they were planning to remake the original movie.

when we're having a rough day we'll say it's our turn to be daniel jackson and have the crap beaten out of us.

regarding plots, maybe best not to take them too literally.

Yeah, this. There are so many plot holes or stuff that just doesn't make sense in any show. That being said, I LOVE SG-1. What a fantastic show.

Aug 29 14 10:14 pm Link

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Erin Holmes wrote:
Yeah, this. There are so many plot holes or stuff that just doesn't make sense in any show. That being said, I LOVE SG-1. What a fantastic show.

It's one of my all time favorite shows. I can't think of a single show I like or liked more especially since I got to be an adult. I still like the original Star Trek and a few others (like TNG and Voyager) but SG-1 has elements those shows don't or didn't have that make it seem much more real (not that it's based in reality).

There are times when they do things that bother me (like travel through time) but it's all good.  I thought the original movie was awesome (though it started slowly and I almost shut it off several times). I would've liked to have seen SG-1 continue but I guess all good things must come to an end. Watching the old episodes is pretty exciting, too. smile

Aug 30 14 12:03 am Link

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Lovely Day Media wrote:
There is another thread talking about crushes on TV characters where I mentioned Samantha Carter. It prompted me to watch some old SG episodes. Some I had forgotten about where others I either didn't see before or it was so long ago I forgot about them so it was like seeing them again.

On this one episode (I think it's Season 3, it might be 4), Jack gets beamed aboard an Asgard ship that has been overrun by replicators. To kill them, they blow up part of Thor's ship and it breaks up before crashing into the Pacific Ocean.

The replicators can't deal with the salt water for the most part. There is one that did but they kill that one and sink the submarine. We don't hear anything else about them on this planet so it must've killed them, right?

That got me to thinking ... since Thor's ship (while Thor was around) could make anything virtually that was necessary (including food), how come he couldn't make enough salt water to short out the replicators and kill them? I realize it wouldn't kill all of them like the weapon on Dakara did, but for the immediate time being, he could've rid every ship they faced of these replicators by beaming millions of gallons of salt water aboard.

What do you think?

I have been watching this post for a few days and it only just now occurred to me.

Weren't the replicators on Thor's ship eating the super advanced rust free alien alloys that were likely impervious to corrosive salt water?

When the replicators relocated to the submarine, the raw materials used to replicate were less advanced and more susceptible to corrosion.

Just trying to keep the dream alive.  I haven't seen the episode in question in years.  I am probably forgetting details that make my explanation irrelevant.

On the other hand, if I am wrong we are all in danger.

Aug 30 14 11:10 am Link

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HHPhoto wrote:
I have been watching this post for a few days and it only just now occurred to me.

Weren't the replicators on Thor's ship eating the super advanced rust free alien alloys that were likely impervious to corrosive salt water?

When the replicators relocated to the submarine, the raw materials used to replicate were less advanced and more susceptible to corrosion.

Just trying to keep the dream alive.  I haven't seen the episode in question in years.  I am probably forgetting details that make my explanation irrelevant.

On the other hand, if I am wrong we are all in danger.

When Thor's ship crashed into the Pacific, they didn't say how the 1 replicator survived but there was only 1. The rest apparently got burned up in Thor's ship or shorted out and what not due to the water (and salt specifically). When Jack and Teal'c went aboard the submarine they had to kill that 1 and the rest would die when they sunk the sub.

I'm enjoying the old shows, though.

Aug 30 14 04:13 pm Link

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I'm wondering if you SG-1 fans have a single favorite episode?
For me it's a coin toss between 1969 and A Matter of Time, both season two. :-)

Aug 30 14 06:44 pm Link

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TBL Studio wrote:
I'm wondering if you SG-1 fans have a single favorite episode?
For me it's a coin toss between 1969 and A Matter of Time, both season two. :-)

I do have a single favorite episode. It's in season 6 and called Allegiance.

It's in this episode where the SG teams, Tok'ra and Jaffa set up a camp on some other planet and someone or something keeps killing varying Tok'ra or Jaffa and they each blame the other group.

I think this is one of the best episodes. There are other episodes I like and many others that have scenes I like. 1969 is cool, too. smile

Aug 30 14 07:36 pm Link

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Been a few years since I watched, but there were episodes that I really did like, most of them from the earlier years.

There was a sequence at the start of one show where the camera starts looking at a character from under the glass of a table, then comes up, takes in the conference room and, if I remember right, follows some character up some stairs. I'm not sure that I'm remembering all that correctly, but I remember thinking: That is one lovely, moving, seamless shot.

Aug 30 14 10:20 pm Link

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TBL Studio wrote:
I'm wondering if you SG-1 fans have a single favorite episode?
For me it's a coin toss between 1969 and A Matter of Time, both season two. :-)

#1: URGO ( with Dom Deluise) and a close second is Window of Opportunity

Aug 31 14 03:49 am Link

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Stargate SG-1 was a fun, well done spinoff of the fun movie Stargate with Kurt Russel. The odd "McGiver" remark by Capt. Samantha Carter, early in the first season, we really didn't need the reference did we. I didn't miss an episode (yay for my VCR).

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Sep 01 14 01:00 pm Link

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Great!  There goes any free time I thought I had binge watching old Stargate episodes.  :-)

Sep 01 14 05:09 pm Link

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I was just watching an old episode from season 7, Evolution. This is the episode where they introduce the "super soldier" developed by Anubis. In part 2, Sam and the others discover Anubis has thousands of them. Daniel gets captured in Central America.

It's one of those episodes where they have at least 2 major stories working at the same time. Usually there is a major one and a minor one and possibly more. In this episode, Sam and Teal'c go off to invade Anubis' base. Jack goes to Central America to find and rescue Daniel.

Sep 02 14 08:51 am Link