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So a question to you models...
Even though she is getting paid, it sounds like she is vested in a good outcome....as most of us are in whatever we do. I would suggest letting her know that what you've done comes up short of your original vision, and you think it is best to start over. I would still pay her for her time even though it seems a loss to you. I definitely would not ask her to either refund or credit additional modeling sessions. And as one further comment. If you do start over, don't toss what you have already done. Have a look at it again in a few months with fresh eyes. You just might see things differently. This happens to me all the time with photos I take. I pass on the ones that don't match my vision of what I wanted from the shoot...yet some time later when that vision isn't clouding things, I find I'm very much liking some of the passed over ones. Sep 10 14 03:34 pm Link If she's a professional model, she'll understand that those things happen. Just tell her you're starting all over, and compensate her for the additional time. Sep 10 14 05:38 pm Link Nothing new about that problem. That one has been around for centuries. Sep 11 14 05:33 pm Link Well... She came back... there was a few tense moments, but once she realized that I wasn't asking for any more time and the pay was the same... she let it go and we got back to it. She kept mentioning reasons why it was her fault that the painting wasn't good, but eventually I convinced her... then she got to see the finished painting... (after scraping off the first version) I think she was moved as she divulged she did not see herself that way... (eating disorder) and I think she was touched... Anyway. Thanks Sep 14 14 08:27 pm Link Glad there was a happy ending. You should see some of the failures (me as a model or me as the artist). Sometimes it can't be helped! My art mentor of sorts says that everyone has 10,000 bad drawings in them, a bad one is bound to pop up now and then  likewise, there are some poses I take that I regret after 10 minutes with 10 minutes to go. Happened recently at a drawing group, I think I may have started a new thing there- double exposure poses lol. All I had to do was shift an arm and kept the rest of the pose the same, and almost everyone just drew in an extra arm. Some great things happen from messing up! Sep 14 14 09:36 pm Link a raw muse wrote: I liked what I got out of you when we worked together... Sep 15 14 04:21 pm Link I wouldn't think twice if I was the model and you explained the circumstances . . . as long as you have a good working relationship, I'd think she'd be happy to work with you again. Wanting to give it another go shows that you have high standards, and as others have said, I think the model would appreciate it. Sep 16 14 07:28 pm Link Sid Rodriguez wrote: Yours is the only bathtub I will nod off in and wake myself up with an echoing fart lol Sep 16 14 11:21 pm Link From thee greatest Artist who's ever lived/worked/taught/suffered/Hated himself & his Art for NOT being "Good Enough" ... "True Genius in Art is Eternal Patience. Designing, Throwing Away & Designing Again. Art Must Appear To Have Been Created Effortlessly." ~Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simon~ It's literally the very thing which allows me to sleep every night ... Hella hoping it helps ... ;-) J. Sep 16 14 11:31 pm Link Best bet is truth every time. If the model has seen your previous work and liked it then she will understand that humans make mistakes. Super Humans admit them. Just One Man's Opinion Jack Cutler Sep 17 14 06:28 am Link Honesty is always the best policy. We can have a profession for years and years, but we still make mistakes, we're only human. If you're paying here, it shouldn't matter regardless. Just make sure she knows she isn't the reason you're starting over, because it may kill her confidence. Sep 17 14 01:12 pm Link a raw muse wrote: That painting is hanging in a gallery as I am typing this... I am super proud of that painting... (the fart was just a bonus!) Sep 17 14 06:48 pm Link somedelightfullife wrote: My wife coached me not to mention anything about it not being about her... as she said that as soon as I say it wasn't you... she would stop hearing anything else I had to say and assume I was lying! Ha Ha Sep 17 14 06:51 pm Link Sep 21 14 04:28 pm Link Learn detachment scrap it and start over. Maybe your trying too hard it is just a painting Sep 21 14 04:31 pm Link Sid Rodriguez wrote: This is not the time to change. Especially true if you are not paying for the model's time but that really doesn't matter. Sep 22 14 08:47 am Link I'm sure if you're willing to pay her to do a second sitting she won't mind. She'll want great results from this project that you're both investing your time in and the extra money doesn't hurt! Sep 24 14 10:15 pm Link Sid Rodriguez wrote: depends on what the deal is. Sep 24 14 10:26 pm Link huh? Oct 01 14 08:02 am Link nudeXposed wrote: Sometimes, an artist doesn't get a painting right in the first session. Sometimes they have to start from scratch. If you're not used to seeing people angrily tear up the page they are drawing on or pace back in forth in front of their canvas, you can take it personally as a model and maybe start to internalize the issue. Oct 01 14 08:15 am Link Two Pears Studio wrote: Just be honest! That kind of stuff happens all the time. I've had tons of artists and photographers tell me that things didn't turn out how they wanted for a variety of technical reasons. She won't think any less of you! I feel like it's bound to happen now and then and par for the course. Oct 01 14 10:17 am Link a raw muse wrote: thanks Oct 01 14 05:04 pm Link Sid Rodriguez wrote: Oct 04 14 07:00 pm Link As long as I get paid, I will happily work with you through the whole process again, again and again. Just be honest with the model. Oct 05 14 05:27 pm Link |
