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Lost Cause pictures

Posts: 93

Middletown, Connecticut, US

I know I don't have an ideal set up as far as my PC is concerned.  My screen should be calibrated and I should be using a tablet which I'm simply afraid of to be honest.  After I edit a photo and I'm content,  I email it then save it to my phone.  After I open them they are much darker.  I do a lot of low key photos but then they end up too dark and the subject gets sort of lost. 

Has anyone come across a similar problem?  If so I'd appreciate your experience and solutions.  Thank you.

Oct 21 14 06:03 pm Link

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AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 13053

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Yes mobile screens are not calibrated nor do they have the same range as others.  You should recheck your calibration and if its still accurate you could consider editing lighter, but I find most lower end screens are brighter and washed out.  I would worry less about the dark ones and more about the cheap ones.

Oct 21 14 06:08 pm Link

Photographer

Lost Cause pictures

Posts: 93

Middletown, Connecticut, US

I'm sorry.  Worry more about the cheap what?  Screens?  I have an iPhone 6.  Maybe not calibrated but it's not a cheap screen unless you were referring to something else.

Oct 21 14 06:58 pm Link

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Phantasmal Images

Posts: 690

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Most mobile devices have the screen brightness turned down by default to increase battery life for marketing reasons.

Some mobile devices actually have very good screens by the way. The Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5" for example is over 90% of Adobe RGB color space (138% of sRGB/Rec.709 Gamut). The Samsung Galaxy S5 is 129% of sRGB/Rec.709 Gamut.

http://www.displaymate.com/OLED_Tablet_ShootOut_1.htm

Apple's Retina displays by comparison are only 63% of sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut

Oct 22 14 01:50 am Link

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Robb Mann

Posts: 12327

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Most people will look at your work on uncalibrated displays under an sRGB color space. It's an unavoidable fact. I proof my stuff on my iPad or iPhone after editing to make sure I can live with it. Apple devices are a good standard for sRGB displays.

Oct 22 14 03:11 am Link

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Lost Cause pictures

Posts: 93

Middletown, Connecticut, US

So consensus is to edit to what might look better on a phone or something if that's where it may be viewed more often?

Oct 22 14 05:58 am Link

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Michael DBA Expressions

Posts: 3730

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

Fact: calibrated screens are supposed to be adjusted to display as close as possible to a standard; uncalibrated screens (regardless of cost) are whatever they are, all bets are off.

So you did your work on a calibrated screen; good for you, that's what you are supposed to do. Then on an uncalibrated screen, you saw something else. Why this would surprise you, I have no idea, as it is to be expected. It has nothing whatever to do with the cost of the viewing screen, and everything to do with the fact that it was uncalibrated.

Guess what? It looks too dark on THAT uncalibrated screen, which means absolutely nothing with regard to how it will display on another uncalibrated screen. If it did, there'd be no purpose in calibration in the first place.

If you purposely make lighter versions so that it looks right on one uncalibrated screen, there is no guarantee it will look good on the next uncalibrated screen on which it is displayed. This, frankly, is not an issue upon which you can possibly win.

Oct 22 14 08:10 am Link

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Mercury Images

Posts: 36

New York, New York, US

Datacolor's calibration software allows you to calibrate your iPad and iPhone.

Oct 22 14 08:36 am Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

Mercury Images wrote:
Datacolor's calibration software allows you to calibrate your iPad and iPhone.

but who does that? my guess is less than .0000001 percent of the population.

Oct 22 14 08:48 am Link

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HBA 1

Posts: 112

Kansas City, Kansas, US

Michael DBA Expressions wrote:
Fact: calibrated screens are supposed to be adjusted to display as close as possible to a standard; uncalibrated screens (regardless of cost) are whatever they are, all bets are off.

So you did your work on a calibrated screen; good for you, that's what you are supposed to do. Then on an uncalibrated screen, you saw something else. Why this would surprise you, I have no idea, as it is to be expected. It has nothing whatever to do with the cost of the viewing screen, and everything to do with the fact that it was uncalibrated.

Guess what? It looks too dark on THAT uncalibrated screen, which means absolutely nothing with regard to how it will display on another uncalibrated screen. If it did, there'd be no purpose in calibration in the first place.

If you purposely make lighter versions so that it looks right on one uncalibrated screen, there is no guarantee it will look good on the next uncalibrated screen on which it is displayed. This, frankly, is not an issue upon which you can possibly win.

I believe he said he is NOT using a calibrated monitor.

Oct 22 14 11:32 am Link

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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Mercury Images wrote:
Datacolor's calibration software allows you to calibrate your iPad and iPhone.

Yeah, but on last check, it's kind of worthless because images will only make use of the calibration using the software's special viewing app. Not using normal viewing or third-party apps.

Oct 22 14 11:46 am Link

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Michael DBA Expressions

Posts: 3730

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

Michael DBA Expressions wrote:
Fact: calibrated screens are supposed to be adjusted to display as close as possible to a standard; uncalibrated screens (regardless of cost) are whatever they are, all bets are off.

So you did your work on a calibrated screen; good for you, that's what you are supposed to do. Then on an uncalibrated screen, you saw something else. Why this would surprise you, I have no idea, as it is to be expected. It has nothing whatever to do with the cost of the viewing screen, and everything to do with the fact that it was uncalibrated.

Guess what? It looks too dark on THAT uncalibrated screen, which means absolutely nothing with regard to how it will display on another uncalibrated screen. If it did, there'd be no purpose in calibration in the first place.

If you purposely make lighter versions so that it looks right on one uncalibrated screen, there is no guarantee it will look good on the next uncalibrated screen on which it is displayed. This, frankly, is not an issue upon which you can possibly win.

Hazem Giballi  wrote:
I believe he said he is NOT using a calibrated monitor.

Rereading, you are right. I misread the first time through. My bad.

That said, it makes it all the worse, doesn't it? If you edit in the first place to what looks good on an uncalibrated monitor, you have pretty much zero chance of it looking good ANYWHERE else. Barring, of course, the highly improbable odds another monitor just happens to be set to the same point as yours.

Oct 22 14 02:11 pm Link

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Photography by Riddell

Posts: 866

Hemel Hempstead, England, United Kingdom

I don't get why there is a discussion going on here.

The OP doesn't have a calibrated monitor and therefore neither us nor him has any idea of how things really look with his edited image.

End of story.

Oct 23 14 01:43 pm Link

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Phantasmal Images

Posts: 690

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Even just doing one of the free online calibrations for brightness and contrast will help.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ … r-monitor/

Oct 24 14 01:39 pm Link