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Weldphoto

Posts: 844

Charleston, South Carolina, US

I was just on the Adobe site and saw that I can get Creative Cloud Photography which includes "Photoshop CC,  Lightroom and more.." for $9.99 per month or $119.88 per year prepaid. Is this the full blown version of PS or am I missing something. Its seems much to inexpensive.

Thanks one and all

Nov 12 14 03:02 pm Link

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Newcomb Photography

Posts: 728

Tampa, Florida, US

Weldphoto wrote:
I was just on the Adobe site and saw that I can get Creative Cloud Photography which includes "Photoshop CC,  Lightroom and more.." for $9.99 per month or $119.88 per year prepaid. Is this the full blown version of PS or am I missing something. Its seems much to inexpensive.

Thanks one and all

It would be the full blown versions.  Adobe was finding that too many folks were not upgrading as frequently and to stem the time of lack of upgrades they came out with the SAS model.  Once you purchase you are now suck if you want to continue to use the software and they will slowly increase the price.

Nov 12 14 03:10 pm Link

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Viator Defessus Photos

Posts: 1259

Houston, Texas, US

I hate that they're pairing Lightroom with photshop and not Bridge.

Nov 12 14 03:22 pm Link

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Abbitt Photography

Posts: 13564

Washington, Utah, US

My current installed version has cost much less than that, and I can use it offline.  I just don't see it being that great a deal.

Nov 12 14 03:24 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Viator Defessus Photos wrote:
I hate that they're pairing Lightroom with photshop and not Bridge.

It does not come with bridge too?

Nov 12 14 03:29 pm Link

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Newcomb Photography

Posts: 728

Tampa, Florida, US

Bridge was dropped in CC, its now a stand alone program.

Nov 12 14 03:31 pm Link

Photographer

Weldphoto

Posts: 844

Charleston, South Carolina, US

Abbitt Photography wrote:
My current installed version has cost much less than that, and I can use it offline.  I just don't see it being that great a deal.

I used to buy PS, load the disks, use it, get the upgrade, load them but they cost hundreds of dollars as I remember. I then retired and started using Elements as that did pretty much all I required and it was cheap.

Do I understand that this new version is NOT loaded on the hard drive but is only usable while online? So when off in the woods I can't work on my pictures?

Nov 12 14 03:33 pm Link

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eos3_300

Posts: 1585

Brooklyn, New York, US

Weldphoto wrote:
I used to buy PS, load the disks, use it, get the upgrade, load them but they cost hundreds of dollars as I remember. I then retired and started using Elements as that did pretty much all I required and it was cheap.

Do I understand that this new version is NOT loaded on the hard drive but is only usable while online? So when off in the woods I can't work on my pictures?

You have to connect with the net every 30 days I believe
There are many drawbacks for this deal
There was a very negative reaction when this new cloud crap was announced
Take your time to research this thoroughly
Its very much like a deal with the devil...sounds great until you find out the catch

Nov 12 14 03:38 pm Link

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Newcomb Photography

Posts: 728

Tampa, Florida, US

Weldphoto wrote:

I used to buy PS, load the disks, use it, get the upgrade, load them but they cost hundreds of dollars as I remember. I then retired and started using Elements as that did pretty much all I required and it was cheap.

Do I understand that this new version is NOT loaded on the hard drive but is only usable while online? So when off in the woods I can't work on my pictures?

No, its loaded on your harddrive and you need an internet connection to activate it.  From that point forward you can use it offline, but it will check to see if your account is current once a month and eventually stop working if it finds out that you have not paid your monthly license fee.  I understand there is a grace period, but it will stop if your subscription lapses.

Nov 12 14 03:38 pm Link

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DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Newcomb Photography wrote:
Bridge was dropped in CC, its now a stand alone program.

They keep changing things so often, it is hard to keep track.

Odd that PS came with Bridge, but now with CC it is coming with LR.

Now Bridge is a separate purchase?

What is going on with companies anymore, they really don't give a damn about their customers, it is just money, money, money, and customers can just go screw themselves.

Nov 12 14 03:58 pm Link

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martin b

Posts: 2770

Manila, National Capital Region, Philippines

bridge is my saviour when I edit 1500 pictures from a wedding. Hard to imagine why they would take it out.  Lightroom is ok but much faster to have bridge too.  I use photo shop cs6. master collection.

Nov 12 14 06:02 pm Link

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WCR3

Posts: 1414

Houston, Texas, US

I'm pretty sure Bridge IS part of this deal. I have it, and I'd never had Bridge before I signed up. I did have Lightroom (along with PS Elements), but once I signed up for full Photoshop I got Bridge and updated Lightroom. Best thing to do is read the fine print to see if it's what you want.

I pay $9.99 per month (plus sales tax), which means that to pay for it, twice a month I have to go straight to work instead of stopping at the coffee place. I can deal with that.

Nov 12 14 07:14 pm Link

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Giacomo Cirrincioni

Posts: 22232

Stamford, Connecticut, US

I'm on the Creative Cloud and I certainly have bridge, but I have the full package.  I don't think it comes with the photographer package.

I resisted it for a while, but honestly, I'm super happy with it.  But I always bought the full suite, so for me it makes a lot of sense. 

If you think these subscriptions are high, don't ever think about getting into 3D...

Nov 12 14 07:17 pm Link

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WCR3

Posts: 1414

Houston, Texas, US

It does come with the Photographer Package. I wouldn't have had it otherwise because Lightroom handles the organizational aspects, and ACR is the same as the Lightroom Develop module.

Don't worry. If you get the $9.99/month photographer package, you get Bridge.

Nov 12 14 07:19 pm Link

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Robert Mossack

Posts: 1285

Joplin, Missouri, US

Viator Defessus Photos wrote:
I hate that they're pairing Lightroom with photshop and not Bridge.

You can add Bridge for free. I did. As of this month, I will have completed my first year on the Photography plan, and Adobe has confirmed that my membership will continue at the same rate of $9.99 per month. So, no huge price increase (at least for now) after the first year as everyone had feared.

Nov 12 14 07:54 pm Link

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GER Photography

Posts: 8463

Imperial, California, US

Bugger the Cloud and any of it's uses, PERIOD!!

Nov 12 14 08:05 pm Link

Photographer

eos3_300

Posts: 1585

Brooklyn, New York, US

Survey: Creative Suite users loathe Adobe's subscriptions
http://www.cnet.com/news/survey-creativ … criptions/

Nov 12 14 08:07 pm Link

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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

The fact that you lose ALL use of the software, if you don't pay your utility bill is unconscionable. They change that one aspect and it is likely to be a success.
The poll mentioned above is a powerful message - 93% of Adobe users are looking for other solutions.

For myself, I can't abandon Photoshop currently (but staying on CS5), but I dumped Lightroom and moved to Capture One Pro (which I'm extremely pleased with - better than Lightroom). If I can possibly avoid dealing with Adobe I will.

Nov 12 14 08:15 pm Link

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Guss W

Posts: 10964

Clearwater, Florida, US

eos3_300 wrote:
Survey: Creative Suite users loathe Adobe's subscriptions
http://www.cnet.com/news/survey-creativ … criptions/

Old article.

Here's what's happening:
http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/06/adob … bscribers/

Nov 12 14 08:20 pm Link

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eos3_300

Posts: 1585

Brooklyn, New York, US

GER Photography wrote:
Bugger the Cloud and any of it's uses, PERIOD!!

I bought a CS6 copy while the gettin was good
Its cost me less than a CC subscription would have for the time I have had it
Bollocks to the Cloud

Nov 12 14 08:27 pm Link

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SayCheeZ!

Posts: 20621

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

WCR3 wrote:
Don't worry. If you get the $9.99/month photographer package, you get Bridge.

Yup!
https://creative.adobe.com/products/bridge

Nov 12 14 09:10 pm Link

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mophotoart

Posts: 2118

Wichita, Kansas, US

for the professional graphiic designer or whatever...they are  going for that...only have cs5, and other software that works, and so will my computer when internet down or such...

Nov 12 14 09:22 pm Link

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Weldphoto

Posts: 844

Charleston, South Carolina, US

The replies have been very helpful, though Adobe seems to continue to be high in customer dissatisfaction - not yet COMCAST but headed toward it!

One new question: if I do the $9.99 subscription can I work from both desk-top and lap-top or is it usable on just one?  Needless to say I am very foggy about the whole cloud thing.  Thanks for your patience.

Nov 13 14 07:52 am Link

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Kev Lawson

Posts: 11294

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

My understanding is yes you can still have it activated on 2 machines. Another thing I think I saw was that now you can mix those 2... if you have a desktop PC and say a macbook pro, you can have a copy on each.

Nov 13 14 08:04 am Link

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John Horwitz

Posts: 2920

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

Abbitt Photography wrote:
My current installed version has cost much less than that, and I can use it offline.  I just don't see it being that great a deal.

Rent-To-Rent: The Fleecing of America!

Nov 13 14 08:10 am Link

Photographer

descending chain

Posts: 1368

San Diego, California, US

Guss W wrote:
Old article.

Here's what's happening:
http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/06/adob … bscribers/

The figures show that many are having to accept Adobe's business model, but in no way show that they are happy about it.  Unfortunately, Adobe essentially has a monopoly and are able to get away with screwing their customers.

Nov 13 14 11:15 am Link

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Zave Smith Photography

Posts: 1696

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

It includes Bridge and yes, you can use it on two machines.  While I can understand why people don't like this plan but personally I have no problem.  For $21 bucks a month I have a huge suite of the best professional software for photography, design and video. 

But I earn my living with this.  I wish the other utilities that I need to run my business like insurance, cell phone, internet, etc were only 21 per month.  Believe me I get a lot more value from Adobe than I get with Verizon for example.  Hell, I wish that my car insurance, whom I have never had a claim, was only 21 a month and don't get me started on my studio insurance....

Show me where you get world class software that is has diverse and as useful has the Creative Suite is for only 10 or 50 bucks a month depending on what you need.

Nov 13 14 12:05 pm Link

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John Fisher

Posts: 2165

Miami Beach, Florida, US

The Adobe Cloud thing is a tough call for me as an American business man. I get that Adobe has a lot of mouths to feed, and after 20 some years the creative edge may have run it's course. (A lot of people today don't realize that Photoshop wasn't Adobe's original business, that had to do with type fonts and printer software.)

Here's the issue for me, pre cloud Adobe had to come up with some killer improvement to get people to migrate to the next version of Photoshop.  Over the years they added things like layers, the history brush, and (my altime favorite) liquify. (Although as I recall liquify isn't technically an Adobe creation, didn't they pick it up by purchasing a company called Kai's Power Tools or something like that?)

Whatever, the point is the product had to get better, or people didn't purchase the upgrades and Adobe would lose it's revenue stream. Today, whether it gets better or not, Adobe has a guaranteed income stream, people have jobs, the rent gets paid, and the executives play golf. This might be necessary for the continued existence of Photoshop, and most would agree we are glad the product exists, but it ain't the American way. And what really gets a lot of us (particularly me), is that if you do go to the Cloud, it is my understanding that they kill your existing licenses on previous versions (like my CS 5), and now you can't back out. Not cool.

Hey, if it doesn't work, another company will come around, see the opportunity that exists because the dinosaur got too big, and life moves on. And that is the American way.

John
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John Fisher
700 Euclid Avenue, Suite 110
Miami Beach, Florida 33139
305 534-9322
http://www.johnfisher.com

Nov 13 14 08:24 pm Link

Photographer

trippy lechat

Posts: 209

Tallahassee, Florida, US

GER Photography wrote:
Bugger the Cloud and any of it's uses, PERIOD!!

Nov 13 14 09:23 pm Link

Photographer

trippy lechat

Posts: 209

Tallahassee, Florida, US

trippy lechat wrote:

what he said
twice
cos i messed up the first time

Nov 13 14 09:24 pm Link

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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

I'm guessing from years of experience in the software industry that this CC model will energize hackers to circumvent the Adobe monthly dial in check. Once that's done (can't imagine we won't see that within the next year), pirated copies will proliferate beyond what the volume was in the past.

However, Adobe legal versions will still have an advantage over the pirated versions, in that they don't update functionality regularly (as in Agile development - continuous deployment). But more people will be using cracked Photoshop than previously.

The only way Adobe can combat this will be to change their policy that you lose all use of the software if you stop paying your monthly utility bill. You just won't get the constant flow of upgrades/fixes/improvements.

At that point the hacked versions will lose their newfound advantage.

Nov 13 14 10:31 pm Link

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R.EYE.R

Posts: 3436

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

The cracked CC is widely available and update system is rather established ever since CC's model introduction.

Adobe doesn't care about pirating, since it happily collects license fees from businesses and downloaded copies are like free heroin from the street dealers - once you are hooked you are going to use Photoshop, and if you do it professionally you will pay a license.
If it sounds too much like conspiracy theory - those are the actual words of one of the Adobe managers.

Nov 13 14 11:48 pm Link