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Does Fetish work get a bad rap???
I'm curious as to how others see fetish work. Thoughts anyone? Oct 11 05 07:13 pm Link Darque wrote: I do fetish photography. And as mentioned in previous threads about fetish photography/modeling some do get the wrong impression about it. Especially if the person is new to the industry and has a misconception about what fetish photography/modeling can be. So many think it all has to involve whips and chains and bondage. Oct 11 05 07:19 pm Link It is true it is so much more than that. It jst seem that people shy away from it because it is automatically categorized as porn Oct 11 05 07:22 pm Link My question is can it pay $$$. Most of my previous work is fetish/underground related and it *seems* like if I'm willing to work for booze or free, there's plenty of work. How much paying work is out there in the fetish world? How I turn free work into paying work? Oct 11 05 07:28 pm Link Alley Z wrote: There is plenty. I am not saying you will get rich. You might do very well, you might not. You just have to market yourself right and work with the right people. There are people who hire fetish models for modeling all the time. Oct 11 05 07:32 pm Link Conventions and conferences pay Oct 11 05 07:32 pm Link Darque wrote: I have taken to showing new models links to example photographs of some of the more tame fetish photography styles so they can understand exactly what I have in mind. This works well especially if they are new. Most reply and say they can not wait to do it now and dress up in the sexy costumes , or do some glamour style smoking shots, etc etc and always thought that until now it was about whips, chains, bondage and pain. Oct 11 05 07:34 pm Link Glamour Boulevard wrote: I've done the same, as a result I've gotten models who were interested in doing my Sexy Deck Project Oct 11 05 07:36 pm Link whoopsi! I'm a photographer, not a model (no one would pay to see that - LOL). I've talked to magazines I've worked with on the fashion side (buying advertising), and most of them say that they have the 1 photo person on staff, or they pay something like $20 for a photo they use. Maybe I haven't made enough calls, but it seems like my pool is pretty shallow financially. Oct 11 05 07:44 pm Link Alley Z wrote: Being that you are a photographer, consider doing very artistic fetish photography and selling the prints. Make sure to look in your local area or within travelling distance where such prints can be sold, such as any fetish lifestyle get togethers. Oct 11 05 07:50 pm Link Alley Z wrote: It's all about supply and demand, and fetish being such an incredibly vast and rather limitless field of focus, you can make a shitload of money. You just need to supply your work to the right demands! :-) Oct 11 05 07:51 pm Link Alley Z wrote: Yup it's extremely shallow. but there is money in it (once in awhile), but you have to dig really hard to find it. Then it begs to question is it ultimately really worth it? Oct 11 05 07:56 pm Link Alley Z wrote: The people that I've heard making any consistent $$ in it have a web/internet presence. I'm not sure if this translates into they're shooting content or what but perhaps what you have to do is shoot Big Macs (product) by day, fetish for fun. Oct 11 05 08:09 pm Link  from "Real Fetish" copyright 2000 D. Brian Nelson There might be a general rule somewhere that says you shouldn't try to shoot fetish unless you're kinky. Two of the best and most famous fetish shooters in the world have told me that. Nevertheless I've shot it, sold it, had it published (mostly in Europe), gotten a pretty wide reputation as a fetish photographer and had a fun time doing it, despite being so vanilla I'm almost a Republican. The truth is, fetish, which is defined as something required for sexual release not normally associated with sex, isn't easy to appreciate for someone to whom feet are merely smelly appendages (sorry Collin) and corsets a very bad idea. These days fetish is usually more of a style statement rather than something that directly has to do with sexual excitement. It's trendy, a fashion, rather than a declaration that you need to be spanked to get off. As such it's gotten watered down to the point that even the aforementioned Republicans are playing. But it really isn't fetish unless it's necessary. -Don Oct 11 05 08:11 pm Link It does have a bad rap, but undeservedly so. There is an aura about fetish photography that makes some people go "ugh". Then there is the majority of us who look at it as a different, yet beautiful form of expression and art. As for it being a detriment to a career, it can go both ways. If you're going to want to be a beauty pageant winner, then maybe fetish isn't the way to go. Of course, we all remember what happenned to Vanessa Williams when she was Miss America and then had the title taken away. A bad thing? Not for her, apparently. Ask me to name five Miss Americas, and she'd probably be the only one who came to mind immediately. And she's certainly the most successful of any recent Miss Americas... Of course, I am not speaking from experience as what I do (Damsel-in-distress photography, ie. tied up ladies) is not really and truly what is defined as fetish photography. I do get lumped into the Fetish category (esp. at Other Model Places  ) but the only thing my photos have in common with fetish photos is that in some fetish photos, the models are restrained in some fashion. There is an overlap with the models, and this is a good thing as there are many great fetish models out there.Oct 11 05 08:36 pm Link What rap is it supposed to have? Oct 11 05 09:16 pm Link D Brian, I love that shot you posted. That is what I like about fetish, not the bastardization of it that is abundant these days. On a different note from a different post, when did working for booze get a bad rap? I think the type of fetish that D Brian posted is not 'frowned' upon. It is truly art, IMO. And, no, not because it is in B&W. It is striking and appealing to me. A woman with a ball gag in her mouth, kneeling in a pile of feces will not get you far. Sorry. When I think about images that degrage people like that, in the name of fetish and bondage, I always think about AlexW. He had some wonderful arguments against that type of work. I miss him and his work. Oct 11 05 09:23 pm Link Tracey Masterson wrote: Thanks Tracey. That was from a folio I shot several years ago called "Real Fetish." It included more piercings and suspensions, some whippings and other delights not intended to be observed. Oct 11 05 09:40 pm Link go after fetish models and they will let you in the world of fetish check into search engines and go through the sites.chase the girls....eventually they either get you a job or referr you to a job or do some for thier own site...then go from there Oct 12 05 04:33 am Link Yes Fetish does get a bad rap when it's a guy wearing diapers under his Business suit every day to work. Fetish also gets a bad rap when the secertary goes to the bosses apartment and whips him after worrk or during lunch. Fetish gets a bad rap when a woman who ONLY models swimsuits for 10 years and then looks to old for the fashion world and goes and sniffs some coke and gets caught. Only because she has a fetish for coke. Fetish gets a bad rap because alot of Dancers want Bigger then Much Bigger then Even Bigger Breast. and then Nip-tuck has to rescue her and put her on TV. because she has a fetish for bigger bras. It's not really the big breast she wants it's just she wants to test how much better bigger bras will hold then up. And yes fetish get a bad rap because No one person really know what fetish REALLY means. Oh wait Fetish means washing your hands to much. or checking your doors and windows 3 times before you leave the house. Or many you have a fetish of getting handcuffed by a cop so you commit crimes so you can feel the steel on your hands. hmmmmmmm So whats a fetish ? Oct 12 05 05:04 am Link If you're going to listen to people who give fetish imagery a "bad" rap, or the people that believe in such labels, you should probably be shooting [or posing for] something else. Oct 12 05 06:29 am Link Hmm...well I've been shooting 'fetish' long before it became a fashion statement. I shoot a lot of playparties, prodomme's, fetish models, and am in general in the scene. Yes. you can make a buck or two, depends on how and where you market it, like anything else in the photography business. Bad rep, yes I guess it was only done by "bad girls" back a decade or two ago, that has changed quite a bit. I know some of the most hardcore and beautiful fetish girls in NY and elsewhere; they won't shoot with a lot of 'vanilla' photographers because their 'sleazy' ( this is what I've been told : please hold your hate mail). Yes it's not a mainstream thing, and you can get into some physical and mental dark areas thats why communication between photographer and model is key. Fetish modeling and photography is a job folks: you set it, light it, shoot it. I've shot a lot of 'vanilla' models in their first fetish shoot with bondage and assorted clamps, clips , etc, without a complaint, and all have done return shoots. Photographers don't be a grabasser, or make off color comments. Models don't be a diva, or a slacker, just like any good working photo session. Paul Oct 12 05 06:54 am Link Melvin Moten Jr wrote: Right on target! Oct 12 05 07:03 am Link I have no problems at all with it. Not my bag to shoot but I do like to see somethings. I for one like a model dressed up as a nurse. And to each his own. bs  Oct 12 05 07:48 am Link Glamour Boulevard wrote: Newbies pretending and playing dress up is where I give it a "bad rap." Models that do this form well are those that have learned the craft of modeling and bring integrity to the imaging. Photographers encouraging this as the first step under the lights are guiding those with a cart in front of the horse mentality. Darque wrote: In my view this is some of the most serious imaging models and photographers can create...it should be approached that way. When they do it can be magic. When they don't it looks nothing more than silly. Oct 12 05 08:06 am Link The Don Mon wrote: Retrokitten.com is a good place for fetish-lite. Oct 12 05 08:51 am Link |
