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p51
Posts: 163
Olympia, Washington, US
Craig Thomson wrote:
Meet them for coffee or lunch and follow your heart. I've had worse gigs, honest. If you're not up to this, I know some that are.... Funny you'd write that just now. I JUST got another e-mail from the woman asking about taking portrait work of her in b/w.
I have been reading the post and taking to heart the ones that had legitimate points to make (some didn't, though). I guess I was thinking of this like:
Me standing at the bed while they boink each other stupid.
Well, I didn't really consider what else they might be open to. To be sure, I do not want to shoot a couple indoors, but, maybe making love by a waterfall at sunup?
Hmmm.
The wife would KILL me, but maybe that idea could have merits after all.
If it comes to anything, I'll post the results...
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JM Dean
Posts: 8931
Cary, North Carolina, US
p51 wrote:
Wow, I don't know what to more impressed with more; your comical attempt at pyschoanalysis; your horrendous grammar or your need to insult someone's work when your work doesn't show too much artistic merit itself. None of which were warranted. You CAN have an opinion without sounding like an ass and writing like one as well. Don't you just hate it when that shit happens 
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p51
Posts: 163
Olympia, Washington, US
Photographer
Craig Thomson
Posts: 13462
Tacoma, Washington, US
p51 wrote:
Funny you'd write that just now. I JUST got another e-mail from the woman asking about taking portrait work of her in b/w.
I have been reading the post and taking to heart the ones that had legitimate points to make (some didn't, though). I guess I was thinking of this like:
Me standing at the bed while they boink each other stupid.
Well, I didn't really consider what else they might be open to. To be sure, I do not want to shoot a couple indoors, but, maybe making love by a waterfall at sunup?
Hmmm.
The wife would KILL me, but maybe that idea could have merits after all.
If it comes to anything, I'll post the results... If you were able to meet before hand and discuss what would be expected from you as in TFCD, number of images, setting (subtle or explicit), lighting details and just how graphic their talking, I think that may put your mind at rest.
See if you can get a clear understanding of what part youâre expected to play as photographer. Do they want any artistic control of the editing of the images?
I canât remember the first time I shot a couple in the same manner, but I was able to look at it as it was just another gig.
**One more thing to consider is if your wife would kill you raiseâs a huge red flag. I'd say the answer is simple....Don't do it.
Edit: one thing that burns my ass is anyone that sneaks around behind the significant other's back.
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Rick Edwards
Posts: 6185
Wilmington, Delaware, US
I did a series on film about 2 years ago from week 7 through and including the birth at 5AM (can't babies come at a normal hour..lol) of my friend. She and her husband asked me before they told anyone else including their family that she was expecting. I was honored to do the series. We would shoot once a week when the sun was promising in the studio, no lights to worry about setting up. I'd bracket the roll and we'd usually be done in a half hour or so. Never did the same pose twice.
Now more to your original question, I was hired to shoot at an event in Philly at a place called Club Kama Sutra. Folks were having sex all night. Conceivably (pardon the pun), I photographed a conception. When I got home I told my wife, "Now I guess I've shot everything except death". Figuring I'd shot sex, I'd shot birth and loads of other stuff, the only thing left was to be a combat photographer and capture death,
C'est la Fotographie.
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p51
Posts: 163
Olympia, Washington, US
Rick Edwards wrote:
Figuring I'd shot sex, I'd shot birth and loads of other stuff, the only thing left was to be a combat photographer and capture death,
C'est la Fotographie. I for one hope you never get the chance. I don't mean that in a mean or cruel way, it's just that death, especially traumatic death, is NOT "artistic" in the slightest. It's just plain ugly.
I've seen young men die, even held one while he passed and couldn't do a damned thing about it. I've also had to go tell young wives their husbands werre never coming home (the worst was the one who yelled, "Why couldn't it have been YOU instead?!?").
If you never get the chance to shoot the final act of life, consider yourself blessed. Really.
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B R E E D L O V E
Posts: 8022
Forks, Washington, US
I would shoot them as long as the shots will be for private use only. I don't want my name to be associated with a porn site or anything.
Photographer
p51
Posts: 163
Olympia, Washington, US
Now, here's a couple of shots that I guess could be argued either way that they are artistic, along the lines of what I was asked to do? https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … c5528504af https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … c6689811ee I must admit I like these. I could see myself doing something of this nature if it felt right. Terry Breedlove wrote:
I would shoot them as long as the shots will be for private use only. I don't want my name to be associated with a porn site or anything. ABSOLUTELY!
It didn't occur to me tht this is what they wanted, but now you got me wondering...
How could I make sure this doesn't show up on some kind of porn site?
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D. Brian Nelson
Posts: 5477
Rapid City, South Dakota, US
I've been asked to shoot the sex act, and have. Didn't much like it. Kept thinking the guy's just gotta go... Cropped images on my erotic site - certainly not the best stuff I've done.
Back a few years the Democratic (OK, must have been the Republican) National Convention was out on this coast and I got three couples emailing, asking me. I asked for a bit more info each time, and each time got no response. Musta been delegates, I guess.
This is one of those things that fall into my "too hard" basket. While nothing is excluded from art, some things are just too damned hard to do right. Maybe someday I'll find an approach that works. I hope so.
-Don
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David Bickley
Posts: 192
Washington, District of Columbia, US
p51 wrote:
Wow, I don't know what to more impressed with more; your comical attempt at pyschoanalysis; your horrendous grammar or your need to insult someone's work when your work doesn't show too much artistic merit itself. None of which were warranted. You CAN have an opinion without sounding like an ass and writing like one as well. Let's address one thing at a time.
1.) Psychoanalysis is by it's very definition an analysis and diagnosis originated by Sigmund Freud. In this... free association, dream interpretation, and analysis of resistance and transference are used to explore repression and unconscious forces. Psychoanalysis also includes the concepts of infantile sexuality, resistance, transference, and division of the psyche into the id, ego, and superego. None of which are either attempted or even mentioned.
2.) If you are going to criticise someones grammar, you really should make sure your own is flawless. Also, as a note to you, English is my second language, so I think I'm doing rather well.
3.) A criticism on my work from you means basically nothing to me. My clients like my work enough to keep hiring me from across the country. They also have enough faith in my work that I get paid enough to only have to work about 4 days a month. Even more to the point, this site is not for much else other than the modeling industry. Why would I post anything that deviates from that market?
4.) I'm not going to justify the way I critisize, what I will tell you is that in the commercial art world that is how most people are. Get used to the fact that nobody cares about your feelings regarding your work. Go to LA or New York and see just how quickly you get thrown out the door at the agencies that get photographers work...or any other agency for that matter.
If you want respect, submit work that is more deserving of it...you call yourself a professional on your profile, yet you don't merit the title. So, go ahead and be mad that I'm cold and crass about your work, even degrade mine if you feel you have to. My life will go on unabated, and you can take comfort in the fact that you will always have your...whatever it is your website is about.
Now if you've made it this far in my post I suppose you deserve to read this as well. The fact that you found some work somewhat similar to what you were asked to do....and actually liked it, is a good step foreward. The original intent of my post was not to insult you or degrade you. Though it was taken that way. Understand that there is always a different way of seeing that can make the offensive beautiful.
D
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Rick Edwards
Posts: 6185
Wilmington, Delaware, US
p51 wrote:
I for one hope you never get the chance. I don't mean that in a mean or cruel way, it's just that death, especially traumatic death, is NOT "artistic" in the slightest. It's just plain ugly.
I've seen young men die, even held one while he passed and couldn't do a damned thing about it. I've also had to go tell young wives their husbands werre never coming home (the worst was the one who yelled, "Why couldn't it have been YOU instead?!?").
If you never get the chance to shoot the final act of life, consider yourself blessed. Really. It was more of a rhetorical statement
wouldn't really want to do it
it was in response to my wife asking, "Wasn't it weird taking pics of people having sex?"
anyhow....
Initially it was like animal planet
(Cue whispery, pretentious voice over announcer)
"The aging male lion circles to females of the pride, attempting to show his virility"
then I got all into f-stops and angles and cool shadows...you know...all that photo mumbo jumbo...lol
Model
Lerandia
Posts: 7
North Miami Beach, Florida, US
p51 wrote:
I just got the strangest e-mail ever from this site last night.
Someone who saw my portfolio here is a model not logged in as a model. She and her husband are looking to have a baby, and THEY WANT PHOTOS OF THE CONCEPTION!
Yes, that's right, they want someone to shoot them getting her pregnant!
Crap, what kind of nut wants something like THAT? My wife and I are also trying for a baby (for several months now), but the last thing I'd want is to know someone was photographing the conception! What would they do, haul THOSE photos out with the family albums???
What the hell is wrong with some people?
The strangest thing is they claim not have asked anyone else, that my nudes look, "Natural" and that's what they want.
I have responded to them that they should look elsewhere in MM, as someone would do it, but I have to draw the line somewhere...
(and before anyone asks, NO, I didn't keep thei e-mail address) LMAO Wow -wiping tears- that made my day. -Lerandia
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Kentsoul
Posts: 9739
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US
Jessica L wrote:
What if she doesn't conceive during the shoot? Will they want their money back? LOL
Peggy We'll just have to keep scheduling shoots until they get it right...I'd have no problem with that whatsoever.
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Monsante Bey
Posts: 2111
Columbus, Georgia, US
Sounds like they just wanted someone to shoot pics of their cheap attempt at doing a porno.
Photographer
Kentsoul
Posts: 9739
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US
Monsante Bey wrote:
Sounds like they just wanted someone to shoot pics of their cheap attempt at doing a porno. Fine by me...I can still make art of it regardeless of original intent.
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